Hello!

I've seen that the band I submitted has been rejected as a non metal band.

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Face_Off/3540360579

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIwRqorJ ... e=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfpwXiFX ... e=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=815bBZ0B ... e=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKnEg_2y ... e=youtu.be


I've read this(http://www.metal-archives.com/content/rules?index=1) and really couldn't see the right reason? Could you please tell me on what ground does this stand? And is it possible for this decision to be revised?


For example this is a (well known) metal band in your archives : http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Lacuna_Coil/124


Cheers,

Stefan

What was written on the band's page

lol

I thought it was a bit borderline, I checked with some other mods and we agreed that it's not metal enough.

Yes, I was wondering why Toxic Grind Machine was rejected. It was rejected for not being metal, but I personally think it is. I would like to hear it from someone other than Metantoine, who has an obvious disliking for me.

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Tox ... 3540360736
http://toxicgrindmachine.bandcamp.com/

That's not metal. Very far from it, actually.

By the way, whether you think he has a vendetta against you or not, do respect the decisions of mods. I took a second listen as a courtesy, not because you went to papa when mama said "no".

I don't have a vendetta against anyone, I simply dislike when users try to add obvious non metal bands and many of your submssions are really pushing our virtual release policy. You're young and you should perhaps get to know our guidelines a bit better before arguing about everything.

Thank you, I appreciate an honest answer; I just felt that the Industrial/Groove tone to it would be acceptable.

This was the first band that I have asked about because I feel that it is. I know that I have submitted many bands with a strong punk tone to it that I tend to not pay attention to while I submitted. I also know that I have submitted some bands that I know that I shouldn't have, but I'm just new to the website, and I'm trying to get a feel for what's acceptable because all of my bands that are more borderline get rejected.

;Evidence of metalness and physical copies of releases for Terminal Existence:]

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7/pe ... 56c388.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7/pe ... d650a7.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7/pe ... 4020a9.jpg


http://www.mediafire.com/?ppsn0e2gm4t0e5r

going to resubmit

This is not a very good/solid proof of release...

What else could I do? I could give you the guitarists email but I'm not sure he still uses that email, it is terminalexistence@hotmail.com

I don't know what else I could do to make my proof more solid, that is how I received those CDs at their concerts when they were still together also D. Butcher from Crematory Digestor played drums for Terminal Existence you can contact him and ask him to validate those photograph. His email is humanbrisket@yahoo.com

How in the heck was Slice the Cake rejected? I put together an amazing page for this band, an admin unblacklisted them just so I could do so because he was convinced enough that they were metal for the site and then a moderator comes in rejects them, blacklists them again and says they're "Djent/Core band not metal"

I hate to say it, but I'm a little upset about it. The band is not "core" or "djent", the band has riffs that I would even compare to Fleshgod Apocalypse or Edge of Sanity. Sure the band's name is kind of dumb, but I almost 90% grantee you if they were named something like A Forbidden Prophecy or some shit and had members with long hair and beards all about then they would be on this site in a second.

I ask you again: how is this "NOT metal"?

1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeSmNb2Nlw0

2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbzItzn07L0

3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4auIPM4YEw

4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1TYAoFAFiM

5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTTwAf4edeQ

6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LwO6dDbPK4

7: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXtN_lf8Ho4

8: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHDY9MGfLuY

Derigin, I left the contact information for two members of Terminal Existence so you can ask them about the CD's I took pictures of. The CDs are on paper sleeves because that is how the band made them. They were a D.I.Y band all the way to also recording themselves and making their own patches and CDs.
The guitarist Carlos, (not sure of he still uses this email) terminalexistence@hotmail.com
The drummer David, humanbrisket@yahoo.com

I emailed the band members when they reply to me I'll take a snapshot and post it here.

I wasn't the one who dealt with this band, but checking these songs, I agree with the decision. The proggier song are softer than Between the Buried and Me and the heavier song are more core than metal. Nobody cares about the look of the members or their name, their music is what's important. Your comparaison with Fleshgod Apocalyspe and EoS is really really far off.

Also, don't twist the words of the mods. Derigin never told you they were unblacklisted and he already told you he considered them non-metal.
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=93654&p=2145787&hilit=slice+the+cake#p2145787

Just want to add in that I also took a look at this band (but wasn't the one to reject it), but my vote was also to reject. Hearing somebody compare this to Fleshgod Apocalypse utterly confounds me.

I don't know when "progressive" came to mean "djent", but ever since djent was given a name and a scene, I can't help but notice a lot of people confusing the two terms.

To be fair, I was personally under the impression that the band was metal at a time when that first song was pretty much all I'd heard from them. Those other songs sound pretty djenty/chuggy/not riffy to me, though, not that my opinion here matters.

Still waiting for the email from Terminal Existence.

Uglor don't only play hardcore, they play a mix of metal and hardcore. If you listen to the other songs then you can hear the metal riffs. I have been trying to contact them but haven't successfully gotten ahold of them. If they ever write back then I could rip the cassette tape demos they released in the 80's to show you guys that they deserve to be in your amazing site

http://myspace.com/uglortheband
http://www.punkrockers.com/Uglor
These are the only websites I could find with music still up.

Not to be rude, but have you let one single rejection go by without protesting it here? Yeah, obviously you disagree if you submit it in the first place but I swear it's every single day with you. Uglor is nothing resembling metal, in any capacity. I don't mean to speak for every mod, but I'm 100% sure they'd all agree with that assessment. Just... jeez man just let it go.

No just this month I submitted a lot of bands and half of them got rejected. I always listen to the music repeatedly before making a draft and submitting. That's the reason it seems I'm here every day.

RazorDick, it's apparent you have a different perspective of what's "metal" than what the site does. In which case, just agree to disagree. Please don't argue or protest... one user ended up doing it over a prolonged period of time, and he ended up getting gagged (forum banned).

The same will happen to you if you continue to post aimless appeals inquiring about rejected borderline punk/hardcore/rock bands.

Ok, I'll only write here when I'm completely sure a band was wrongly rejected or blacklisted. Thank you for your patience with me. I will be writing here about Terminal Existence (which their music is acceptable just need further proof of their physical releases) when I get a reply from the band members.

Thank you Alhadis, BastardHead and Derigin for your patience.

Hello Encyclopadia Metallum Admins! I received an email of rejection earlier for a band called Vaginal Spermspit (VS). "Riffless goregrind; does not belong on Encyclopaedia Metallum. Please read (or re-read) our rules next time to see what qualifies as metal." was the sum of the message. All of the tracks on the VS discography are stage ready etc. Vaginal Spermspit is very heavily influenced by Cannibal Corpse tremolo riffage and picking style, and the vocals consisting of low grunts through octave pedal. Every track has lyrics to them, as well. Vaginal Spermspit has two EP releases which you can listen to and download for free through http://www.soundcloud.com/vaginalspermspit . VS is also in preproduction to release an LP due in the summer of 2013 which so far has 25 original full tracks on the list, making it roughly 30-35 minutes long. The LP is currently untitled and will be released independently. Printing of hard copies are also in the works, as well as stickers and other merchandise. Vaginal Spermspit already has a small following behind it locally, and has also been featured on MTV Canada; as the man behind it - who refers to himself under the pseudonym "Doctor Fuck" - appeared on 3 episodes of MTV Creeps which featured a sample of the title track from "Human Child Sex Trafficking" called "Bunkbed Bang", which at the time was under the working title of "Bloodpuke". These episodes are still getting national television play as more people are subscribing to the updates of the Official Vaginal Spermspit twitter account (@acidflesh). Make no mistake, VS is a very real. If there is any more information that you need to verify these independent digital releases, I will be checking back very soon as well as updating the profile to which I’ve created for this project on your site. Thanks again for running this site by the way; it’s really helped me find some killer artists and new music that I would have otherwise never heard about. Cheers.

-Dr. Fuck

@eckmeier1990: The problem is not that the band is not real but that it dosn't use metal riffs.

Sorry dude, there's a line between metal-based goregrind and punk/noise-based goregrind, and I'm afraid your band falls on the latter side of the fence (joining bands like Rompeprop, GUT, etc).

Why was Terracide rejected? Is their sole release too short or something?

http://terracide.bandcamp.com/

Considering that they're doing most of this themselves and they lack money, I think this is a pretty solid effort, despite the short length.

3 songs, less than 14 minutes? That is too short.

I can see that point, it's definitely an earful. I just figured that because of the low end/blasting/tremolo paired with the occassional chunky groove riff, that it would be leaning more on the metal side of the grind, but now that you've mentioned the prop I can sort of see what you're getting at. Although I can't agree with you completely, I suppose I'll just trust your judgement. You guys seem to have your hands full all the time sorting these exact same debates out. Thanks for the input, you'll see me posting around here now and then just because I like the site. Have a good one guys

- Dr. Fuck

What she said. ^

Sorry mate, but as a digital-only release, that EP's too short. If there was a physical pressing of it, it'd be a different case, but while judging acceptable virtual releases, we need to take total playing time into consideration. There will of course be leeway given for short releases with top-notch production, but that can only stretch so far... sorry.

Hi, the sunday I post my band, called THE GRAVE, i was rejected because my band plays PROG ROCK. This is Progresive rock???

https://soundcloud.com/thegrave_doom/

Please, listen well and tell me, we play DOOM like SAINT VITUS, BLACK SABBATH, LORD VICAR, REVEREND BIZARRE, we don't have anything of Progressive.
Thanks

I don't know the guy - just listened to his band and this is no prog rock, haha. Just fucking traditional doom, just as he stated. By the way, really cool music, with a better sound this could be a great album

Uh yeah, it's doom metal alright... Removed from the blacklist but...the band doesn't seem to have a valid release. Do you have a CD or a downloadable (and not streaming like soundcloud) link?

Well, this is a weird issue. I submitted a band named MonstrO yesterday and now I've got some points but I can't find my entry anywhere. It's not in the submission queue either.

I sent you an email (on the one on your profile). I basically fucked up haha!

Haha. Got it. Not a problem. I was in a bit of dilemma as well before submitting but I listened to the album again and metallic riffs are present in some of the songs and I guess it's just not enough for MA. It's ok.

Hi, I got the rejection mail for Ghostfather. I totally understand the staff of MA might consider the music not "metal enough", however there are several reviews that put the album into metal categories. If you don't mind checking them out.

• Metal Impact (France) => Melodic Heavy Metal
http://www.metal-impact.com/index.php?n ... nt&id=4299

• Pavillon 666 (France) => Modern Metal
http://www.pavillon666.fr/chronique-metal-5943.php

• Power Of Metal (Denmark) => Heavy Keyboard Oriented Metal/Rock
http://www.powerofmetal.dk/reviews11/gh ... review.htm

• Perfect Prog (Mexico) => Heavy Metal/Hardrock
http://www.perfectprog.com/index.php?op ... &Itemid=88

• Lords Of Metal (Holland) => Prog / Sympho Metal
http://www.lordsofmetal.nl/showreview.p ... 00&lang=en

Thank you for your time.

Hello!
I tried to add the progressive metal band Distorted Harmony from Israel and received a notification that the band was blacklisted.
I would like to understand why and appeal the decision, seeing that I find the band no less metal than bands such as Riverside.
Here are some songs to back my plea:

-Blue
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoE7GqWOBsc

-Misguided:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wac1LG2CLsA

-Utopia:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wac1LG2CLsA

I did not "twist" any "words of the mods"

ANOTHER moderator (not Derigin) unblacklisted them because he felt that they were metal enough due to recent releases to be given another shot meaning they were blacklisted before, so nice try. Also I don't see how being "heavier" than an already heavy band like BTBAM really counts as if they're metal for the site or not. If being heavy was a real factor of bands being on this site then we'd be having See You Next Tuesday and The Acacia Strain on here.

I know what djent is, I hear no "djent" in Slice the Cake. But if you hear The Siren's Song, and nearly everything off their new album it's without a doubt that they're a progressive bandl.

Slike the Cake was clearly not metal.

Hmmm, who? And where?