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GraveWish
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 11:44 am 
 

The band Poropetra should be removed. It's not a metal band and does not fit under the side project rule.

And again,

The band Plasma Pool should be removed. It's not a metal band and does not fit under the side project rule.

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Fulgurius
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:45 pm 
 

Removed Balam and Aïnsoph - the two projects of French label Blême Euryale, both were dark ambient, not metal.

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sathanic666
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:49 pm 
 

Why The Last Days has been accepted? If the EP is not metal.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 4:36 am 
 

sathanic666 wrote:
Why The Last Days has been accepted? If the EP is not metal.

Present samples outside of myspace to back it up.

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GraveWish
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:42 am 
 

The Last Days - Post-Rock borderline metal in some tracks, the songs on the band's myspace are the most metallic tracks.

EP: http://hotfile.com/dl/63395067/66611c3/ ... k.rar.html

What about Poropetra and Plasma Pool ?

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:25 am 
 

Plasma Pool was deleted.

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GraveWish
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:46 am 
 

Poropetra should be deleted too, not a metal band projet of Juha Jyrkäs who is not involved in any metal project + no worldwide distribution I don't see any reason for not deleting that band.

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droneriot
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 8:07 am 
 

Just out of curiousity, is there any particular reason why you never provide any links?
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GraveWish
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 8:27 am 
 

There is nothing to prove in this case it's clear the band is not metal why do you need links???

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Klaagzang
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:05 am 
 

http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540322161

The band doesn't consider the promo to be an official release, the tracks on the tape are regarded as adv. tracks for the upcoming demo.

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droneriot
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:34 am 
 

GraveWish wrote:
There is nothing to prove in this case it's clear the band is not metal why do you need links???

Links to the band page so the mods don't have to search for themselves. It's a commonly accepted courtesy, that's all.
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Napero
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:43 am 
 

Klaagzang wrote:
http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540322161

The band doesn't consider the promo to be an official release, the tracks on the tape are regarded as adv. tracks for the upcoming demo.

Please include the band names in this kind of posts, for archival purposes. A user can't search a post like this.

Thank you.
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Klaagzang
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:52 pm 
 

Napero wrote:
Klaagzang wrote:
http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540322161

The band doesn't consider the promo to be an official release, the tracks on the tape are regarded as adv. tracks for the upcoming demo.

Please include the band names in this kind of posts, for archival purposes. A user can't search a post like this.

Thank you.


Check the subject

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:32 pm 
 

GraveWish wrote:
The Last Days - Post-Rock borderline metal in some tracks, the songs on the band's myspace are the most metallic tracks.

EP: http://hotfile.com/dl/63395067/66611c3/ ... k.rar.html

What about Poropetra and Plasma Pool ?

Thanks for samples - deleted, there is a brief metal part in only one song, the rest is shoegaze.

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GraveWish
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:57 pm 
 

Sounds of Vengence should be removed already in the archives as Sounds of VengeAnce, sorry.

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~Guest 152635
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:06 am 
 

The Hidden (Nld): http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=49337

This is not metal.. I'm not sure what to call it other than noise:

(Edit: Link removed)


Last edited by ~Guest 152635 on Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:58 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Tot_alVital
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 2:28 am 
 

Witcher wrote:
GraveWish wrote:
The Last Days - Post-Rock borderline metal in some tracks, the songs on the band's myspace are the most metallic tracks.

EP: http://hotfile.com/dl/63395067/66611c3/ ... k.rar.html

What about Poropetra and Plasma Pool ?

Thanks for samples - deleted, there is a brief metal part in only one song, the rest is shoegaze.


And that's not enough?

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GVOLTT
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:48 am 
 

Tot_alVital wrote:
Witcher wrote:
GraveWish wrote:
The Last Days - Post-Rock borderline metal in some tracks, the songs on the band's myspace are the most metallic tracks.

EP: http://hotfile.com/dl/63395067/66611c3/ ... k.rar.html

What about Poropetra and Plasma Pool ?

Thanks for samples - deleted, there is a brief metal part in only one song, the rest is shoegaze.


And that's not enough?

Of course not. A band has to have a release that is mostly (if not completely) metal to be here. Plenty of non-metal bands have short sections of what can be called metal in their songs, but that doesn't make the band metal by any means.
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Tot_alVital
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:05 am 
 

GVOLTT wrote:
Tot_alVital wrote:
Witcher wrote:
GraveWish wrote:
The Last Days - Post-Rock borderline metal in some tracks, the songs on the band's myspace are the most metallic tracks.

EP: http://hotfile.com/dl/63395067/66611c3/ ... k.rar.html

What about Poropetra and Plasma Pool ?

Thanks for samples - deleted, there is a brief metal part in only one song, the rest is shoegaze.


And that's not enough?

Of course not. A band has to have a release that is mostly (if not completely) metal to be here. Plenty of non-metal bands have short sections of what can be called metal in their songs, but that doesn't make the band metal by any means.

Well, The Last Days started as a Raw Black Metal Project, and they changed their style with the time. The EP was their first release so I can't say anything. It's Ok and sorry for the mistake I did.

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~Guest 152635
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:53 pm 
 

Nihilum (Swe) : http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540322370

The genre tag is not true. This is fully dark ambient/piano music:

Dead and Forgotten:

The Faint Hour:

Utopia Opened...:

Edit (Removed links) Thanks!

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~Guest 152635
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:39 pm 
 

More by the same user:

Seelenpfade: http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540320582

The submitter lied on the rejected bands thread that the demo was black metal. http://www.metal-archives.com/board/vie ... de#1760342

If you listen to those tracks on their myspace they are ambient.

The split is closer to metal but not really, may need closer inspection:
Dort fliegt die Zeit hinter den Horizont (on the myspace as well)


Hörgr: http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540322266

6-way split is only physical release: sms025 leichenstätte/nostalgia/grimlair/todessucht/moloch/hörgr -suicide reflections
http://www.myspace.com/selfmutilationservices/blog


Starlit: http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540322363
Not really metal, I submitted it once and:

Sorry UndeadIdiot, Encyclopaedia Metallum was forced to reject your submission for the band Starlit (Sweden), for the following reason:

Not metal; does not belong.

Full release (It is like Lustre without metal parts):
(Edit: link removed)


Introversion: http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540321448
Tape is not out yet (according to myspace blog and label says nothing about it), the additional notes say "CD is limited to 11 copies.NOT FOR SALE!" Either way.. not really metal (Only samples I could find):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f65MAuXWlkw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H8MlriV ... re=related


Abesse2/084: http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540322133
One song from the entire album is anywhere close to metal:
(Edit: link removed)

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GraveWish
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:07 pm 
 

Hello,

Please take this seriously. I am a little bit confused here, I suppose MA's rules apply on all the bands already added to the database (except Mortiis and co). Assuming this is correct, I would like to know if there is any specific reason that this band: http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=5108 is on the archives? Normally, It should be deleted. I don't suppose this is because Andrea used to be married to Samoth.
And about this band: http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=49393 why it wont get deleted? I don't see any special reason for keeping the band in the archives.

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Tot_alVital
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:11 am 
 

UndeadIdiot wrote:
More by the same user:

Seelenpfade: http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540320582

The submitter lied on the rejected bands thread that the demo was black metal. http://www.metal-archives.com/board/vie ... de#1760342

If you listen to those tracks on their myspace they are ambient.

The split is closer to metal but not really, may need closer inspection:
Dort fliegt die Zeit hinter den Horizont (on the myspace as well)


Hörgr: http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540322266

6-way split is only physical release: sms025 leichenstätte/nostalgia/grimlair/todessucht/moloch/hörgr -suicide reflections
http://www.myspace.com/selfmutilationservices/blog


Starlit: http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540322363
Not really metal, I submitted it once and:

Sorry UndeadIdiot, Encyclopaedia Metallum was forced to reject your submission for the band Starlit (Sweden), for the following reason:

Not metal; does not belong.

Full release (It is like Lustre without metal parts):
(Edit: link removed)


Introversion: http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540321448
Tape is not out yet (according to myspace blog and label says nothing about it), the additional notes say "CD is limited to 11 copies.NOT FOR SALE!" Either way.. not really metal (Only samples I could find):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f65MAuXWlkw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H8MlriV ... re=related


Abesse2/084: http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540322133
One song from the entire album is anywhere close to metal:
(Edit: link removed)

Seelenpfade: No I've not lied. There was as genre BM/Ambient. The Split with Nachtalb was BM, the appearance on the sampler is BM. So dont tell things you dont know about anything.

Hörgr:
There are also a lot of bands they have only appearance on one split. So I dont understand your problem.

Introversion:
These are example which dont reflects the work of the band. Their demo is Metal as well. Future releases will be much harder and more BM. The 11 copies are released by the band itself and they are only gave to closer friends and 3 interested people. The note "not for sale" does mean this is not to sale for another persons. The persons were choosed by the band.

UndeadIdiot, Living Idiot.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:28 am 
 

Six way split is not allowed. Read the guidelines.

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GraveWish
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:22 am 
 

Introversion http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540321448 should be deleted, the album released in 11 copies has 4 tracks those tracks from youtube are not metal they are included in the album so AT LEAST 50% of the album is not metal and there is no proof that even the 2 remaining tracks are metal! Beside the genre tag is completely wrong I don't hear any post-rock mainly ambient!

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Tot_alVital
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:06 am 
 

GraveWish wrote:
Introversion http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540321448 should be deleted, the album released in 11 copies has 4 tracks those tracks from youtube are not metal they are included in the album so AT LEAST 50% of the album is not metal and there is no proof that even the 2 remaining tracks are metal! Beside the genre tag is completely wrong I don't hear any post-rock mainly ambient!

Well, if you see Introversion not as Metal, delete it. Finally its not important. I tried to update from Post-Rock to Minimalistic but no one has shown a reaction. Fuck off.

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Oxenkiller
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:17 pm 
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JblFx1aXpeU

Torsofuck...

C'mon, REALLY?

Song is called "Raped by elephants" as if it matters; they all have titles like that and all sound about like you'd expect a song called "Raped By Elephants" to sound like.

I mean, I can understand that gore grind may have originally been influenced by death metal way back in the day but this type of excrement has evolved way beyond (and below) any concept of what metal is supposed to be. Ah well, it's your call.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 3:45 am 
 

Oxenkiller wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JblFx1aXpeU

Torsofuck...

C'mon, REALLY?

Song is called "Raped by elephants" as if it matters; they all have titles like that and all sound about like you'd expect a song called "Raped By Elephants" to sound like.

I mean, I can understand that gore grind may have originally been influenced by death metal way back in the day but this type of excrement has evolved way beyond (and below) any concept of what metal is supposed to be. Ah well, it's your call.



The band is death metal based enough and will not be deleted just because you do not like that. Besides that, why do you think the song titles matter?

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 3:48 am 
 

metalencyklopedia.blogspot
I was told that most bands from exotic countries listed there do not have physical releases, so I will delete most of them.

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Fulgurius
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 6:07 am 
 

Witcher wrote:
metalencyklopedia.blogspot
I was told that most bands from exotic countries listed there do not have physical releases, so I will delete most of them.

For the record - yesterday I was going to delete the band Inferno XIII that was originally accepted based on that blog without any additional links, and I saw the album for download everywhere, but then I found mentioning on one forum that there was also CD version available. Another band from Kazakhstan that was added yesterday - Avallon - also has physical release. But yes, the other bands look suspicious, so I wouldn't trust that source. For example, I doubt that the band Equinox from Kyrgyzstan has released anything, so you were right when you deleted them.

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GraveWish
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:54 am 
 

Other bands added based on metalencyklopedia.blogspot that should, for sure, be deleted:

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540322432 (live demo???)
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540322443 (online release)
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540322445 (online release)
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540322447 (online release)
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540322455 (online release)
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540321856 (online release)
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540321823 (online release)
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540321825 (online release)


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Evenfiel
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 9:30 am 
 

GraveWish wrote:
And about this band: http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=49393 why it wont get deleted? I don't see any special reason for keeping the band in the archives.

Maybe because it's a side-project?

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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 9:37 am 
 

Evenfiel wrote:
GraveWish wrote:
And about this band: http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=49393 why it wont get deleted? I don't see any special reason for keeping the band in the archives.

Maybe because it's a side-project?


I think what he meant was that it's not a side-project that's on a label with worldwide distribution. Unless they were in the past, but they've now gone independent. Is that still allowed?

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GraveWish
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 9:37 am 
 

Evenfiel wrote:
GraveWish wrote:
And about this band: http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=49393 why it wont get deleted? I don't see any special reason for keeping the band in the archives.

Maybe because it's a side-project?


No it's not, this is a project of Juha Jyrkäs who is not involved in any metal band, he was once a guest for Korpiklaani that's all, beside the EP and the album was released via Rautajouhi this is for sure not a worldwide distribution and the band is currently independent. So I don't think it should be on MA, no reason for that.

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Evenfiel
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:59 am 
 

GraveWish wrote:
No it's not, this is a project of Juha Jyrkäs who is not involved in any metal band, he was once a guest for Korpiklaani that's all, beside the EP and the album was released via Rautajouhi this is for sure not a worldwide distribution and the band is currently independent. So I don't think it should be on MA, no reason for that.

Jaakko Lemmetty is involved with the band since the beginning, so that's enough to be considered a Korpiklaani side project.

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GraveWish
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 12:22 pm 
 

Evenfiel wrote:
GraveWish wrote:
No it's not, this is a project of Juha Jyrkäs who is not involved in any metal band, he was once a guest for Korpiklaani that's all, beside the EP and the album was released via Rautajouhi this is for sure not a worldwide distribution and the band is currently independent. So I don't think it should be on MA, no reason for that.

Jaakko Lemmetty is involved with the band since the beginning, so that's enough to be considered a Korpiklaani side project.


Okey, so you are saying if X is a member of metal band A and X is active in the side-project B since the beginning, then the side-project B will get added to MA although the side-project B is not formed by X but by Y.
If this is the case then personally I know a list of such non-metal bands, that I don't like to add for sure!
In all cases Rautajouhi is far for being a worldwide distribution, basic point in MA's side-project rule, I suppose this should be enough to remove the band Poropetra.

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GraveWish
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 8:20 am 
 

More to be removed (metalencyklopedia.blogspot):

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540321756

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Jakko
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:10 am 
 

Remove "Smeell of Destruction" added today

Already added as Smell of Destruction

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540301771

Anyway right name is Smeell of Destruction so it should be changed on this 1st created page

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Switch_Breaker
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 4:06 am 
 

Why does Killswitch Engage have a page.

I'm a fan, but they aren't metal.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 4:28 am 
 

Switch_Breaker wrote:
Why does Killswitch Engage have a page.

I'm a fan, but they aren't metal.

We consider them to be enough metal based.

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