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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 8:04 am 
 

immortaltriumph wrote:
Sorry guys! I have a question: I was waiting for my band to be submitted on the archives (I saw that someone created the profile and was in the band queue) but after some days I found out that the band has been blacklisted. I just want to know why or if it is possible to recreate the profile: the band is called Human Improvement Process, plays experimental death metal, has a full length album and two EPs out; here is a link to the last lyric video to proof that the band can be considered absolutely more metal than core. Thanks for you attention, I'm waiting for some explanations ^^

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KRo5KMU7EM

It's predominantly techy deathcore, not metal. I recall listening to the full-length and it was similar to the song you linked.
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immortaltriumph
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 11:38 am 
 

Azmodes wrote:
immortaltriumph wrote:
Sorry guys! I have a question: I was waiting for my band to be submitted on the archives (I saw that someone created the profile and was in the band queue) but after some days I found out that the band has been blacklisted. I just want to know why or if it is possible to recreate the profile: the band is called Human Improvement Process, plays experimental death metal, has a full length album and two EPs out; here is a link to the last lyric video to proof that the band can be considered absolutely more metal than core. Thanks for you attention, I'm waiting for some explanations ^^

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KRo5KMU7EM

It's predominantly techy deathcore, not metal. I recall listening to the full-length and it was similar to the song you linked.



That can be your opinion, man, but in lots of review and articles people tell that it is absolutely more metal than core.. There are some bands like The Faceless or Fallujah featured on the archives.. there is no possibility to ask for different opinions? Maybe what for you is core, for another guy can be death metal. Thanks
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:46 pm 
 

Gotta agree with Az here, definitely more -core elements than metal.
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Goatfago
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 2:11 pm 
 

My band Druidus got rejected today. We have an upcoming release for our demo on cassette.. its being released by by infernal kommand records later on and on till you fukkin bleed on november 4th.


http://bleed.storenvy.com/products/3386 ... e-preorder

edit:I guess it needs to released already..weak. took me forever to prepare that shit. Cut me some slack? Its out in 2 weeks lol.


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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 2:12 pm 
 

As the rejection email you got said, upcoming releases aren't acceptable. Please wait until November 4th.
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Goatfago
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 2:16 pm 
 

Alrighty. Sorry I was taking a shit as I read it and misread it. Dang

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 2:17 pm 
 

Goatfago wrote:
edit:I guess it needs to released already..weak. took me forever to prepare that shit. Cut me some slack? Its out in 2 weeks lol.

Nothing is lost. The draft can simply be resubmitted.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 4:28 pm 
 

So is there a staff consensus on the whole "blackgaze" thing? Does it work in the same vein of the "more-metal-then-core", or "more-black-then-gaze"? Or is it something that isn't added on the site?
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 4:31 pm 
 

At the risk of blowing your mind, if it's more metal (black metal) than non-metal (shoegaze/post-rock), then it's acceptable.
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Pichushkin
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:50 am 
 

I was astounded to see that Raunchy are not on the archives. Anyone here care to tell me why?

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OpsiusCato
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:46 pm 
 

According to the blacklist, it was deemed to be "tech/prog deathcore". Not metallic enough by the site's standards.
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mrwaudio87
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 5:00 pm 
 

The band "Dyed In Grey" (united states) has been blacklisted? They had a release May 2013:

http://www.amazon.com/The-Abandoned-Par ... +abandoned

https://play.google.com/store/music/alb ... dqoi&hl=en

I was unable to add the band, they are definitely metal and have met all submission rules?

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OpsiusCato
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 5:44 pm 
 

They're not "definitely metal". According to the blacklist, it is non-metallic djent/mallcore.
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Vautour
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 10:49 am 
 

Why were Orbweaver banned? They're pretty metal in my opinion...

http://orbweaver-official.bandcamp.com/ ... ralnomicon

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:00 am 
 

Predominantly mathcore.
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mrwaudio87
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:16 am 
 

@OpsiusCato: "non-metalic djent/mallcore"? ..mallcore...?? how can someone take this seriously if you classify bands with fabricated sub-sub-genres. Your standards for metal are corrupted and your ears have betrayed you. You can cancel shipment on my members only jacket, thanks.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:21 am 
 

GUYS, IT'S ALL JUST METAL!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:24 am 
 

mrwaudio87 wrote:
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:35 am 
 

mrwaudio87 wrote:
@OpsiusCato: "non-metalic djent/mallcore"? ..mallcore...?? how can someone take this seriously if you classify bands with fabricated sub-sub-genres. Your standards for metal are corrupted and your ears have betrayed you. You can cancel shipment on my members only jacket, thanks.

That blacklist note is a bit weird, not because of the terminology per se, just considering what I'm hearing, but I'd agree that the band is not metal. Prog-y, technical stuff, hardcore-based.
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RobVR
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:42 am 
 

Hey Buddy I think you didn't listen to our music... I don know where is the Noise and the non metal riffs... We have 2 guitars and 1 bass. Drums are clean and 0 noisy... please reconsider this... MA includes band as of our genre like Spasm, Gutalax. Fecalizer and Paracoccidioidomicosis and many more.... I think that Fecal Addiction hard work and professionalism must be recognized ( as you may note we are all members of other death metal bands *** http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Pur ... 3540356272 - http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Reb ... 3540332080 ) ...

Listen to our Metal / GoreGrind. I think we have similar sound to Gutalax and Spasm style: Please take a few minutes to listen to our stuff:

Supporting Putrid Pile:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXn4s1hG3qA

Live performance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGCQVbesK1M

Singles 2013 of our EP

* Pussy Garden: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daZ2fOOcbUk

* Let's go tits bang!!! : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utWO5fAW0RM

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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 6:58 am 
 

Metantoine wrote:
GUYS, IT'S ALL JUST METAL!

SSSH! :p Careful, they can't hear the sarcasm!

Rob's Valid Release wrote:
Hey Buddy I think you didn't listen to our music... I don know where is the Noise and the non metal riffs...

Some songs sound acceptable, others are borderline. Without a full release to listen to and evaluate, I'm not comfortable unblacklisting the band until we can be sure you've a 100% obviously metallic release in your discography. Bands like Spasm, Fecalizer and Paracoccy are here because at least one of their albums are fully metal. So the whole "but you accepted X, why not Y?!" argument will never work.

Also, we don't judge on live performances. We judge bands by their recorded material.
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RobVR
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 10:50 am 
 

Alhadis wrote:
Metantoine wrote:
GUYS, IT'S ALL JUST METAL!

SSSH! :p Careful, they can't hear the sarcasm!

Rob's Valid Release wrote:
Hey Buddy I think you didn't listen to our music... I don know where is the Noise and the non metal riffs...

Some songs sound acceptable, others are borderline. Without a full release to listen to and evaluate, I'm not comfortable unblacklisting the band until we can be sure you've a 100% obviously metallic release in your discography. Bands like Spasm, Fecalizer and Paracoccy are here because at least one of their albums are fully metal. So the whole "but you accepted X, why not Y?!" argument will never work.

Also, we don't judge on live performances. We judge bands by their recorded material.


Thanks buddy.. that a good response.. Ill submit our EP ( 5 tracks ) soon... have a good day... :)

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Raphaellius
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:23 am 
 

I add a band (arkane), and they´re rejected it because it was not metal band ¿¿???? Metallum; There´s many bands that are NOT metal. what is your justification for rejecting my band ...




(apologies for any mistake in spelling, I´m German)



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Cursarion
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:44 am 
 

Probably this? Genre: Neoclassical

The non-metal bands on the site generally were metal at some point, or are somehow relevant to the scene, as a side project or otherwise.
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:49 am 
 

The justification for rejecting the band is that it's dark ambient/neoclassical. If you're hinting at the few non-metal projects in the database, -as RonimuZ said- those are selected exceptions/side-projects, usually by notable musicians within the scene. Doesn't mean we accept any non-metal project by any random musician who also has a metal band.

Also, German? If so, then residing in Venezuela, it seems.
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Marcelo
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 9:35 am 
 

well the band that I'm trying to add has beign rejected 3 times, I can not prove to the moderators that this band is real because of the ''valid digital realese'' I show the official facebook and youtube, and I upload de two EP's at Mediafire for free dowload. I really do not know what else to do, the band is unsignded and they self realese their material. thanks anyway.

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uglur
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:05 am 
 

Marcelo wrote:
well the band that I'm trying to add has beign rejected 3 times, I can not prove to the moderators that this band is real because of the ''valid digital realese'' I show the official facebook and youtube, and I upload de two EP's at Mediafire for free dowload. I really do not know what else to do, the band is unsignded and they self realese their material. thanks anyway.


You're talking about Aether, right? Well I don't doubt that the band exists.
But these Eps wouldn't be valid digital releases even if they were available for download.
So the Ep(s) need to be released physically. If that's the case you need to provide proof. For example take a photo of the cds if you own a copy. If you don't you'd need to link to a place where you can buy the ep(s) (bandcamp, a distro etc) or quote an official source where the band advertises it for sale.
That's all written in the rejection messages you got.

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Marcelo
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 3:55 pm 
 

uglur wrote:
Marcelo wrote:
well the band that I'm trying to add has beign rejected 3 times, I can not prove to the moderators that this band is real because of the ''valid digital realese'' I show the official facebook and youtube, and I upload de two EP's at Mediafire for free dowload. I really do not know what else to do, the band is unsignded and they self realese their material. thanks anyway.


You're talking about Aether, right? Well I don't doubt that the band exists.
But these Eps wouldn't be valid digital releases even if they were available for download.
So the Ep(s) need to be released physically. If that's the case you need to provide proof. For example take a photo of the cds if you own a copy. If you don't you'd need to link to a place where you can buy the ep(s) (bandcamp, a distro etc) or quote an official source where the band advertises it for sale.
That's all written in the rejection messages you got.

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Marcelo
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:23 pm 
 

uglur wrote:
Marcelo wrote:
well the band that I'm trying to add has beign rejected 3 times, I can not prove to the moderators that this band is real because of the ''valid digital realese'' I show the official facebook and youtube, and I upload de two EP's at Mediafire for free dowload. I really do not know what else to do, the band is unsignded and they self realese their material. thanks anyway.


You're talking about Aether, right? Well I don't doubt that the band exists.
But these Eps wouldn't be valid digital releases even if they were available for download.
So the Ep(s) need to be released physically. If that's the case you need to provide proof. For example take a photo of the cds if you own a copy. If you don't you'd need to link to a place where you can buy the ep(s) (bandcamp, a distro etc) or quote an official source where the band advertises it for sale.
That's all written in the rejection messages you got.


Yes Aether is the band, the guys from the band send me this link: http://www.lastfm.es/music/Aether/when+my+soul+breaks

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Badbulon
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:09 am 
 

Why Nocturno Culto's Gift of Gods is in blacklist?? I don't understand :S

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:21 am 
 

Badbulon wrote:
Why Nocturno Culto's Gift of Gods is in blacklist?? I don't understand :S

Because people were incessantly submitting it before the album's release date. Can be submitted now.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:41 am 
 

Marcelo wrote:
uglur wrote:
You're talking about Aether, right? Well I don't doubt that the band exists.
But these Eps wouldn't be valid digital releases even if they were available for download.
So the Ep(s) need to be released physically. If that's the case you need to provide proof. For example take a photo of the cds if you own a copy. If you don't you'd need to link to a place where you can buy the ep(s) (bandcamp, a distro etc) or quote an official source where the band advertises it for sale.
That's all written in the rejection messages you got.


Yes Aether is the band, the guys from the band send me this link: http://www.lastfm.es/music/Aether/when+my+soul+breaks


Have you read and do you understand what I wrote you?
No valid physical or digital distribution. Ergo not acceptable.

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metalbunny
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 11:54 am 
 

Hi, I have re-submited the band called Apologeos, It was rejected because it need physical release, but They have already released their first album:

http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx26 ... 2fd067.jpg

http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx26 ... 6f5611.jpg

Please, review this again

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MetalCuresHeadaches
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 4:33 pm 
 

It says that Bodies in the Gears of the Apparatus are blacklisted. -core reasons?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 4:36 pm 
 

MetalCuresHeadaches wrote:
It says that Bodies in the Gears of the Apparatus are blacklisted. -core reasons?

Yes, predominantly mathcore/grindcore. I posted them in the "Why was band X accepted?" thread about a month ago.

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Cursarion
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 5:46 pm 
 

metalbunny wrote:
Hi, I have re-submited the band called Apologeos, It was rejected because it need physical release, but They have already released their first album:

http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx26 ... 2fd067.jpg

http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx26 ... 6f5611.jpg

Please, review this again


Try posting the links again, they're broken.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 5:53 pm 
 

sorry, here you can find the photos:

http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx26 ... 2fd067.jpg

http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx26 ... 6f5611.jpg

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Marcelo
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:54 pm 
 

Perhaps this is ok: http://aether3.bandcamp.com/album/the-g ... rgotten-us

the band is Aether from Argentina.

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Gelordum
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:23 am 
 

Marcelo wrote:
Perhaps this is ok: http://aether3.bandcamp.com/album/the-g ... rgotten-us

the band is Aether from Argentina.

Digital mini-albums are not allowed.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:31 am 
 

Guys,

what about Apologeos? here you can find photos of their released album "Ópera Prima", its a LP album:

http://s738.photobucket.com/user/smosqu ... 7.jpg.html

http://s738.photobucket.com/user/smosqu ... 1.jpg.html

That proves that Apologeos have released a full album, thanks for you time.

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