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Doomsday
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 2:55 am 
 

Deleted Carrion (Washington, DC). Post-hardcore/punk/math rock with minimal metal elements.
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theunrelentingattack
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:54 pm 
 

These guys should probably go as well:

http://www.metal-archives.com/report/vi ... 6/show/all

Acelsia - http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Acelsia/3540314146

If the rest of their music is anything like this song - then they are 10,000 maniacs with a rock guitar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-_Zndkdwd8
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Metantoine
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 2:30 pm 
 

I talked to HellBlazer, we're nuking them. I checked the samples of the new album, it's definitely not metal.
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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:04 am 
 

Toasted Putregore from Quebec, Canada. Only release was just a re-release of this with different cover artwork... fuck, even the additional notes stated it was the same recording. :rolleyes:
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And you says that metal is about the riffs, that is bollocks, cause then black and death bands wouldn't get accepted, cause the play termolo-riffs.

they payl termolo! not real riff!

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Doomsday
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:35 am 
 

Deleted Braveyoung. Post-rock.
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:07 pm 
 

Deleted Shocking Truth. Reported as being rock by someone who claims to own the tape and the submitter himself said he didn't provide samples upon submission and only saw they were labelled as metal on eBay, so either way... This shouldn't have been approved in the first place.
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Necroticism174
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:24 pm 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Bob ... ab_members was just wondering why this is here. No releases, status unknown, and no related links?
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Obscurum
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:44 pm 
 

Necroticism174 wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Bob_Egler/105868#band_tab_members was just wondering why this is here. No releases, status unknown, and no related links?

Weird ... Look at Caliginosity's update for the label field: both values are blank. Huh. But there are tons of bands like that. I guess most were submitted with proofs the bands released something, but no "known" tracklistings or years of release--just anything that would prevent a proper discography entry. No links just means the band is obscure or has no web presences (anymore at least). Without any "regular" way of contacting the band, it's hard to know the status. "Unknown" works for that.
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Necroticism174
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:09 pm 
 

Maybe so. Still looks iffy to me.
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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:15 am 
 

Necroticism174 wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Bob_Egler/105868#band_tab_members was just wondering why this is here. No releases, status unknown, and no related links?

Deleted; nothing was ever released. I even inboxed Bob Macabre himself about this on YouTube a year-and-a-half ago... he said even he didn't know what the fuck that was doing there. I queried ralfman about it, but he said he couldn't remember 100% either.
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And you says that metal is about the riffs, that is bollocks, cause then black and death bands wouldn't get accepted, cause the play termolo-riffs.

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Halloween
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 3:26 am 
 

Kicked Grim (Sweden) out. Ambient.

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asdebilas
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 3:06 pm 
 

Why Traxx from United kingdom were accepted? Review were writen by lunaboy and he's not a trusted source.he knows nothing about metal.

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 3:07 pm 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/report/view/id/421709
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Zodijackyl
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 6:21 pm 
 

Removed Nerij - full-length is purely dark ambient, and the demo was depressive BM/dark ambient. The demo was limited to 10 copies, so the band hardly had a valid metal release. Doesn't really belong on a metal archive.

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:11 pm 
 

Deleted Skräpp Mettle. Hard rock.
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Sciera
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 3:29 pm 
 

Anyone having any idea why this has its own entry? http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Unburied/55423
According to the bio on the band's homepage (on Archive.org) "Splattered Cadaver" was a self-titled release (so they were already called that way in 1996) and doesn't mention that they ever had a different name: http://web.archive.org/web/200103030841 ... om/bio.htm
I'd just move the infos to the other entry and nuke this but I thought I'd better ask first.

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Zodijackyl
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:08 pm 
 

Sciera wrote:
Anyone having any idea why this has its own entry? http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Unburied/55423
According to the bio on the band's homepage (on Archive.org) "Splattered Cadaver" was a self-titled release (so they were already called that way in 1996) and doesn't mention that they ever had a different name: http://web.archive.org/web/200103030841 ... om/bio.htm
I'd just move the infos to the other entry and nuke this but I thought I'd better ask first.


I'd ask emperor_zola, if he added it he probably has/had that demo. I know he has answered a few questions for me about some unusual and obscure demos and he has an extensive collection.

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Sciera
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:20 pm 
 

Zodijackyl wrote:
Sciera wrote:
Anyone having any idea why this has its own entry? http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Unburied/55423
According to the bio on the band's homepage (on Archive.org) "Splattered Cadaver" was a self-titled release (so they were already called that way in 1996) and doesn't mention that they ever had a different name: http://web.archive.org/web/200103030841 ... om/bio.htm
I'd just move the infos to the other entry and nuke this but I thought I'd better ask first.


I'd ask emperor_zola, if he added it he probably has/had that demo. I know he has answered a few questions for me about some unusual and obscure demos and he has an extensive collection.


He has added 600 bands and this demo is not in his collection (assuming the one in his profile is complete). But you're right, that's propably the best source.

EDIT: It's gone.

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 2:53 pm 
 

Deleted Light Yourself on Fire. Predominantly spastic hardcore.
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ThePoop
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 3:25 am 
 

Nickelback on the archives? Is this a joke!?

Can we maybe create an open dialogue on the possibility that this may be a ridiculous decision?

EDIT: In my timezone it's still March 31st. I get it now.... Good one guys.
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Zodijackyl
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:12 pm 
 

Deleted Demon Project from Russia. Predominantly industrial/electronic.

EDIT April 6th: Deleted Legacy of Pain, pure deathcore that's half breakdowns.

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:27 am 
 

Deleted Persecutioner from California. No sign of any valid releases, wrongly approved based on shaky/fake proof.
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Helvede
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:49 pm 
 

Anyone know why Greek band Divorce was accepted?

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Divorce/3540261521

- Sounds like pure AOR to me on the Triangle album, but maybe they actually played metal on early releses?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10sagjfschc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5Zs0yejOkg

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Opus
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:43 pm 
 

Why on earth are Cockney Rejects on the archives??

From the notes: "Known mainly for their early oi/punk days but their sound went increasingly hard rock/metal oriented and by 1982 became fully NWOBHM/traditional metal."

I own (and like) The Power and the Glory from '81 and The Wild Ones from '82. Not a single metal riff can be found on either of those two. You might say they share some audio similarities with some NWOBHM bands, but that's on the rock/hard rock side of the spectrum.
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aeternus1990
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 6:26 am 
 

Opus wrote:
Why on earth are Cockney Rejects on the archives??

From the notes: "Known mainly for their early oi/punk days but their sound went increasingly hard rock/metal oriented and by 1982 became fully NWOBHM/traditional metal."

I own (and like) The Power and the Glory from '81 and The Wild Ones from '82. Not a single metal riff can be found on either of those two. You might say they share some audio similarities with some NWOBHM bands, but that's on the rock/hard rock side of the spectrum.


Yeah, this is weird at the first time to see a well-known Oi! band here but sure they have a metal album, it's "Lethal" released in 1990. The album:

01 - Bad Man Down
02 - Penitentiary
03 - Struttin' My Stuff
04 - Lethal Weapon
05 - Rough Diamond
06 - Go Get It
07 - Down 'n' Out
08 - One Way Ticket
09 - Once a Rocker
10 - Take Me Higher

Also, if anyone want to hear their 80's albums - "The Wild Ones" and "Quiet Storm". "The Wild Ones" seems to have metal riffs and "Quiet Storm" is more hard rock:



There's also a thread about it and the answers were given.

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Opus
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 8:35 am 
 

I appreciate the effort, but instead of posting the whole albums, you should have posted what you consider to be metal riffs. I'd be interested in that.
The Wild ones sound like Rose Tattoo. Lethal sounds like Quireboys trying to be Def Leppard. Quiet Storm is just embarrassing.
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aeternus1990
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 4:41 pm 
 

Full albums are just because of the convenience. Maybe somebody wondering too and that's a quick way to listen any song of those albums :p I'm considering that metal riffs are existing on these albums, they are obvious and easily can be heard. Well, if you want concrete, take the song #2 of the "Lethal" album - it's obviously metal riff. These albums are not fully metal in the Judas Priest "British Steel" way, they are borderline hard rock of course. Well, I'm not much an expert, just the opinion, let's see what the staff thinking about it.

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Opus
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:08 pm 
 

aeternus1990 wrote:
take the song #2 of the "Lethal" album - it's obviously metal riff.

The galloping part? You think that is enough to make a song metal, that otherwise sounds like Billy Idol's Rebel Yell? If that's the case, MA's got some serious reconstructing to do.
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aeternus1990
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:48 pm 
 

OK, maybe I wasn't concentrating very well... From that song - the riff that was on 00:25 and then repeating on 01:14 - I'm considering it a metal riff. Or the one that is in song #6 on the same album. My vision of ideal metal riff is based on this song. But still I don't know fully how such borderline albums reviewed as metal by staff, mistakes always can happen.
As far as I know such bands with a long non-metal discography (as Cockney Rejects) should have at least one fully metal album to be here. So the question is how these two (or three) albums are metal, they are not predominantly metal from what I've heard. This is a borderline case, hard to judge to say exactly is it metal or not. Albums of 9-10 songs, if only half or less than a half of them representing the metal side, in my opinion, such albums can't be exactly called metal.

Cockney Rejects is an Oi! band in general, so, yeah, should be reviewed. Oh, these hard cases. What if the bands like SS Decontrol which are known as hardcore will be accepted based on such songs?..

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Zodijackyl
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:22 pm 
 

Deleted The Sinful Ensemble. Klaagzang dug up a review of their CD and the demo and it's not at all metal. I don't even know how this got onto the archives, but the review and music seem to match up.

http://home.planet.nl/~carli892/user/im ... 9.scan.jpg
http://www.mediafire.com/?e72z7yzflviebm5

Also deleted Efenstor, electronic neofolk that the artist calls metal despite not being at all metal, save a distorted MIDI guitar in a song or two.

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OpsiusCato
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:22 pm 
 

Deleted Dominus Luciferi from Colombia. Turned out to be a fake band with stolen music and pictures.
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:46 pm 
 

Deleted Gold from the Netherlands after Tony brought the full-length to my attention. They were approved based on their "Gone Under" single alone, which is acceptable, but by far the most metal song on the new album. The rest is hard rock with the occasional metal leanings.

About Cockney Rejects... we/I'll check them out when I can.
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The_Black_Priest
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 6:52 am 
 

Delete my band (Judas Ancestry). I have found out that our split album with Izund was never released by SET Productions.
And also we just made few copies of our single *The Forces of Nazarene* to distribute among our friends and supporters.

With a heavy heart I admit my mistakes of been carried away by the mutual agreement between Alhussain Sherif (Owner of SET Productions). :(

My band's link -
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Jud ... 3540332824

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The_Black_Priest
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 6:55 am 
 

I am 100% sure he cheated us. He never produced any CD's . Instead he put our single for free download in few unknown sites.

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 4:25 am 
 

Deleted.
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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 4:40 am 
 

The_Black_Priest, I just want you to know that was a tremendous act of honesty on your part, to have your own band deleted to uphold the site's integrity. :) We salute you.
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The_Black_Priest
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 4:59 am 
 

@Alhadis - I am glad I can contribute. :(

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Zorg85
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:10 pm 
 

Nuke Scavenger added today

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Sca ... 3540362520

Same band as http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Sca ... 3540304785

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:15 pm 
 

Info transferred and deleted.
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:08 am 
 

Azmodes wrote:
About Cockney Rejects... we/I'll check them out when I can.

So I did some listening... Can't say I'm the go-to guy for NWoBHM/classic metal, but here are my thoughts regardless:

  • "The Power and the Glory": Hard rock.
  • "The Wild Ones": Sounds like hard rock for the most part, but the metal elements in some of the riffing are undeniable.
  • "Quiet Storm": Definitely hard rock, not even that hard most of the time.
  • "Lethal": Early traditional metal/hard rock.

The other albums I heard were either punk or rock.

Now as I said, this not being my genre of choice I don't want to give any definite green or red lights all by myself, but I would be okay with keeping them based on "Lethal" and possibly also "The Wild Ones".

However, if we keep the band, the note about "by 1982 [the band] became fully NWOBHM/traditional metal." should definitely be changed. It's simply misleading, seeing that the 1982 album is borderline and there's only one other predominantly metal one from 1990 ("Lethal"), with the rest of the subsequent releases being hard rock/punk.
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