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Rasc
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 5:08 pm 
 

I know that's not really relevant, but check this out:

I googled "Vomited Abortion" and found a post of a guy who just made 9 posts in May 2011 (shortly after Vomited Abortion got their release out), who curiously uses the same capitalisation as the Bandcamp does (VomiteD AbortioN), both in the band's name and in his username (GurrG):

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=81653

On the main site, the contributions of this guy would be 2 reviews, the addition of a Mexican band and many, many artists from bands Inner Mortum and Cemeterium being added, both being bands where this guy called Belegurth, that GurrG added, were in. Well, not only did GurrG knew an awful lot of data from Belegurth, he's also from the same country he added (Canada), and, surprise surprise, he's the sick fuck behind Vomited Abortion.

http://www.metal-archives.com/artists/Belegurth/139799
http://www.metal-archives.com/users/GurrG

Their names and ages differ, but that's nothing. Not only I can't find either on Facebook, Sacha Desautels and Mikko Wiljakainen are improbable names for a guy who claimed to be Canadian and apparently played in a band in Mexico. Just here to say GurrG, Aborted and Belegurth are almost surely the same sicko.

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 6:11 pm 
 

Neutrality is very important for this site and I like to consider myself capable of objectivity in my capacity as a staffer. If there'd be proven distribution of CDs or something else undoubtedly validating this band according to our rules, I would approve them in a second and argue against anyone trying to exclude them. But -any moral considerations aside- we have a quite borderline case here, a crappy digital demo band of highly questionable professionalism and seemingly sparse, ephemeral distribution. I think it's not uncalled for here to err on the side of good taste, so to speak, and not delve into lengthy discussions on the subject of objectivity with this particular project as the catalyst. Seriously, child porn or not, it's a shitty digital-only troll "band", hardly the first we denied entry.

In any event, Morrigan has the last word here.
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yentass
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:38 pm 
 

Can a mod give Unfold's latest album a spin and see if it might be deemed metal enough?
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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:47 am 
 

Iggnsthe: Much as the issue of VxAx disgusts every mod (including myself, the guy unfortunate enough to have discovered that disgusting bullshit), this twisted fuck's release doesn't fulfil the criteria of a valid release. If it's uploaded anywhere, it's guaranteed to not remain online for long. And asking for photographic evidence of a physical release is, in a manner of speaking, almost encouraging digital distribution of child pornography (even if it's a picture of a printed image, I suspect it makes no difference from uploading the actual image itself). Point is, we're not making an "exception" here based on our own moral compass, much as I'm sure some of us would like to.
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Iggnsthe
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 2:24 am 
 

Yeah, I've looked into the relevant guidelines and come to the same conclusion. I've nothing more to add to the matter, apologies for the harshness of my previous input, I was not aware of some of the strictures regarding professionalism, which is certainly lacking in the case of this project under any definition that I'm able to provide.

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MERRIN
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 6:43 am 
 

Hi encyclopedia Metallum folks.

Not here to argue, just to put my band's case forward, maybe illuminate what we're about further than we could in the band submission form.
Your reasons for rejecting, on the basis of lacking in Metal-mess were clear and understandable regarding our record, but it's only our first release as a full band and we intend on recording more of our heavy material later this year.

I guess my first question is if we can I still submit the band after this release?

We were rejected on the basis of not being Metal. And while it's true the record isn't particularly heavy until the final ten minutes, we actively try to blur the lines of heavy music.
I can see that could wind some people up, and if that's the case then fine.
On record we produce soundtrack pieces, which are heavy as hell when played live, but could be considered ambient on record. Our starting point was drone/doom, but as that genre can be painfully boring at times, we try to shake things up with riffs. But we believe in being more subtle than just firing them out, we try to build tension. If it takes twenty minutes to get to the heavier riffs, the riffs will be heavier as a result.
That's where we're coming from anyway.
Also, the first half of the record is comprised of songs that were written when the band was simply a guitar and bass duo. This balance is going to change more on future releases, but I still write solo, and they will always have a place in this act. We'll be a better band as a result.
I doubt anybody ever told Iommi to remove Planet Caravan from Paranoid, or Orchid/Solitude from Master of Reality, and if they did, he'd tell them where to go. (Like Pantera did, on the sleeve notes of Far Beyond Driven)
I ain't telling you guys where to go, but simply asking you to give us the benefit of the doubt for trying to do something different.


I'll link you to a rehearsal tape from last year (prior to recruiting our new bassist)
This is what we sound like live (hell, this song is even on the record) and this is what our future releases are going to be sounding like.
At worst, I'd call this post-metal. I certainly can't see Mogwai pulling out a song like this anytime soon, haha.

MERRIN, Shakma - Live - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLx67sojM3A
If you really can't stand the post-sounding build, then skip in five minutes.

Yeah, so that's my case. I understand if you still want to reject it based on what you heard on our record, but I think it would be a shame to judge us on our diversity.
There would be no hard feelings I hope, from this appeal, and I would also hope that we could still submit future releases as we develop into an even heavier act.

All the best (and thanks for your time)

MERRIN

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Cursarion
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:53 am 
 

@Merrin
Firstly, congrats on finding the right thread and thanks for being polite! That's too rare a combination.

I haven't listened to your music myself, so I wouldn't know for 100% certainty, but I suppose you aren't challenging the "lack of metalness" point anyway. Diversity in general isn't bad or unacceptable, but if it means it really isn't metal, then it's bit tricky, considering this is a metal encyclopedia. Also, actually, all heavy music isn't metal.

Also, the records are the only thing we judge. (One could ask why aren't your records metal if your live performances are, but I suppose it doesn't really matter right now). And "We're a metal band despite our first release wasn't metal, and we're going to release metal soon" doesn't quite cut it - what if it never happens in the end? We'll have a band which sort of intended to be metal, but never quite was.

The answer to your first question is yes - once you have a release which is metal. The procedure will be different next time, though. Your band was blacklisted, which means it can't be submitted before it's unblacklisted by moderators, so don't try to go around the blacklist. Instead, when you have a valid metal release, return to this same topic, ask your band to be unblacklisted, link the new release and include relevant information. If we agree regarding the metalness, it can be submitted and most likely will be included in the archives. So if you really develop much enough into a more metal direction, there'll be no problem whatsoever. Until then there's not much more to say.
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MERRIN
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 10:16 am 
 

Hi dude

First off, thanks for replying, when I saw there were over 200 pages here, I'd understand if I was completely ignored.
That's a lot of unsatisfied bands, haha.
All your points are valid, I won't argue them.
What is metal, what isn't metal? - any sane man will tell you it's a tedious argument.
I know the shows we play, and I know our audience. For me, it's just about broadening and securing an online presence for people that try to seek us out after a show.

Future releases will be a bit heavier so I'm glad I can submit ourselves again.
I'll remember to make our case in this thread.

Thanks again for your time, its appreciated.

MERRIN

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tripledewormint
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 10:37 am 
 

Warning: a band called "Triple Dewormint" (Russia) has been blacklisted!

Banned from 2008 by 14-years old fag coz "goregrind is not metal"

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Yayattasa
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 10:46 am 
 

Pure goregrind is not metal
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 10:50 am 
 

@Merrin: Heaviness is not exclusive to metal, it is not a trait that automatically makes a band metal. While I appreciate your polite tone (it happens too rarely in this thread, so kudos to you!), I find it irritating when people use the "we're heavy as fuck, i.e. we are metal" argument.

Merrin was submitted as doom metal, but I was hard-pressed to find anything approximating that description online. "Phantasm" is nothing but mellow post-rock/ambient, "V​/​H​/​S" is acoustic ambient, "Antonio Bay" is ambient. "Doom Cinema" mostly follows in their wake except for the last track, which does have a sludgy doom riff about halfway through, but I'm sure you'll understand that out of 4 releases, one partially metallic track is not something that turns them into a metal band by any reasonable definition. This site tries to judge bands based on whether or not metal riffing pervades their music and Merrin doesn't have much riffs at all.

Furthermore, we don't judge bands based on future eventualities. This is an encyclopedia of (largely) existing, established information, archiving bands with metal releases. It's not a promotional site where non-metal projects that might release something metallic are allowed to advertise themselves.

As Cursarion already mentioned, the band is currently blacklisted, which means that it can't be submitted anymore. This does however not mean that it's barred forever. If you have a new, valid release which is consistently metal from start to finish, you can post about it in this very thread and we'll take another look at it.
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Cursarion
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 10:50 am 
 

MERRIN wrote:
Hi dude

First off, thanks for replying, when I saw there were over 200 pages here, I'd understand if I was completely ignored.
That's a lot of unsatisfied bands, haha.

Weeeell, that's over the course of almost four years, so it's bit over a page per week on average! Anyway, we try to address everything.

In the end, everyone's got their own perception of metal. We concentrate on metal riffs (read more under "Heavy Metal Only" here in the rules), but even still all of the moderators are hardly unanimous all the time. There's music that's clearly metal, music that clearly isn't metal and then there's a wide grayer area, where we have to draw the line somewhere.

Anyway, you're welcome. And yes, feel free to do that once the time is right.

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Warning: a band called "Triple Dewormint" (Russia) has been blacklisted!

Banned from 2008 by 14-years old fag coz "goregrind is not metal"

The blacklist note is from September 2012 and it says "Gorenoise". Have they released anything (more) metal since? If so, please include links.
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tripledewormint
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 10:56 am 
 

Oh it is about thin septa between brutal death metal (13 USD sick bro) and goregrind (beautiful sounds of nature)...
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The blacklist note is from September 2012 and it says "Gorenoise". Have they released anything (more) metal since? If so, please include links.

hah that was someone's attempt after 2008

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MERRIN
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 2:05 pm 
 

Hi Azmodes

I didn't catch your message before.
Those previous releases you mention are basically self recorded, self released solo records. I wouldn't expect anybody to see them as anything other than that. Bands should, hopefully, want to evolve. We build our songs around riffs, we play at metal shows and have predominantly metal fanbase following us.
I know what we are, I'm not looking for validation. That's not why I'm here.
If I see an outlet where curious people could look us up, I'm going to try to exploit it. Any band who doesn't isn't working hard enough.

Personally, I think Metal (Doom, especially) is built around riffs and heaviness, at least that's all I'm interested in. For me, it's about the songwriting rather that the sound. I'm sure you have a far different idea and I'd probably agree with most of it. I could challenge you on the ambient/acoustic merits of plenty of bands but I doubt this is a conversation you want to have so I wont go on about it.

Like I said, I'll be submitting our next release, which will be more consistently heavy, but it's still going to have those ambient passages so you might still reject it. Again, I think this would be a shame, but not the end of the world. As long as you don't mind me posting it in this forum/thread for your consideration. At the end of the day, if you've taken the time to listen then we're grateful.

We'll let that be the end of it until then.

Thanks again.

MERRIN

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 2:44 pm 
 

MERRIN wrote:
Those previous releases you mention are basically self recorded, self released solo records. I wouldn't expect anybody to see them as anything other than that.

Well, be that as it may, they are also what is released, i.e. what is available to the public and to us to check out. So that's what the band will be judged on. As I said, "we'll head into a metal direction soon" does not quite cut it for this site.

MERRIN wrote:
Bands should, hopefully, want to evolve. We build our songs around riffs, we play at metal shows and have predominantly metal fanbase following us.

I'd be the last to deny the subjectivity of music, but I still can't help but be baffled by this since I heard a total of one riff in one song. Ambient or noise bands can have metalhead fanbases too. We are not interested in fanbase demographics or scenic affiliations, we are interested in what a band actually plays and has released on a valid medium.

MERRIN wrote:
Personally, I think Metal (Doom, especially) is built around riffs and heaviness

I agree. Your band doesn't (yet) seem to be, though.

MERRIN wrote:
For me, it's about the songwriting rather that the sound.

For us too and I heard almost zero metal songwriting in your music. But I guess there are some pronounced semantic dissonances at play here.

MERRIN wrote:
Like I said, I'll be submitting our next release, which will be more consistently heavy, but it's still going to have those ambient passages so you might still reject it.

Depends on whether these passages outweigh the metal ones. We don't reject bands who incorporate non-metal elements into their music, as long as these elements don't become predominant. There's always going to be a fuzzy border, but when it comes to Merrin (as of now) I honestly don't think there's much room for debate.

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As long as you don't mind me posting it in this forum/thread for your consideration.

Not at all. I insist, actually. In fact, re-evaluation of bands can help to keep this site up to date and relevant.
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MERRIN
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:35 pm 
 

Well, while I definitely don't agree when you say there are no riffs there, it's all subjective and it's not worth either of our time arguing over it.
We're trying to straddle two genre's of music, Doom & Soundtracks. Perhaps we're handling the soundtrack part better than the Doom part, but we're getting there.
I could talk about that all day, though, and if you'd like to, we can challenge each other back and forth regarding other bands that are doing the same thing. There's plenty of ammo in that cannon, ha-ha. But for the sake of not pissing anyone off, I'll hang back until I'm invited.

I appreciate you letting me come back to try again in future.

It's been fun chatting, all the best.

MERRIN

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Terrion666
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:58 am 
 

Hi! I recieves this e-mail rejecting Suicide Movement by the following reason:

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Sorry Terrion666, Encyclopaedia Metallum was forced to reject your submission for the band Suicide Movement (Spain), for the following reason:

Please provide song samples, or at the very least, a detailed description of the music by a trustworthy third-party (such as a zine or reviewer site).

If you want to object to this rejection, please do so in the appropriate thread in the Suggestions and Complaints sub-forum. Do not e-mail moderators directly about this.

Sincerely,
- Azmodes, Encyclopaedia Metallum


Here there are the songs samplers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Evti28c1BIU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNOI0G5puwc

Also de official facebook page of the label, Cvlminis which made 40 pieces of Pro CDr in DVD Box, as you can seen here:

http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Ro ... lit/399814

https://www.facebook.com/CVLMINIS

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =1&theater

Thanks!

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:16 am 
 

yentass wrote:
Can a mod give Unfold's latest album a spin and see if it might be deemed metal enough?

Will check soon.

Terrion666 wrote:
Hi! I recieves this e-mail rejecting Suicide Movement by the following reason:

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Sorry Terrion666, Encyclopaedia Metallum was forced to reject your submission for the band Suicide Movement (Spain), for the following reason:

Please provide song samples, or at the very least, a detailed description of the music by a trustworthy third-party (such as a zine or reviewer site).

If you want to object to this rejection, please do so in the appropriate thread in the Suggestions and Complaints sub-forum. Do not e-mail moderators directly about this.

Sincerely,
- Azmodes, Encyclopaedia Metallum


Here there are the songs samplers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Evti28c1BIU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNOI0G5puwc

Also de official facebook page of the label, Cvlminis which made 40 pieces of Pro CDr in DVD Box, as you can seen here:

http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Ro ... lit/399814

https://www.facebook.com/CVLMINIS

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =1&theater

Thanks!

Neither of those songs is on the split. Unless they are featured on any other releases, we need to listen to the two tracks on the split.
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Rens theNAME
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 6:55 pm 
 

Hi guys,

First of all: keep up the good work!

Question: can you maybe unblock the Dutch metal band theNAME?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QJL-SGxmBo

The band is signed with V2 Records and the official category on iTunes and Google Play is: metal.
Thanks dudes!

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Zodijackyl
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:10 pm 
 

theNAME sounds like a nu-metal version of Evanescence. This is not metal.

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Viral
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:32 pm 
 

Why was Black Crown Initiate blacklisted? They pretty much sound like Opeth, but with more of an emphasis on the extreme metal side of their sound. I think they should be reconsidered:

http://blackcrowninitiate.bandcamp.com/
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:51 pm 
 

Rens theNAME wrote:
the official category on iTunes and Google Play is: metal.


Like that's supposed to mean anything. :roll:
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Terrion666
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Azmodes wrote:
Neither of those songs is on the split. Unless they are featured on any other releases, we need to listen to the two tracks on the split.


Ok, I'll find to post here and submit the band

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:26 am 
 

Viral wrote:
Why was Black Crown Initiate blacklisted? They pretty much sound like Opeth, but with more of an emphasis on the extreme metal side of their sound. I think they should be reconsidered:

http://blackcrowninitiate.bandcamp.com/

I quote, blacklist note: "Spacey, atmospheric prog/post-rock sections contrasted harshly by deathcore breakdowns. Seems like this band is either clean, ambient guitars, or chugga chugga groove breakdowns, not so much metal." Brought up before too.
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unicron666
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:13 am 
 

my submitted band got blacklisted because apparently it wasnt a metal band so i added more music links to prove it was but it wont let me resubmit what do i do??

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:26 am 
 

unicron666 wrote:
my submitted band got blacklisted because apparently it wasnt a metal band so i added more music links to prove it was but it wont let me resubmit what do i do??

This is clearly the kind of melodic hardcore-based stuff we don't accept. You yourself wrote "hardcore" in the genre field, as opposed to a metal genre.
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unicron666
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 12:29 am 
 

hardcore is still metal though....

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Yayattasa
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 1:27 am 
 

unicron666 wrote:
hardcore is still metal though....


Definitively not. Hardcore is a derivative of punk rock.
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yentass
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 8:34 am 
 

unicron666 wrote:
hardcore is still metal though....

...Wha-a? Hardcore is hardcore. Metal is metal. These are entirely separate genres.
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AlddiHagg
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 10:31 am 
 

Hi there,

I added a band called Lorna Shore it got rejected, because according to the guidelines this band doesn't have a valid release. But they released three EPs which are all available on Itunes one is also available as CD in their Bigcartel, the only problem is all these EPs are not longer than 20 minutes. They are all around 18-19 minutes.

Is there a possibility of bending the rules a little??

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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 10:47 am 
 

unicron666 wrote:
hardcore is still metal though....

Did I just...

No, I... I did just read that.

What the hell are you smoking, dude? Give me your supplier's number, stat.

AlddiHagg wrote:
Hi there,

I added a band called Lorna Shore it got rejected, because according to the guidelines this band doesn't have a valid release. But they released three EPs which are all available on Itunes one is also available as CD in their Bigcartel, the only problem is all these EPs are not longer than 20 minutes. They are all around 18-19 minutes.

Is there a possibility of bending the rules a little??

Aldi, that band shouldn't have been rejected if they're selling CDs. Please resubmit your band and be sure to include *links* to the iTunes store AND the BigCartel page in your draft's submission notes. Thank you. :)
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AlddiHagg
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 11:03 am 
 

Alhadis wrote:
AlddiHagg wrote:
Hi there,

I added a band called Lorna Shore it got rejected, because according to the guidelines this band doesn't have a valid release. But they released three EPs which are all available on Itunes one is also available as CD in their Bigcartel, the only problem is all these EPs are not longer than 20 minutes. They are all around 18-19 minutes.

Is there a possibility of bending the rules a little??

Aldi, that band shouldn't have been rejected if they're selling CDs. Please resubmit your band and be sure to include *links* to the iTunes store AND the BigCartel page in your draft's submission notes. Thank you. :)



Thanks dude,
I tried but now the band is blacklisted, wft??

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Metantoine
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 11:06 am 
 

It was blacklisted because it was considered more core than metal.
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 11:10 am 
 

Seems like the wrong message was sent by mistake. I've asked the mod who rejected them to comment here.
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One Too Many Camel was rejected on the basis that it was not metal.

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AlddiHagg
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 11:14 am 
 

Metantoine wrote:
It was blacklisted because it was considered more core than metal.


Really??
I mean Whitechapel and Thy Art is Murder are on here, too. Lorna Shore aren't really more core than those two.

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Wilkun
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 11:58 am 
 

Can I ask for a re-hearing StormLand. Was rejected as not enough metal.
"XIII +" is their newest material. Much more metal in my opinion.

http://www.reverbnation.com/stormland4

https://soundcloud.com/stormlandspb

Thank You.

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Razorhog
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 12:18 pm 
 

My submission for the band called "The Isolation Process" was rejected. The reason was "The samples on Amazon don't really demonstrate that this is a predominantly metal album. Could you provide more of the album?" They are a new band and don't have much streaming online, but they do have one song available for streaming. The link is below. I've also linked to some reviews of the album from metal review sites.


http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/the-is ... streaming/

http://www.angrymetalguy.com/isolation- ... ss-review/

http://www.metal-temple.com/site/catalo ... rocess.htm

Do I need to resubmit with this additional info?


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Yayattasa
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 12:31 pm 
 

Metantoine wrote:
I've found a new sig!


DAMN, I was looking forward to put it as my sig :(
Well, at least I won't need to rearrange it.
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Arkhane wrote:
Damn, I thought this thread was headed for closure. Good save, whoever saved it but I'm too lazy to scroll up right now.

oh my god people disagreed on something for several pages stop the presses

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Zodijackyl
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 2:55 pm 
 

AlddiHagg wrote:
Hi there,

I added a band called Lorna Shore it got rejected, because according to the guidelines this band doesn't have a valid release. But they released three EPs which are all available on Itunes one is also available as CD in their Bigcartel, the only problem is all these EPs are not longer than 20 minutes. They are all around 18-19 minutes.

Is there a possibility of bending the rules a little??


Sorry, I made a mistake and selected the wrong message. The band isn't metal, it's deathcore, well on the hardcore side.

Razorhog wrote:
My submission for the band called "The Isolation Process" was rejected. The reason was "The samples on Amazon don't really demonstrate that this is a predominantly metal album. Could you provide more of the album?" They are a new band and don't have much streaming online, but they do have one song available for streaming. The link is below. I've also linked to some reviews of the album from metal review sites.


http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/the-is ... streaming/

http://www.angrymetalguy.com/isolation- ... ss-review/

http://www.metal-temple.com/site/catalo ... rocess.htm

Do I need to resubmit with this additional info?


It's difficult to say if they're metal based on one full song because the samples of several of the songs didn't seem metal at all, and this song isn't metal. We generally avoid relying on reviews, especially from sites like those. I'm certainly not convinced by seeing "Alternative Metal", Deftones, Tool, A Perfect Circle, and Lacuna Coil.

In this case, I wouldn't accept the album based on the material that is available, but I wouldn't blacklist it because I haven't heard a significant amount of the album.

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