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mentalselfmutilation
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:45 pm 
 

Tetanis (US):
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Tetanis/3540267883

No releases, one in additional notes do not exist. I think the "demos" were the names of the songs on their myspace back in the day. I know everyone in the band personally and no physical demos were ever made.


Raging Fire (US):
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Rag ... 3540294901

Basically a band with the same members as above that also got added mistakenly. If they ever had a demo it was three myspace songs that were burned onto CD-R with name written on disk which i think with current MA policy does not count, but as far as i know, that demo does not exist either.


Trioxin (US):
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Trioxin/3540312545

Demo does not exist, two songs were on their myspace page, but never released physically.
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:13 pm 
 

Deleted Upon a Burning Body. More -core than metal.

I'll check all other open suggestions in this thread eventually.
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boblovesmusic
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 5:29 pm 
 

mentalselfmutilation wrote:
Tetanis (US):
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Tetanis/3540267883

No releases, one in additional notes do not exist. I think the "demos" were the names of the songs on their myspace back in the day. I know everyone in the band personally and no physical demos were ever made.

Raging Fire (US):
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Rag ... 3540294901

Basically a band with the same members as above that also got added mistakenly. If they ever had a demo it was three myspace songs that were burned onto CD-R with name written on disk which i think with current MA policy does not count, but as far as i know, that demo does not exist either.


Trioxin (US):
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Trioxin/3540312545

Demo does not exist, two songs were on their myspace page, but never released physically.


I don't know about Trioxin. In terms of Raging Fire, I have the demo in question in my physical collection, which was given to me by a member of the band and it seemed legit to me. They were giving them out at shows for a few months if I remember correctly. I'm not at home at the moment so I take a picture of it right now but when I get home I'll do that. Tetanis I think I have their demo as well, will have to check that as well.

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 5:39 pm 
 

I Am the Law wrote:
Decameron from Japan...I am not really sure how this band qualifies as metal. Here are some of their songs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=kZHRLsTus6E#t=26s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZXAmQLwelw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk0klpGKzjA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIdCTFT-Q7w

This stuff is even more blatantly not metal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg2iBz0NEEQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTrXMG2K4ms

This sounds more like 80s AOR or soft rock than actual heavy metal.

I checked all albums. How the hell did this get approved? Nukified.
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mentalselfmutilation
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 5:35 am 
 

boblovesmusic wrote:
mentalselfmutilation wrote:
Tetanis (US):
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Tetanis/3540267883

No releases, one in additional notes do not exist. I think the "demos" were the names of the songs on their myspace back in the day. I know everyone in the band personally and no physical demos were ever made.

Raging Fire (US):
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Rag ... 3540294901

Basically a band with the same members as above that also got added mistakenly. If they ever had a demo it was three myspace songs that were burned onto CD-R with name written on disk which i think with current MA policy does not count, but as far as i know, that demo does not exist either.


Trioxin (US):
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Trioxin/3540312545

Demo does not exist, two songs were on their myspace page, but never released physically.


I don't know about Trioxin. In terms of Raging Fire, I have the demo in question in my physical collection, which was given to me by a member of the band and it seemed legit to me. They were giving them out at shows for a few months if I remember correctly. I'm not at home at the moment so I take a picture of it right now but when I get home I'll do that. Tetanis I think I have their demo as well, will have to check that as well.



Thanks Wren, didn't know Raging Fire actually did a demo. I thought it was just the myspace songs on a CD basically. I know Tetanis and Trioxin didn't have one, at least 99% sure so if you have one i'd like to see it (and even know whats on it haha). There's another band Silent Violence that was basically the same new hampshire kids who did Tetanis, and they did a demo tape they had at shows, then some promo CD-R they left at record stores. I have both sitting around somewhere. Maybe that's the one?
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 4:35 pm 
 

Deleted Undecimber. Gothic-y rock. That one's on 2011 me.
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maxy666
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:26 am 
 

maxy666 wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Triplesix/78379

Should be removed, i guess


maxy666 wrote:
Based on rules. Because the genre...no defined style. Some songs rooted on alternative rock/mallcore, others on eletronic music, grunge, death/thrash... "freak miscellaneous"



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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:02 am 
 

How about a little patience?

EDIT: Also deleted Streetkunt, d-beat/hardcore punk.
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maxy666
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:24 pm 
 

man, i just put them together, for god sake.. omg

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:50 am 
 

Easy there, chief. I said I'd deal with the remaining stuff, didn't I? And I can just about manage to wrap my head around three almost consecutive posts on the previous page.
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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:11 am 
 

maxy666 wrote:
man, i just put them together, for god sake.. omg

Could you POSSIBLY be any lazier?! :brick: It took two posts for you to get the idea that we were expecting you to provide song samples, and then you go and copy+paste the MySpace URL (as opposed to linking to individual songs, like thoughtful posters KNOW to do). Now you bitch and moan about us ignoring your slack posts??

Fuck sake.
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And you says that metal is about the riffs, that is bollocks, cause then black and death bands wouldn't get accepted, cause the play termolo-riffs.

they payl termolo! not real riff!

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:12 pm 
 

maxy666 wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Triplesix/78379

Should be removed, i guess

Well, I listened to the five tracks on Myspace and most are metal in some form, apart from one electronic interlude.

It's kind of difficult to get a picture of this band based on the Myspace page alone. If you could be a bit more specific than "nuke it, I guess" and posting a link with five songs for a band with six releases in their discography, that would be really great... Keep in mind that a band only needs one predominantly metal release (usually a full-length or lengthy demo) in order to be accepted.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 10:04 am 
 

Deleted Mordorzhög. Fake.

EDIT: Also Jaw and Mistreated from Norway. Same submitter, same reason.

EDIT2: Jagged Razor is gone, no valid releases.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 12:47 am 
 

I'm curious to know why sometimes it is a serious and hard work to prove to the moderators a necessity of adding some bands and sometimes I find strange projects here like
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Hor ... 3540366150
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Paraffin/99837
sometimes there are no releases at all, sometimes they are less than 20 minutes and are useless garage demos.
sometimes it seems to me that the only thing to do for any crowd of teenagers that call themselves "metal artists" is to play stoner/sludge doom! no jokes, maybe it is the favorite style for some moderators but there's a huge heap of such bands here...

and what's that, people?! where's something at all?! you're scarring me.
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Reverie/3540366097

ps. I'm waiting for approving/rejection of some additions for a month (!) or so, and they are 100% metal, maybe I don't understand something important???

pps: ok, maybe this band
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Hor ... 3540366150
has famous (surely it is subjective!) players in it's crew and they are trusted "in advance", but what about my addition of
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Thu ... 3540365905 ?
moderator said that he doesn't believe that Arachnes, Malmsteen's and Royal Hunt's members and ex-members are "metal enough"!
you're kidding, buddies?!?

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Napero
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:04 am 
 

I see three bands with either properly submitted demos/EPs, or simply ones with mentions of physical demos, i.e. demo releases that do not yet have a known tracklist.

It would not hurt to take a good look at the attitude in your post, Shadechaser. Passive aggression never serves you too well on the net.
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Shadechaser
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:14 am 
 

Napero wrote:
Passive aggression never serves you too well on the net.

sorry for making you think so.
anyway it doesn't help me to understand why sometimes moderators permit or decline the bands being added to the base...

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 7:04 am 
 

Well, sludge/stoner/doom stuff is pretty popular right now, so there's lots of bands playing that style. It's also metal, so we archive acceptable bands. And that's it. Yeah, I like that style, but I also like lots of unacceptable stoner rock and you don't see me adding Clutch or Fatso Jetson. I wish people would already cut it out with claiming the staff's personal likes or dislikes play any role in the approval process. It's such a load of straw-clinging bullshit. :roll:

Regarding Horseskull, I'm not sure what you mean with "trusting in advance". I talked to a member of the band about that promo before adding the band, because the photo of the CD on their Facebook was ambiguous (could have been a label-only promo). It's available for free download on Bandcamp as well as freely given away at gigs for promotional purposes. As is also mentioned in the release notes. A public, physical release right there. Fame has nothing to do with it. Not like any of the guys involved are even remotely famous anyway.

As for Thunder Rising, it seems it wasn't rejected for lack of metalness. The mod simply wanted to hear the actual music, which is perfectly reasonable. Members from metal bands/projects don't always imply metal music.

Lastly, as Napero said, all the other bands have mentions of acceptable releases in their notes. The only reason those haven't been properly added is that some info is missing, most often a tracklist. But it's safe to assume that evidence for valid releases was provided in the submission notes (photos, webstores, reviews, etc...). These are not visible to normal users, but they are to us.

Please be patient about your pending bands. We are not machines that work the queue linearly from oldest to newest.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 7:11 am 
 

Shadechaser wrote:
anyway it doesn't help me to understand why sometimes moderators permit or decline the bands being added to the base...

Because we evaluate every band individually, and the most frustratingly borderline cases like stoner rock, sludge, metalcore, hard rock/"melodic heavy metal"... they're all judged very carefully, because a lot of those borderline bands already have many non-metal elements in their music. When you compare an accepted band with a rejected one, you're usually comparing the rejected band's music with the non-metallic elements of an accepted band.

Every band on this site (save those that were accepted as notable side-projects) was accepted because they have at least ONE fully metallic release in their discography.

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Passive aggression never serves you too well on the net anywhere.

Fixed that for you. ;)
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And you says that metal is about the riffs, that is bollocks, cause then black and death bands wouldn't get accepted, cause the play termolo-riffs.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:13 am 
 

Azmodes wrote:
is pretty popular right now


is it a pop music portal here? :o

Alhadis wrote:
Napero wrote:
Passive aggression never serves you too well on the net anywhere.

Fixed that for you. ;)


is it a psychologist's forum here? wanna talk about that? :-P

ps, sorry, I won't post offtopic further...

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:16 am 
 

Shadechaser wrote:
Azmodes wrote:
is pretty popular right now


is it a pop music portal here? :o

It's a metal database with the goal of archiving all metal bands in existence. Also, would you mind not quoting me out of context? Thanks.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 5:48 pm 
 

Can someone check this band out?
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Melandrolia/29395

I added the new release based on a report and then I got to listening to it and it's not metal at all. So I went back and listened to the first release which has a few borderline metal passages but there's no way I'd consider it metal at all, much more rock. And it sounds even more rock because it's produced so poorly.

http://melandrolia.bandcamp.com/album/transici-n
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 6:09 am 
 

theunrelentingattack wrote:
Can someone check this band out?
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Melandrolia/29395

I added the new release based on a report and then I got to listening to it and it's not metal at all. So I went back and listened to the first release which has a few borderline metal passages but there's no way I'd consider it metal at all, much more rock. And it sounds even more rock because it's produced so poorly.

http://melandrolia.bandcamp.com/album/transici-n

Agreed. The debut is borderline in places, but not metal overall. Looks like the first demo shares all songs with the first full-length, so no need to check that one.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 4:09 pm 
 

Deleted Noctum Eternity and Horkus Noctum from Honduras. No (proof of) valid releases, both were submitted with fake physical release proof.

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Umbra: http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Umbra/62711
Sui Generis Umbra: http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Sui ... mbra/11372

...are these really valid side projects? Okay, for one, the music obviously isn't metal at all:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eACIVHKXio8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDGwhOILJk4

One of the members hasn't been in any metal bands at all, and then the other member has only been in a Polish gothic metal band with two reviews on the website and only 20,000 listeners on last.fm (to give you an idea of about how underground that is, Opeth have 680,000, Cannibal Corpse have 350,000, and Bathory have 160,000; hell, even Incantation have about 40,000). Doesn't really strike me as a metal band who are notable enough to have side projects eligible for inclusion on the website.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 4:17 pm 
 

Artosis were fairly notable in the late 90s/early 00s. they were on Metal Mind, which is/was a fairly significant label, especially in Poland, and those projects are somewhat notable for involvement with the metal scene.

That being said, I don't know them well, I'll bring it up for discussion. Derigin reviewed one of them so I'd guess he knows it.

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http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Gre ... 3540306308

This band's label does not look like it has worldwide distribution.
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Worldwide distribution is not a requirement, just a guideline.

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Deleted Cold Wind from Mexico... depressive rock/shoegaze that was initially accepted under the side-project criteria, but removed after it was agreed the primary member wasn't nearly a notable enough musician in the metal scene.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 2:31 pm 
 

I have a question, and maybe this isn't the right place to post it but I am curious. If I see a band with no actual releases listed, only a note about a demo or album, should I post them here? It seems like I come across quite a few of them.

One example I can think of is Sad Moon's Grief. They have no releases listed and the only proof of existence is an album cover. They are listed as doom/death but how can we even be sure if there are no sound samples? I have searched high and low and cannot find anything from this band. There is no way to tell that the album was ever even released. Are they acceptable because they are related to a much more well-known band (Lacrimas Profundere)?

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 2:54 pm 
 

^ Been asked/brought up a thousand times here before. Short answer: no.

Long answer: a note about a release means we know a release exists, we just don't know all the necessary details so that the release could have its own page. This doesn't invalidate the band.

However, if there's no mention of release at all, we can do some investigating etc.

@ Sad Moon's Grief specifically: it's been 7 years since it was added, so it's possible the evidence has disappeared since. It is also always possible it was accepted for wrong reasons, but it's not the only possible scenario, and not the most probable option either.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:12 pm 
 

^What he said. Also:
I Am the Law wrote:
They are listed as doom/death but how can we even be sure if there are no sound samples?

One can assume that samples were provided for the submission. Maybe they once had a Myspace account that got deleted. Or whoever submitted them owned the album and uploaded some songs. It's been some time, but our basic approval policies and standards haven't changed that much since then. There is always the possibility that a band shouldn't have been added/approved, but for it to get through the submission process automatically means that it can be assumed to be acceptable and the burden of proof lies with the one claiming that it is not.

I Am the Law wrote:
I have searched high and low and cannot find anything from this band. There is no way to tell that the album was ever even released.

Well, I did a quick Google search and already got these two mentions of the album:
http://forum.metal-hammer.de/showthread ... Demo-Tapes (listed for trading)
http://www.vinylsearcher.com/items/17/3 ... nface.aspx

Nevertheless, seeing that the band was from Graz, I'll try to ask around for that release. Maybe I can get a tracklist to properly add it or even some MP3s. But considering all the info available, I don't very much doubt that it's a legit band.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:00 am 
 

Sorry I can't provide links right now, as I'm on a mobile phone, but can the mods check out the Argentinian band Bloodparade? I was about to review one of their albums for the review challenge but it occurred to me that it'd be dumb to waste time writing about a band who might not even belong on the website. They're listed as "gothic metal" but all of the stuff I've heard ranged from a marginally heavier Evanescence to full-on techno with rock vocals on top; all-in-all it sounds more like hard rock mixed with electronica than metal.

You can find samples on YouTube if you search, but I can gather up links for you guys myself tomorrow once I'm on a computer. I can also provide samples from the Take My Blood EP if needed.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:22 pm 
 

MutantClannfear wrote:
You can find samples on YouTube if you search, but I can gather up links for you guys myself tomorrow once I'm on a computer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAp-X0BPK2w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qGB5K9dwwU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w99s8um4I7U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDdlBxSnWHo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuyQPFkidmA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPMeQLaKImo
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thrashinbatman
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 6:04 pm 
 

Not sure if this is where this needs to go, but recently it's been noted that the album Shemhamphorae by Zatreon is made up of songs by Toxic Grind Machine.

http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/bar/ ... r-own.html

If that's enough, then I feel it should be edited to reflect this.

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Deleted The Continuum. No releases.
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Deleted Eternal Misery from Morocco for serial plagiarism with the agreement of Azmodes. The band's only full-length was stolen from R. Nikolaenko, other tracks have been confirmed as stolen (including a cover - who the fuck steals a cover of a song?) and the rest of the demo tracks seem to come from different origins, suggesting that they too are not the artists own, original work. The band has not been proven to have a valid release based on the extent of plagiarism in known works.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 3:27 pm 
 

Just see Lucifer's Friend in the Archives again and wondering: why the band was deleted and why it was restored? :)

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 3:53 pm 
 

The first entry was originally deleted by the moderator Witcher years ago. He did so entirely on his own, without discussing the matter with other staffers first. Bad Witcher. The band was brought up again by a user not too long ago and this kind of snowballed into a mod-internal talk about similar "proto-metal" bands and their inclusion. While other bands from that era and with a similar heavy rock/embryonic metal sound are currently still being discussed (Witcher made other, similar clandestine deletions, meaning that some of these bands were previously on the site), everyone agreed that the lonewolfing Czech shouldn't have just nuked LF and most supported the idea of them having a spot here (again). All in all, they may not be up to our usual standards of metalness, but, historically speaking, they are an impactful/influential band, their debut and subsequent albums containing very heavy/metallic music for its time. Some songs can even be called early heavy metal.

Consider it a selected exception of debatable holistic metalness but historical relevance for the metal pedigree, similar to Rush or Deep Purple.
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GuardAwakening
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:58 am 
 

Azmodes wrote:
Deleted Upon a Burning Body. More -core than metal.

I'll check all other open suggestions in this thread eventually.


Damn dude, I didn't think Upon a Burning Body would get deleted. I actually checked up on searching them on this site right now to recommend a band similar to them before finding this thread and was all like "what the... where did they go??"

Doesn't matter much to me though, they're basically Whitechapel just without balls. Needless to say; I never cared for their music that much :-P

It's probably gonna bring in a lot of butthurt fanboys though. I just so happened to (coincidentally enough) find this thread claiming you deleted them the same day I found out they were deleted.

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GuardAwakening
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:00 am 
 

Zodijackyl wrote:
Deleted Eternal Misery from Morocco for serial plagiarism with the agreement of Azmodes. The band's only full-length was stolen from R. Nikolaenko, other tracks have been confirmed as stolen (including a cover - who the fuck steals a cover of a song?) and the rest of the demo tracks seem to come from different origins, suggesting that they too are not the artists own, original work. The band has not been proven to have a valid release based on the extent of plagiarism in known works.


..and I am eternally grateful for this happening. Fuck music thieves, especially 17 year old kids thinking they're 'depressed' and that their life is ruined and thus make DSBM projects revolving around this matter. Of which in this case, none of the music produced was even his to begin with.

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