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Derigin
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 11:03 pm 
 

or Vegan! ;)
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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 7:17 am 
 

At least they weren't vegetarian. :p If you're gonna cut animal-based foods out of your diet, either go vegan or stay a carnivore. Don't be a fence-sitter. :lol:

(also, huge LOL @ the description of Hardline, J.F.C.)

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 11:16 am 
 

Deleted Marplots. Nu-metal.
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Deleted ErdKabel. Nu-metal.
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Muhammadabbadabba
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 3:26 pm 
 

The band "White Diamond Death" seems extremely suspect. I still have work to do in detecting the rest of their discography (I may need assistance in this matter, because it'll difficult to sift through tons of NSBM bands), but if their "covers" are any indication, this outfit has taken songs from other bands and merely dubbed new vocals over the original tracks.

I can't vouch for the apparently original material, but all things considered, this is far too suspicious to slip by unnoticed.

"Legion Blanche (Legion 88 cover)" by Kolovrat:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnQziYNlItQ
"Legion Blanche (Legion 88 cover)" by "White Diamond Death":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9FAPy30Mq4

"Kipás Irão Pro Ar" by Stuka
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kifcao_RgOE
"Kipás Irão Pro Ar" by "White Diamond Death":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICfA6ov0yTw

Basically the same song with electronic drumming added over the original.


"Angel of Death (Slayer cover)" by "White Diamond Death":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIra2JfkVUI

"White Diamond Death"'s sound is also wildly inconsistent, suggesting they may have taken songs from numerous sources:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aqnddo_oCWI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seyJMCKMcds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GFHdPzBYEc
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tomcat_ha
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 25, 2015 5:43 am 
 

ive been listening to a bunch of light bearer records recently and i wonder if they should be on at all.
Stuff mostly strikes me as post-hardcore/neocrust than anything really metallic. Silver Tongue i am now 100% sure about not being a metal record. Not that sure about the older stuff though.

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Emptiness Cycle
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 25, 2015 5:45 am 
 

Muhammadabbadabba wrote:
The band "White Diamond Death" seems extremely suspect. I still have work to do in detecting the rest of their discography (I may need assistance in this matter, because it'll difficult to sift through tons of NSBM bands), but if their "covers" are any indication, this outfit has taken songs from other bands and merely dubbed new vocals over the original tracks.

I can't vouch for the apparently original material, but all things considered, this is far too suspicious to slip by unnoticed.

"Legion Blanche (Legion 88 cover)" by Kolovrat:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnQziYNlItQ
"Legion Blanche (Legion 88 cover)" by "White Diamond Death":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9FAPy30Mq4

"Kipás Irão Pro Ar" by Stuka
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kifcao_RgOE
"Kipás Irão Pro Ar" by "White Diamond Death":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICfA6ov0yTw

Basically the same song with electronic drumming added over the original.


"Angel of Death (Slayer cover)" by "White Diamond Death":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIra2JfkVUI

"White Diamond Death"'s sound is also wildly inconsistent, suggesting they may have taken songs from numerous sources:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aqnddo_oCWI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seyJMCKMcds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GFHdPzBYEc


Having about 7 of their releases, I disagree with WDD rather substantially. Yes, the covers are awfully done and dubbed, but that's what they are - they're backing tracks with his own vocals. This isn't uncommon in bedroom NSBM.

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Muhammadabbadabba
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 25, 2015 8:29 am 
 

To your knowledge, is WDD's original material authentically theirs?
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Emptiness Cycle
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 25, 2015 12:38 pm 
 

Yes, I believe it is.

I have a lot of friends in Brazil who know the guy and they also seem to think it's legitimate.

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Oxenkiller
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 26, 2015 3:12 am 
 

I couldnt help notice that Verbal Abuse are on the site. They are a great punk band, but I have always thought of them purely as a punk band. Not complaining, I like their music but, you know, they're punk.

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 26, 2015 2:47 pm 
 

Didn't listen, but it says "Hardcore (early), Thrash Metal (later)". So you're saying that even their later material isn't metal? Just checking.
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Oxenkiller
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 26, 2015 4:25 pm 
 

you guys might consider the later stuff marginally acceptable cross-over a la early D*R*I* or maybe the Rich Kids on LSD, I dunno, to me it is a fine line but still on the punk side of the line. your call though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEvE_dMNjks

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Helvede
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 26, 2015 7:24 pm 
 

I'm pretty sure they got in based on Red, White and Violent.

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 11:08 am 
 

Helvede wrote:
I'm pretty sure they got in based on Red, White and Violent.

Sounds like acceptable crossover thrash so far.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 9:29 am 
 

Deleted Revengeance from Canada. No valid releases proven, dubious submitter, mostly likely Myspace-only.
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Emptiness Cycle
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 10:17 am 
 

Azmodes wrote:
Deleted Revengeance from Canada. No valid releases proven, dubious submitter, mostly likely Myspace-only.


Thanks for dealing with this so promptly.

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EpicDismemberment
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 9:03 am 
 

G6PD from Thailand

Are they metal enough for this site?
They listed as Metalcore/Melodic Death Metal, Do they actually play Metalcore/Melodic Death Metal?
I'm not sure about them, any opinion?

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/G6PD/99841

Songs from Zero EP:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QN4N5M41eGo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnRpe4pmHEE
Past of Pieces Full: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3OVQAoc2iU
Grand Murder Full: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWiUfa0loeQ

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EpicDismemberment
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 9:11 am 
 

This one too. Annalynn from Thailand. Can you check them up?

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Annalynn/3540355178

A Year of Misery Full: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1XQntzL8Bs
Stare Down the Undefeated Full: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrD6V9PCt5U

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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 9:22 am 
 

What I heard from G6PD sounds OK, but this second band is seriously inundated with placid breakdowns that just sputter out.

That said, I'm not very good with genres, so I'm awaiting a second opinion on Annalynn.

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Helvede
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 1:30 pm 
 

Removed Sear (UK). Though it had ties with UK bands like Dominion, this was mostly in the atmospheric/electronic/trip hop-department, like the non-metal releases of bands like The Gathering and The Third and the Mortal.

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EpicDismemberment
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:02 am 
 

The Black Antler from United States listed as Black Metal/Hardcore, but I am not sure I hear any Black Metal influences on both EPs of them. Could you take a look at them?

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/The ... 3540390284

The Black Antler EP: http://theblackantler.com/album/the-black-antler
100 Wolves EP: http://theblackantler.com/album/100-wolves-ep

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:16 am 
 

This was added by a moderator, I'll ask her to drop by and comment. EDIT: As for my own thoughts, hm yeah, this is not really that overtly black metal. As I half-expected, it's like the now-popular mix of frantic dark hardcore/crust and metallic/sludge tendencies. It might be metal enough still, but the black metal part should probably be removed or rephrased.

Annalynn sounds too borderline. They will be deleted shortly.
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EpicDismemberment
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:56 am 
 

Oh OK, and thanks about the update on Annalynn.

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~Guest 152635
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:18 pm 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Grond/3540375500

Probably not metal, review says keyboards and drums:
http://atmospheric.pl/grond-the-mystery ... burial-00/

I think I submitted it based on this list which ended up not being very trustworthy. Even the description of "Heroic Fantasy Black Metal" is kinda iffy, anyway.

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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:45 am 
 

Burnt. Better safe than sorry.

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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:39 pm 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ivi ... 3540391243

Saw it, because it had been updated today. No download links anymore, but it is a digital only release. Bandcamp down, itunes down.
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:45 pm 
 

hmmm, the submission notes claim there were photos of CD copies on FB, but that page is gone as well(?). It was approved as non-digital, though.

Even so, the album was available on Bandcamp at some point and presumably for a certain period of time. We can't go around and delete bands whenever their digital distribution gets taken down (unless we're talking about some extremely short-lived cases); we'd be deleting and restoring stuff constantly. Not feasible and an absurd approach anyway. After all, we don't nuke bands whenever their CDs sell out, either.

EDIT: Oh wait, that was added by TSIR. The sub notes are trustworthy, then. :)
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TheStormIRide
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:49 pm 
 

oneyoudontknow wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ivil's_Pandemonium_Carnival/3540391243

Saw it, because it had been updated today. No download links anymore, but it is a digital only release. Bandcamp down, itunes down.


There was some confusion with the band being renamed. It was Ivil's Pandemonium Carnival when they initially released the album. Apparently, a few months (maybe weeks) later they changed the name and re-released the album under that name (whatever they changed it to). I'm trying to research it a bit now, but it seems that they've completed wiped the Ivil's P.C. off of official channels. There are a few random download blogs that still show it.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:55 pm 
 

What about the CDs you mention in the submission notes?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:55 pm 
 

It has almost the same tracklist as this, by the way:
http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Sa ... Man/490754


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 6:02 pm 
 

There was a physical CD available through the band's Facebook page at the time of release. It has the same tracklist as the Sauron album because it's the same band. The Sauron page shows that it was released in 2011 but it was added by a band member in 2015, after Ivil's Pandemonium Carnival changed their name back to Sauron.

My guess is that the band wanted to whitewash the Ivil's P.C. and just pretend it was initially released under the Sauron name.
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A little more info:
https://www.facebook.com/notes/sauron/u ... 0574043692

A post from the band stating that the album was recorded between 2009 - 2011 and distributed under the changed band name in 2015.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 6:20 pm 
 

that clears matters up quite well. :beer:
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oneyoudontknow wrote:
that clears matters up quite well. :beer:


Thanks for pointing out the issue in the first place. That was a freaking mess!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 1:45 pm 
 

Deleted Dos Malés/Dosmalés. This is not sludge, nor much metal in general. Mostly stoner rock with ultra-fuzzy distortion.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 8:01 am 
 

I would like you to check these two bands out, Eccentric Toilet and Solid Core, both from Thailand.

Eccentric Toilet
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ecc ... let/125529

All three songs from the demo, The Roar of Cerberus. Actually, it is not the valid demo, it is a compilation by the Banana Records label featuring three bands Cadaver Not Talk , Eccentric Toilet and Enemy.
Unheaven: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGXVC0HQFKs
Good Thing Before I Die: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ43SlgoC04
It's Too Late: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn8F1DSNNqk

Their probably latest single, Count to SIx (666): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIvQZV8TBHk

Solid Core
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Solid_Core/117194

Their full EP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FS81UeEVVO0

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 10:59 pm 
 

Cleaning up some of my submissions:

Vocivus
Only one demo and Side A is kinda metal at times, sorta black/doom riffs here and there, but it mostly trudges along rifflessly. Side B is completely ambient.
https://yadi.sk/d/k-UeF044Q9kJs

Resistance to Z.O.G.
Kinda in the same boat, first track isn't metal. Second track has a few moments of metal, but loses focus a lot.
https://yadi.sk/d/SWCFvRuWmMNJ3

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 11:17 pm 
 

Halloween wrote:
Cleaning up some of my submissions:

Downloading them now, will let you know soon.

Vocivus's additional notes wrote:
Features members of Tollund Men

Yeah, I'm not surprised that one's not completely metal. :lol:

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EDIT: Resistance to Z.O.G. are nuked into orbit. Weakest fucking resistance I've ever heard. :p Though I laughed at the mental image of somebody trying to headbang to amateur guitar twanging. :lol:

As for Vocivus... ehhh, I'm not 100% sure. The first track (which is longer) is borderline, and the last few minutes aren't really metallic, but the remainder of the track kinda strikes me as metallic enough. Just... very noisy, and the drums are overpowering the rest of the instruments. I'll ask the other mods to lend their thoughts.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 12:32 am 
 

Yeah, I wasn't really sure myself. I figured it might be enough when I first heard it, but I felt it might be better safe than sorry. I submitted it without samples so it might be good to evaluate it, in either case.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 5:02 pm 
 

Alhadis wrote:
Halloween wrote:
Cleaning up some of my submissions:

Downloading them now, will let you know soon.

Vocivus's additional notes wrote:
Features members of Tollund Men

Yeah, I'm not surprised that one's not completely metal. :lol:

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EDIT: Resistance to Z.O.G. are nuked into orbit. Weakest fucking resistance I've ever heard. :p Though I laughed at the mental image of somebody trying to headbang to amateur guitar twanging. :lol:

As for Vocivus... ehhh, I'm not 100% sure. The first track (which is longer) is borderline, and the last few minutes aren't really metallic, but the remainder of the track kinda strikes me as metallic enough. Just... very noisy, and the drums are overpowering the rest of the instruments. I'll ask the other mods to lend their thoughts.


With the exception of Blackmoon Warrior 88 and Comrade Borislav 88, the rest of the Nazi Propaganda bands should go. They're all noise / punk with the odd metal riff.

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