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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 9:47 pm 
 

HASHCLOUD wrote:
"Sorry HASHCLOUD, Encyclopaedia Metallum was forced to reject your submission for the band Baphometh (Brazil), for the following reason:
Do you know how many copies were made of those tapes? How were they being distributed?
If you want to object to this rejection, please do so in the appropriate thread in the Suggestions and Complaints sub-forum. Do not e-mail moderators directly about this.
Sincerely,
- Azmodes, Encyclopaedia Metallum"

So...

Well, I wouldn't take the use of the word "rejection" in the email to heart. That's automated, what I actually wrote in the middle is the important part.

HASHCLOUD wrote:
1) Foundation member Marcos "Fallen Angel" says that about 50 copies of each demo were originally dubbed from masters tapes.
2) I don't have a better picture now; unfortunately all pics available date from the early 90's and were took with a very simple camera.

Alright, restored.
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Nagaarum
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:17 pm 
 

Nagaarum was rejected many times.
But in this month was released a black metal album by Nagaarum, and physical copies are ready for spread.
Evidence:
http://nagaarum.com/megjelent.php
Maybe this time could I register the Nagaarum in the Metal Archives?
Sorry for my awful English skill :-S

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TheLoneForest
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 4:11 pm 
 

Hello,

My band "A Perfect Day" was rejected because my Full-Length wasn't released as of the time when I submitted it. If I change the release date to today then can I submit it again?

N.G.

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gravesideservice
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 6:00 pm 
 

It has been many years since I have been on this forum and would like to try to resubmit GraveSideService to The Metal Archives .
We have re-recorded and Remastered our original release with 2 guitars ( metal riffs ) and Scott Connor ( Xastur on bass guitar ) .
We have also release 2 other cds as well , all can be proven . I can mail you physical copies if you wish . where do I begin this process ?

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Ziotopanga
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 6:50 pm 
 

Why NoLand was rejected? Their full length was released a few weeks ago, and it's available as digital format through this link :

https://www.dropbox.com/s/a0hzaa61dgv7v ... owhere.zip

And this is the facebook page : https://www.facebook.com/NoLandMetal

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Megrimmtroll
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:40 am 
 

The band Norn that I had submitted was rejected, as there wasn`t enough proof of a physical release. Here is a link from the bands own website, advertising the bands cds. I hope this is enough to get them added. :) http://www.norn.in/#!merch/c24i2

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fylopaloma
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 6:30 pm 
 

Hi, I'd like to add Sguaguarahchristis, it's an occult black metal band and band members explictly don't want to declare where they come from, they released a 2 eps and one full length, http://sguaguarahchristis.bandcamp.com/album/der-nacht

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Wilkun
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:19 pm 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Eteritus/3540376146

seriously? rejected? I can do pre-order CD, but I can not put on a metal archiv two days before? In that case, replaced at the album
http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Ma ... ond/401228
premiere until March 24. Where's the difference? A new band has no right to for approval?

pre-order:
http://allegro.pl/eteritus-tales-of-dea ... 51116.html

http://youtu.be/I8bHFApUxqk
reviews:
http://necromance.eu/?p=857 in Spanish
http://metalrulez.pl/11580/eteritus-tales-of-death in Polish

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Fulgurius
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:50 am 
 

Wilkun wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Eteritus/3540376146

seriously? rejected? I can do pre-order CD, but I can not put on a metal archiv two days before? In that case, replaced at the album
http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Ma ... ond/401228
premiere until March 24. Where's the difference? A new band has no right to for approval?

pre-order:
http://allegro.pl/eteritus-tales-of-dea ... 51116.html

http://youtu.be/I8bHFApUxqk
reviews:
http://necromance.eu/?p=857 in Spanish
http://metalrulez.pl/11580/eteritus-tales-of-death in Polish

Read the rules and stop posting here each time your submission gets rejected, especially considering your poor English which makes my eyes hurt. Piotr had even explained you the reason in Polish in his rejection message, and nevertheless you have resubmitted it. :brick:

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MetalizeR888
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 8:57 pm 
 

Mortifero (ARG) Demos: https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hph ... 6074_n.jpg

You can quit the blacklisted now?

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RazorDick
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 11:55 pm 
 

http://doomedyouthatl.bandcamp.com/
Doomed Youth was rejected not that long ago. Would this be enough to resubmit them without rejection? I just checked up on their FB page and they seemed to have uploaded all their releases for free download.

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 12:36 am 
 

RazorDick wrote:
http://doomedyouthatl.bandcamp.com/
Doomed Youth was rejected not that long ago. Would this be enough to resubmit them without rejection? I just checked up on their FB page and they seemed to have uploaded all their releases for free download.

ok, resubmit.
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Malediktum
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 10:16 am 
 

3 bands which rejected fot the reason "A band needs a valid release before they can be accepted to the site - a valid release is one that's either". But I think, these digital releases meet the requitrements:
" - Digital and available for full download: must also be a finished/final mix (no garage rehearsals or rough mixes), AND long enough (preferably over 20 minutes)
- Already released. That is, no upcoming releases!"
Releases have a final mix and ~20 min and more. Its are available for full download from official pages:
- http://ulgoroth.bandcamp.com/album/uthrimm
- http://vk.com/yarekovich?w=wall6287129_4541%2Fall
- http://aldegar.bandcamp.com/album/demo
What is don't correspond to rules concrete in these cases? Thanx.

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Fulgurius
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 11:13 am 
 

Malediktum wrote:
3 bands which rejected fot the reason "A band needs a valid release before they can be accepted to the site - a valid release is one that's either". But I think, these digital releases meet the requitrements:
" - Digital and available for full download: must also be a finished/final mix (no garage rehearsals or rough mixes), AND long enough (preferably over 20 minutes)
- Already released. That is, no upcoming releases!"
Releases have a final mix and ~20 min and more. Its are available for full download from official pages:
- http://ulgoroth.bandcamp.com/album/uthrimm
- http://vk.com/yarekovich?w=wall6287129_4541%2Fall
- http://aldegar.bandcamp.com/album/demo
What is don't correspond to rules concrete in these cases? Thanx.

I've told you several times to re-read the rules on digital-only bands, and you keep submitting bands with only digital demos or EPs. Ideally, digital-only band should have at least a full-length. In some cases EPs may be accepted if they are long enough AND are really professional releases. That is, bedroom demos do not qualify even if they are longer than 30 minutes. If you think that a release that is referred to by the band as "demo" is professional and long enough to qualify, you should expound on your arguments in the submission notes, and not simply put the download link there, we're not going to listen to absolutely everything if there isn't at least an appearance of a valid release. Also, read the complete rules, not just the rejection message. The rules also speak about the moderator discretion, which means we won't accept everything that is 20 minutes long.

Speaking about these particular bands: Aldegar - 19-minutes long demo. Ulgoroth - the release is 35-minutes long, but labelled as a demo and pretty shitty sounding. Yarek Ovich - the EP is barely 20 minutes, which doesn't guarantee automatic acceptance. The fact that it's posted in two versions, with and without vocals, also smells of it being treated by the artist himself more like a demo rather than finished product.

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fylopaloma
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 11:36 am 
 

Why my post was ignored? I've seen the previous discussion about Sguaguarahchristis, it wasn't added because band released only eps but now they released a full length, http://sguaguarahchristis.bandcamp.com/album/der-nacht, it could be added, there's only a location issue.

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Metantoine
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 11:41 am 
 

The band was added...
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fylopaloma
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 11:49 am 
 

ok, but even if they come from Italy, you should have respected their will...

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 12:53 pm 
 

Nagaarum wrote:
Nagaarum was rejected many times.
But in this month was released a black metal album by Nagaarum, and physical copies are ready for spread.
Evidence:
http://nagaarum.com/megjelent.php
Maybe this time could I register the Nagaarum in the Metal Archives?
Sorry for my awful English skill :-S

I guess this is okay, but still quite a bit of non-metal elements. I'd like another mod's opinion first.

gravesideservice wrote:
It has been many years since I have been on this forum and would like to try to resubmit GraveSideService to The Metal Archives .
We have re-recorded and Remastered our original release with 2 guitars ( metal riffs ) and Scott Connor ( Xastur on bass guitar ) .
We have also release 2 other cds as well , all can be proven . I can mail you physical copies if you wish . where do I begin this process ?

That won't be necessary. Photos of some copies will suffice, upload them to imgur.com and post them here. Do you have a Bandcamp page or some other site where we can listen to sufficient samples of the music? The blacklist note merely says "not metal" and I don't know the band.

TheLoneForest wrote:
Hello,

My band "A Perfect Day" was rejected because my Full-Length wasn't released as of the time when I submitted it. If I change the release date to today then can I submit it again?

N.G.

Errr... well, that naturally depends on whether the thing is available or not. Is it a digital release?

Ziotopanga wrote:
Why NoLand was rejected? Their full length was released a few weeks ago, and it's available as digital format through this link :

https://www.dropbox.com/s/a0hzaa61dgv7v ... owhere.zip

And this is the facebook page : https://www.facebook.com/NoLandMetal

Hm dunno. Resubmit.

Megrimmtroll wrote:
The band Norn that I had submitted was rejected, as there wasn`t enough proof of a physical release. Here is a link from the bands own website, advertising the bands cds. I hope this is enough to get them added. :) http://www.norn.in/#!merch/c24i2

Resubmit.

MetalizeR888 wrote:
Mortifero (ARG) Demos: https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hph ... 6074_n.jpg

You can quit the blacklisted now?

How many copies made? Is there any online mention of the band selling them? And why is the cover in your photo different from the one uploaded for this submission by a band member?
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MetalizeR888
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:37 pm 
 

Azmodes wrote:
MetalizeR888 wrote:
Mortifero (ARG) Demos: https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hph ... 6074_n.jpg

You can quit the blacklisted now?

How many copies made? Is there any online mention of the band selling them? And why is the cover in your photo different from the one uploaded for this submission by a band member?


Yeah this is the second press and final cover. The demo is sell by his facebook since 2013.

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:47 pm 
 

I see. You can resubmit.
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Crossripper
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:49 pm 
 

I want to know why the band Desecrator of Evil was deleted from Metal Archives, if IS A METAL BAND, HAS BEEN APPROVED, WITH A PHYSICHAL RELEASE AND WITH PROOFS TO SHOW THAT THE BAND IS METAL!!!!

Evidence of that is a Metal band:

http://desecratorofevil.bandcamp.com/
http://www.reverbnation.com/desecratorofevil
https://myspace.com/desecrator_of_evil.col

Desecrator of Evil has released a demo tape called "Profanacion Piionera" on Bandcamp appears the photo of the copies.

Please unblacklist or resubmit please.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:53 pm 
 

Punk/noise
viewtopic.php?p=2377557#p2377557
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Crossripper
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 6:22 pm 
 

Metantoine wrote:


Punk/ Noise???? according with the band menber the band plays Metal: Raw Black Metal with punk influences.

Check the bio:

http://www.reverbnation.com/desecratorofevil

Little review:

http://www.legionofdeathrecords.com/sho ... anguage=en

The band haves distribution of metalness labels:

Check:

http://www.legionofdeathrecords.com/sho ... anguage=en
http://winterforestp.wix.com/winterforestp#!distro/ctc3
http://metalthronesproductions.webs.com/tapes

As Hellhammer: plays "Black Metal" the recordings are noisly and they are influenced strongly by punk

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Crossripper
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 6:27 pm 
 

Why Jesus Peña was rejected and blacklisted? according with the official page Jesus Peña plays Death Metal, and released physichal demo tape.

http://jesuspena.bandcamp.com/
http://www.reverbnation.com/jesuspe%C3%B1a4

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geneanlucas
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 11:20 pm 
 

Rot was blacklisted probably because they're a Grindcore with minor or none metal influences/too punk, but this band have dozens of stuff like Agathocles, one of them could be appropriate enough for the archives
Maybe "Almighty God" 1991 or "Cruel Face of Life" 1994 would be "metal enough"
I just have the download for '94 album, thanks for the attention, guys, judge the audio: http://www.4shared.com/get/d2wcoJwXba/R ... _1994.html

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 12:40 am 
 

Another mod and I agreed that Desecrator of Evil is much more noisy punk, riffing-wise, than black metal. It's really quite noisy and raw as I remember, pretty random. Jesus Peña was rejected for a similar reason (blacklist says "bedroom noisecore") and I have to agree again. To call this death metal is quite bold.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 3:48 am 
 

I know this is not the correct thread to post this, but I wonder if MA considers this metal enough?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iof5QwRJk58

Just a query before I proceed to submit the band in this site.

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Megrimmtroll
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:50 am 
 

I have a draft for the band Dreadful, from Finland I have read the rules about digital releases. Does a release via Spotify & i tunes count? Thank you :)

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 12:53 pm 
 

Megrimmtroll wrote:
I have a draft for the band Dreadful, from Finland I have read the rules about digital releases. Does a release via Spotify & i tunes count? Thank you :)

Link(s)?
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The Infamous Bastard wrote:
I know this is not the correct thread to post this, but I wonder if MA considers this metal enough?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iof5QwRJk58

Just a query before I proceed to submit the band in this site.


Consider this a quick, friendly reminder that this is not what the thread is for at all (which you already seem to know). The evaluation process is part of the submission process. I know it sucks to put a lot of work in and get rejected, but you don't get to start the race from the halfway point. And also, if you aren't sure yourself, it's probably best to just not submit it anyway. If it's so borderline where the submitter him/herself is having doubts, chances are it's not gonna fly.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 2:14 pm 
 

Azmodes wrote:
Megrimmtroll wrote:
I have a draft for the band Dreadful, from Finland I have read the rules about digital releases. Does a release via Spotify & i tunes count? Thank you :)

Link(s)?


Here are two sites which host the bands music :)

http://open.spotify.com/artist/2YDlISkrjZNTnopwh9tqiK
http://itunes.apple.com/fi/artist/dreadful/id477762398

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 2:55 pm 
 

Sure, looks acceptable.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 3:14 pm 
 

Azmodes wrote:
Sure, looks acceptable.


Thank you :)

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Andre Gaius
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 3:40 pm 
 

Why was Marcus Jidell blacklisted?

It's Heavy/Progressive Metal/Shred, so what's the problem?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9f-oDns1Yc

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 3:46 pm 
 

Andre Gaius wrote:
Why was Marcus Jidell blacklisted?

It's Heavy/Progressive Metal/Shred, so what's the problem?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9f-oDns1Yc

That track is 100% instrumental rock shredding and he was rejected last year for the same reason.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 10:57 pm 
 

Hi, please unban the Chinese depressive black metal band "忧泪", new full-length album "破镜" was out on 14 February: http://music.douban.com/subject/25830150/
The album is more metal than ambient, you can listen to the three tracks ("泪锁哀秋", "惘夜Pt.1" & "甜梦 (Marilyn Manson cover)") from the new album @ their official Douban page: http://site.douban.com/Sadtears/

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 6:10 am 
 

BastardHead wrote:
The Infamous Bastard wrote:
I know this is not the correct thread to post this, but I wonder if MA considers this metal enough?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iof5QwRJk58

Just a query before I proceed to submit the band in this site.


Consider this a quick, friendly reminder that this is not what the thread is for at all (which you already seem to know). The evaluation process is part of the submission process. I know it sucks to put a lot of work in and get rejected, but you don't get to start the race from the halfway point. And also, if you aren't sure yourself, it's probably best to just not submit it anyway. If it's so borderline where the submitter him/herself is having doubts, chances are it's not gonna fly.


Okay, I have submitted the band. And my concern was the same thing. It sucks to have put a lot of work in adding a band and then it getting rejected.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 6:14 am 
 

BlackenedZeroth wrote:
Hi, please unban the Chinese depressive black metal band "忧泪", new full-length album "破镜" was out on 14 February: http://music.douban.com/subject/25830150/
The album is more metal than ambient, you can listen to the three tracks ("泪锁哀秋", "惘夜Pt.1" & "甜梦 (Marilyn Manson cover)") from the new album @ their official Douban page: http://site.douban.com/Sadtears/


I disagree, the Pt.1 track maybe, but the first track has very little metal in it and covering Marilyn Manson is not the most compelling argument in the world.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 7:37 am 
 

I haven't listened, but it's worth adding that cover songs do not concern us when judging a band.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 7:40 am 
 

Sorry, I want to know why, when I added Suicide Movement, I recieve this answer

theunrelentingattack wrote:
DSBM is my forte. "Pure DSBM" - no, i wouldn't call it that. That first track is borderline. Strip away the screams and it doesn't convince me. The second track is okay to me. But that's 50/50 and that second one has a long ambient into, so right now I'd say no. But if there's more out there, I'll listen tomorrow.


But yersterday night I've see that Suicide Movement it's on metal-archives. Someone can explain me why? Thanks!

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