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Opus
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:43 am 
 

HOT_DOG_DAY_89 wrote:
Hardcore Superstar is straight up rock on the earlier albums, but I hear a lot of heavy metal on some of the later albums.

Could you name some songs by them that are metal?
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HOT_DOG_DAY_89
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 5:47 pm 
 

I'm listening Beg for It from the album with same name and it sounds pretty straightforward metal, so that's at least one metal song. I picked it because that's the album that came out the year before they got accepted. I know bands aren't accepted based on a single song, but it answered your question. I could go and listen to all the songs and figure out what is and isn't metal on that album and the others, but that's really not my job since I don't work for the site. It's all up to the mods. I just wanted to point out that there is metal on some of their stuff and they probably belong based one or two albums.

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~Guest 152635
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 12:45 pm 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Mou ... 3540296615

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rasCYSGzXbI

Not metal

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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 3:54 pm 
 

Deleted Sadist Rage, incomplete duplicate of:

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Sad ... 3540335215

EDIT: Deleted MournLord. Summoning worship without the riffs.
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Alhadis
Madder Max

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 6:45 pm 
 

Deleted Onkunde (Netherlands). Harsh noise/power electronics - only one track in the band's discography features any metal.

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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 2:38 pm 
 

Deleted Gnosis (US) - no valid release as of right now.
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 3:49 pm 
 

Opus wrote:
Hardcore Superstar is in the archives?!
Hardcore Superstar?!
They are as metal as The Hellacopters or Aerosmith. Ie not metal at all. Quite a bit of rock 'n roll but no metal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8Cuqo45r-M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRJtSNUDL14

So after giving their discography an aural pat-down (cf. the ocular variety), I can wholeheartedly agree with this. Their early albums are 100% hard rock. Their more recent albums do get heavier, with chunkier riffing, but it's basically loud sleaze rock. The focus keeps returning to rock choruses and riffs. Deleted.
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0th
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 10:07 am 
 

Looks like the band Sweet Revenge (http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Swe ... nge/118883) is ex-Xentrix (http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Xentrix/746), they share the same demos:
http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Sw ... emo/186316
http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Xe ... Demo/31612
Source: http://www.metal-archives.com/report/vi ... 6/show/all

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Opus
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 12:35 pm 
 

Azmodes wrote:
Opus wrote:
Hardcore Superstar is in the archives?!
Deleted.

Thank you! I am at peace with the universe again.
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Derigin
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:16 pm 
 

Deleted "Influence." A successor band to "The Misunderstood" that was included erroneously as NWOBHM. Turns out it's just rock. FSM, Diamhea, OP agree.

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Opus
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:27 pm 
 

HOT_DOG_DAY_89 wrote:
I'm listening Beg for It ... sounds pretty straightforward metal,

0:16 to 0:55 could be part of a metal song. Some sort of stoner/groove metal song. Then comes the chorus, which is a rock chorus. So this is a rock song with some heavy riffs. The intentions of the song was never to be metal.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2014 10:02 am 
 

BlackenedZeroth wrote:

Any mod?

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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:16 pm 
 

Yes, that seems to be the case.
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 6:48 am 
 

Deleted Earacle. Turns out the demo-CD was only sent to zines/labels.

Also these, all of which failed to meet our criteria for valid digital releases (primarily length-wise):
BioHate
Rattler
Morzh
Dagmathe
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PDS
The Folk One

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 4:44 am 
 

Deleted Höyry-Kone. Symphonic/Classical/Avant-Garde Prog Rock.
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~Guest 152635
Metalhead

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 11:31 pm 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Landscape/22409

https://yadi.sk/d/3QF7FhIybktjt
https://yadi.sk/d/s6t7T-aNbkuLC
https://yadi.sk/d/QMI7Hgpibkuqj
https://www.sendspace.com/file/sk8udz

Not metal. The first demo has kind of a buzz going on, but it's not riffs. The last release has it too on one track, but again not metal. The other two demos are completely non-metal.

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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 3:33 am 
 

Nuked.
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Worthless_Dream
Metal newbie

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 5:35 am 
 

Worthless_Dream wrote:
You guys might wanna look into Cold Body Radiation:
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Col ... 3540310613

The Great White Emptiness: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4cZmaS ... B8B97A8C53
Deer Twillight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-bNFYNaQgk
A Clear Path: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUmMXgLMnSY

I don't hear any metal there, some harsh vocals on the first 2 albums and a couple of faster parts here and there.


Any word on this?

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asphaalanx
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 6:31 am 
 

BlackenedZeroth wrote:


Could be a possibility that that demo for Sweet Revenge was mistakenly attributed to a different band of the same name.

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MetalCuresHeadaches
Metalhead

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 3:32 pm 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Anv ... 3540284868

One rehearsal release, 11 copies on tape. No mention anywhere of number of tracks or runtime.

Also, someone is unhappy over in this report
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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 6:38 pm 
 

Myself, iamntbatman, and I believe derigin deemed that band unacceptable when it was originally submitted last week. Somehow I must have forgotten to add a blacklist note and someone took advantage.
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 2:26 pm 
 

Deleted Tempesta from Switzerland. Listed as "Melodic Heavy/Thrash Metal", which is absolutely laughable. It's groovy hard rock, the newer output not too dissimilar from Nickelback. There might be a couple of closed causal domains out there in the depths of the multiverse where this is genuinely metal, perhaps even thrash, but thankfully we are not living in such a rare cosmic jewel.
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~Guest 152635
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 7:23 pm 
 

Adhur:
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Adhur/3217

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bPNPzeYrOk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mxlq7OGuQV4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2utw1_-eqR8

Akelarreko Batzarra is the only semi-metal track. It's kind of riffy at times, but overall it's just wanky guitars behind synths, drums, and bm vocals.


Shrine:
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Shrine/21209

Only track I can find:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klubR4XEUJY

Reviews that say it's not metal:
http://xantropophobia.blogspot.com/2011 ... -1997.html
http://portal.xtreemmusic.com/shrine-sa ... holy-soul/

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m4rowak
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 1:37 am 
 

PDS wrote:
nuked: Thousand Leaves. Took some time checking it out, all Touhou stuff, not one original album. Sent back to Japan.


Am I missing something, or is there some bigoted rule against Touhou metal? Thousand Leaves is a neoclassical/power/speed/melodic death metal band. Last time I checked, those are METAL genres... and this is the METAL Archives. I don't see why it was okay to completely remove this band from the Metal Archives. It's not like it's J-rock or electronic or something NOT METAL. Thousand Leaves is just as metal as any other neoclassical power metal band.... e.g. GALNERYUS.

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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 1:58 am 
 

m4rowak wrote:
PDS wrote:
nuked: Thousand Leaves. Took some time checking it out, all Touhou stuff, not one original album. Sent back to Japan.


Am I missing something, or is there some bigoted rule against Touhou metal? Thousand Leaves is a neoclassical/power/speed/melodic death metal band. Last time I checked, those are METAL genres... and this is the METAL Archives. I don't see why it was okay to completely remove this band from the Metal Archives. It's not like it's J-rock or electronic or something NOT METAL. Thousand Leaves is just as metal as any other neoclassical power metal band.... e.g. GALNERYUS.

Uh, have a closer read of the rules, mate. At the bottom, you'll see that we don't accept bands who lack any original material of their own:
Quote:
Cover/tribute/gimmick bands (ex: The Iron Maidens, Catch the Rainbow) of contemporary artists (metal versions of traditional folk songs can be OK), unless they start as such and eventually write their own music

This extends to "Touhou" bands too.

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m4rowak
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:32 am 
 

Quote:
Cover/tribute/gimmick bands (ex: The Iron Maidens, Catch the Rainbow) of contemporary artists (metal versions of traditional folk songs can be OK), unless they start as such and eventually write their own music.
This extends to "Touhou" bands too.


Damn, well that's too bad. Thanks for the non-confrontational response, man.

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:52 am 
 

Deleted Angelina from the most awesomest country in the world. Pure hard rock. :( EDIT: ok, there's a few NWoBHM vibes to be found on the b-side, but yeah.
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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 2:15 am 
 

Nuked Kick N Scratch (USA); Predominantly glam.
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TheStormIRide
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 11:43 pm 
 

Deleted Becomes Astral after slight prodding. On re-listen I have to agree. A little too wanky and core-ish.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:21 am 
 

Alhadis wrote:
m4rowak wrote:
Am I missing something, or is there some bigoted rule against Touhou metal? Thousand Leaves is a neoclassical/power/speed/melodic death metal band. Last time I checked, those are METAL genres... and this is the METAL Archives. I don't see why it was okay to completely remove this band from the Metal Archives. It's not like it's J-rock or electronic or something NOT METAL. Thousand Leaves is just as metal as any other neoclassical power metal band.... e.g. GALNERYUS.

Uh, have a closer read of the rules, mate. At the bottom, you'll see that we don't accept bands who lack any original material of their own:
Quote:
Cover/tribute/gimmick bands (ex: The Iron Maidens, Catch the Rainbow) of contemporary artists (metal versions of traditional folk songs can be OK), unless they start as such and eventually write their own music

This extends to "Touhou" bands too.


I was just going to complain here, but you're too damn right. What a shame, they had amazing albums

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PDS
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 5:59 am 
 

Trust me, it killed me nukin' them.
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Klaagzang
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 7:28 am 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Sv ... att/234465
Not completely sure about this one, but it's most likely a joke.

The picture is actually a tape by Belgian band Kludde:
http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Kl ... land/29607

Also, not much information about the band itself. Seems the bandname translates to "Black Pete(r)".

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Opus
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 1:30 pm 
 

Klaagzang wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Svarte-Petter/%C3%85sknatt/234465
Not completely sure about this one, but it's most likely a joke.
Also, not much information about the band itself. Seems the bandname translates to "Black Pete(r)".


Svarte Petter is the Swedish name of Disney's Black Pete or Peg Leg Pete from Mickey Mouse.
It's also the name of a card game where the loser is left with the Jack of Spades.
The name of the demo translates to Night of Thunder.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 7:50 pm 
 

I'm failing to see how At the Heart of the World made it in here. Yeah, they have a track or two here or there with some slow, heavy riffs, but the majority of their tracks are a shitload of noise layered over hoarse shouts and the occasional doodles n' noodles, similar to 'black noise' type acts. At the very least, the genre needs to be updated.

Full discography:
*Flesh and Death (seems to contain the most metal output)

*Their half of the ATHOTW/Quills split (Track two hits the mark, the bookends not so much)

*Split with Kent State (Track three has riffs in there under the noise)

*Split with High Priestess (Keep your volume down, the first track starts right up with screeching noise. no metal at all in these two)
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:38 am 
 

Svarte-Petter has been nuked. Very nice work on finding that one.

At the Heart of the World were accepted based on the "Flesh and Death" demo as that's the only release on the v1 page. Less than half of it is metal on a six minute demo. The rest of the discography seems to similarly have some flashes of metal but it's predominantly non-metal. Removed.

I also removed two other bands this week:
Found (USA) "Experimental Progressive Metal" - Random bedroom jams that isn't musically coherent but certainly wasn't metal. A few sections were heavy rock-ish stuff.
The Morning After (UK) "Melodic Heavy Metal" - Some sorta melodic Warped Tour-core stuff that had some semblence of metal while sounding completely unlike metal.

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Derigin
The Mountain Man

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:30 pm 
 

Tossed Anamnasia. Nu-metal bullshit.

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chaossphere
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:20 pm 
 

Riiiight, so I just decided to find out what Ghost aka Ghost B.C. sounds like. I figured being Swedish and dressing up in cool hoodie robes they'd be some sort of epic crunch-metal like a Satanic version of Amorphis or something. Instead I just heard about 4 songs worth of indie rock that sounded like a really lame version of Pavement with that fat bitch from The White Stripes on drums. There was one riff which sounded slightly metalish and only because in an actual metal band it would have led into something heavy.
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OpsiusCato
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:24 pm 
 

Are you sure you listened to Ghost? In any case, you're waaaaaaay late to the whole "Ghost" things
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tomcat_ha
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:34 pm 
 

copy pasting a report i made yesterday or so

on what basis has Human Error been added to MA? Because ive heard 3 releases, Life Sentence, Financial crimes split and Another bloody Intervention and they are all crust with some grindy tracks. Even more so i have seen them live and they were even more crusty then.
Compared with the band Mind I submitted recently this band is a lot less metal and yet Mind got rejected.
http://human-error.bandcamp.com/album/life-sentence

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Diamhea wrote:
Hmm. Well it was accepted in 2005, staff has changed quite a bit over time as have the standards. There are no moderator notes on the page, so I'm not sure. That said, they were accepted in 2005, so it would have to be the material before then. Maybe check that out?

I think you should post this in the thread anyway, as this report won't get many looks.


so thoughts?

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chaossphere
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:35 pm 
 

OpsiusCato wrote:
Are you sure you listened to Ghost? In any case, you're waaaaaaay late to the whole "Ghost" things


Yep it was definitely the same one. Never even knew who they were until I saw their pics on Facebook with funny captions on them. That said, if someone wants to provide an explanation as to why they're on the Archives and Steel Panther isn't, go ahead, I could use a good laugh :)

Okay so I searched this thread and apparently their first album qualifies. Perhaps it would be a good idea to make mention of that one their page just like the one regarding Def Leppard, because that second album is a load of gutless nonsense.
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