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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 11:39 am 
 

Deleted Dizabled. No releases.
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uglur
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 8:46 am 
 

Deleted Dunkelheit (Deu). Ambient.

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droneriot
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Weren't they deleted once before?
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Antioch
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 8:44 pm 
 

Based on which album was this labeled Thrash Metal?
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Suiciety/3540288915
http://suicietyoz.bandcamp.com/
All I hear is Grunge with heavy metal leanings. Almost discardable.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 3:38 pm 
 

What about S.C.E.P.T.R.E.? It says that is a different band from Agent Metal, but I believe that it is just a joke band that should be merged with AM. There is not even enough information to tell if that band is finnish and their release is in AM's official site. It was clearly a joke behind all those strange behaviours and "rivalties" of Agent Metal members:

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/S.C ... R.E./48815
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Agent_Metal/30073

MA is not a battle field between two imaginary agencies. sceptre was approved basing on what?

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OpsiusCato
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 3:54 pm 
 

MDL666 wrote:
What about S.C.E.P.T.R.E.? It says that is a different band from Agent Metal, but I believe that it is just a joke band that should be merged with AM. There is not even enough information to tell if that band is finnish and their release is in AM's official site. It was clearly a joke behind all those strange behaviours and "rivalties" of Agent Metal members:

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/S.C ... R.E./48815
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Agent_Metal/30073

MA is not a battle field between two imaginary agencies. sceptre was approved basing on what?

It is avaliable through an official source. The band is a joke spinoff of a valid band with valid distribution. And this joke spinoff band has a release. It's both digital and physical. So why wouldn't it be added?

And, well, dunno how much do you know about Agent Metal, but there's no "strange behaviours and rivalties" among the band members.
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Deleted Headcat. Not metal, cover band, not a valid side-project.
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Deleted the Austrian bands Ballroom Blitz and Be Cool. Both are glam/hard rock.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 8:50 pm 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Alk ... 3540261522 is one of the only bands I've come across with no release, but no additional notes info either. V1 shows that there was a demo attached, but the update history says that Diamhea deleted it in March. Does that mean the release didn't exist? Is there any valid release at all?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 6:30 am 
 

There was probably some (presumably) valid deletion report filed for the only release and Diamhea didn't realise that it was the only release entered. Happened to me a few times. I've asked him and Piotr to comment.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 10:39 am 
 

I remember that band but don't rememeber any details.
Later I will ask someone about Alkoholika.

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Tlacaxipehualiztli
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 2:55 am 
 

I found one link (written in Polish) about this aforementioned demo entitled Alcoholic Suicide (2007). This info can be added to the band's profile I guess.

http://poliszmetaltop.blogspot.com/2014 ... olica.html

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2015 2:09 pm 
 

Just saw that band Jeddah in the reviews. One song as a B-side to a cover is enough?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2015 6:26 pm 
 

droneriot wrote:
Just saw that band Jeddah in the reviews. One song as a B-side to a cover is enough?


Yes. It's a bit of a grey area, but it is, after all, a metal release. NWOBHM stuff in general is noteworthy, and the guidelines have been shaped, to an extent, to catalogue this kind of thing.

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 12:38 pm 
 

Deleted Megatron from Singapore. Actually a misspelled duplicate of Negatron from the Philippines.

Also Distorted Picture. Predominantly nu-metal/rapcore.
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Dr_Keloid
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 5:16 am 
 

The sole Thynn Ice album was only a test press. Unsure if this counts as a valid release on MA.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 2:34 pm 
 

Dr_Keloid wrote:
The sole Thynn Ice album was only a test press. Unsure if this counts as a valid release on MA.


We'd likely include it if it was a handful of demo tapes that got out to the public, and considering this is a complete, professionally produced album that has made its way out, it belongs IMO.

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Dr_Keloid
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 4:48 am 
 

Zodijackyl wrote:
Dr_Keloid wrote:
The sole Thynn Ice album was only a test press. Unsure if this counts as a valid release on MA.

We'd likely include it if it was a handful of demo tapes that got out to the public, and considering this is a complete, professionally produced album that has made its way out, it belongs IMO.

Thanks. Don't really want to see it removed, just trying to be clear about which micro-run issues make it on here & which don't (e.g. Hades [ESP]).

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oneyoudontknow wrote:
Metalmemole wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Adonai_Melech/125076
There are absolutely no evidences about the existence of this band, even less of their releases.
They appear only in a list of black metal bands which has been copied/pasted in multiple sites (originally taken from metal-archives itself, http://z3.invisionfree.com/TheUnholyAlliance/ar/t2.htm ), but no music, no album, no site, no pics, no reviews... NOTHING :D

I had been in touch with the band -- or to be more precise with a member of this -- back then and they had promised to send me some stuff over; something that never actually happened. Further inquiries into this band remained unanswered.

I also never received the demo of the other band ...


Received word that the band existed. Soft confirmation that the demo existed, but this is enough to uphold the status quo considering this was from someone a few steps removed from the band.

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Antioch
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 4:38 pm 
 

None of my business, I know, but both Belchior and Sarastus have been submitted twice. I've seen cases, especially when the queue is this long, where a band gets accepted twice within fifteen minutes. Just trying to save you time.
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It's cool - I've rejected one for each as a dupe.
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You're the man! :)
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Deleted Head Control System. Predominantly rock.
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Antioch wrote:
Based on which album was this labeled Thrash Metal?
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Suiciety/3540288915
http://suicietyoz.bandcamp.com/
All I hear is Grunge with heavy metal leanings. Almost discardable.


This needs to be reassessed. I don't feel comfortable handling it.
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Deleted Signs of Decay. Most probably a Myspace-only band.
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Deleted Suiciety from Aussieland. Mostly grunge.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 7:26 am 
 

I think Maigra proved themselves to be worth posted on EM.
It as meshuggah-riffs driven metal with. Really high quality music and musicianship.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysNaLl1hEug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-g1ehrkwoo

I wonder why it has been removed in a first place..

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Azmodes
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pepson wrote:
I think Maigra proved themselves to be worth posted on EM.
It as meshuggah-riffs driven metal with. Really high quality music and musicianship.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysNaLl1hEug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-g1ehrkwoo

I wonder why it has been removed in a first place..

You're looking for this thread: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=64985
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How about this band http://www.metal-archives.com/band/view/id/33993

It says they released a demo but there's nothing under the discography tab

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 5:58 am 
 

Check the additional notes.

EDIT: err, I misread that a bit. Well, the release hasn't been added because some required pieces of information are missing. Probably the tracklist. But it's known that it existed and was distributed. That happens sometimes.
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http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Tor ... ab_members

Apparently, they don't use real instruments?
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That is not an issue.
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This must have been up a few times, so please bear over with the laziness of not reading the full 70 pages first.

Sunn O))). Drone is out as per the rules. Are they here because drone-with-this-level-of-distortion is within the "metal" genre according to Metal Archives (that is a definition I often fail to understand), or merely because they are acceptable per the metal scene criterion?

That is: should similar-sounding bands which have nothing to do with the metal scene pass?

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Azmodes wrote:
That is not an issue.


It's not? I seem to recall in the V1 days that you guys would reject a band if the guitar was a loop or computer-programmed track instead of a real guitar. Did that change?
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Okay, so will I be accused of micromodding if I state the obvious and say people who don't know the difference between "drone" and "drone/doom metal" should not waste space in this thread? Maybe the rules should make that clearer, since some people are just...

Speaking of the rules and confusing genres with similar names, and I asked this before, but when will the rules stop saying industrial is out, but then only name industrial rock bands, which have nothing in common with industrial itself except a related genre name?
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MetalCuresHeadaches wrote:
Azmodes wrote:
That is not an issue.


It's not? I seem to recall in the V1 days that you guys would reject a band if the guitar was a loop or computer-programmed track instead of a real guitar. Did that change?

I guess? To my knowledge, something being synthesised is not automatically grounds for rejection (a stance I myself agree with). It's not so much about the means through which it is achieved, but if it's structurally based on metal riffs. I dimly remember Morrigan herself conceding something to that effect (sorry if I'm mistaken). I see this assumption about programmed guitars being a no-no pop up again and again, so apparently there's gotta be some source for it; might be an interpretation enforced by an older cadre of moderators that I don't think applies (or should apply) anymore. It's certainly a thorny issue, especially when it comes to programmed string sounds so shitty or far removed from the prototypical distorted electric guitar that one starts to question whether rock/metal music is that alienable from guitar tone after all. But those are extremes and there are many programmed bands out there with "reasonable" tones or even something the unfamiliar ear might not notice is synthetic. Bottomline, it's not that black-and-white.

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Okay, so will I be accused of micromodding if I state the obvious and say people who don't know the difference between "drone" and "drone/doom metal" should not waste space in this thread? Maybe the rules should make that clearer, since some people are just...

Speaking of the rules and confusing genres with similar names, and I asked this before, but when will the rules stop saying industrial is out, but then only name industrial rock bands, which have nothing in common with industrial itself except a related genre name?

Those two points seem fair. I'll make a note to add them to the upcoming rules update.
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Azmodes wrote:
I see this assumption about programmed guitars being a no-no pop up again and again, so apparently there's gotta be some source for it


I searched a few times over lunch, and while I didn't find anything clearing stating "Guitars must be real", but there were a few entries such as viewtopic.php?f=3&t=65721&p=1571617&hilit=programmed+Guitar#p1571617 giving the impression that it wasn't highly regarded. In a shocking twist, Witcher was often the staff member making the statement.
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MetalCuresHeadaches wrote:
(..)In a shocking twist, Witcher was often the staff member making the statement.
Witcher is adorable.
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MetalCuresHeadaches wrote:
Azmodes wrote:
I see this assumption about programmed guitars being a no-no pop up again and again, so apparently there's gotta be some source for it


I searched a few times over lunch, and while I didn't find anything clearing stating "Guitars must be real", but there were a few entries such as viewtopic.php?f=3&t=65721&p=1571617&hilit=programmed+Guitar#p1571617 giving the impression that it wasn't highly regarded. In a shocking twist, Witcher was often the staff member making the statement.

I see. Well, I suppose it isn't something that makes moderators jump around in ecstatic joy whenever they come across it in the queue, but it shouldn't be treated as an automatic deal breaker. Also, Witcher.
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droneriot wrote:
Okay, so will I be accused of micromodding if I state the obvious and say people who don't know the difference between "drone" and "drone/doom metal" should not waste space in this thread? Maybe the rules should make that clearer, since some people are just...

Speaking of the rules and confusing genres with similar names, and I asked this before, but when will the rules stop saying industrial is out, but then only name industrial rock bands, which have nothing in common with industrial itself except a related genre name?



Haha. Well Captain Obvious, how were you able to write and post the latter paragraph without realizing that you took up precisely the point you first were trying to shut up?

To me it is obvious that Sunn O))) is metal; furthermore it is obvious that Tool is metal, and that Rammstein is metal. Now one can easily (or maybe impossibly, depending on what/who to substitute in for one', YMMV) infer that if I want to get a grasp on the Metal Archives' taxonomy, then I cannot apply mine.

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