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Enigmatic Infinity
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 2:26 am 
 

Greetings!

My band (Enigmatic Infinity) got rejected today because "it's not metal". I know the reason of your decision: my bad, I wrote "progressive rock/progressive metal" as a genre. Well, my music is like 95% metal and 5% as rock elements, so it should be considered as metal. Dream Theater/Opeth/Pain of Salvation/etc. are on this page, and they have these elements too, so I can't see any other reasons for rejecting Enigmatic Infinity. If you don't believe me, feel free to listen to my album, and decide if it's metal or not.

Awaiting your answer, regards:

Nándor Tombor

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Krister Jensen
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 3:28 am 
 

Why was Mysterious Forest (Ukraine) blacklisted?

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theunrelentingattack
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 6:11 am 
 

Re: mysterious forest, april of 2015 for being as much ambient/shoegaze as metal. Anything new since that point?

Re: Enigmatic Infinity. We never blacklist a band just off the genre, we always listen to the music and multiple mods felt the band was more rock than metal.

Re: Candida Albicans - yes, of course we all like all 111000 bands in here. Sigh. We don't compare bands so as explained a million times before, we evaluate the band on it's own merits and some mods found it to be non-metallic grind. Sorry man, that's the end of it.
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 6:13 am 
 

KKWulf wrote:
Is not metal? so it is the same music as Semen From Mexico or Machetazo From Spain... Why that is metal for you?

I do not understand... Do you let get in some band you like and the bands does not like reject?

Obviously I will play the same music; I just support my band with this page.. but if you do not like.....

"The words kills with made"

I did not listen to it, but according to Derigin (who rejected it) it's noise-based grindcore, which we do not accept. We require bands playing hybrid/mixed genres such as grindcore to be firmly on the metal side of the spectrum, i.e. utilise metal-style riffing. Obviously personal taste has no bearing on it, surely you see how stupid that argument is (of course, we still get it all the time; even though it would imply that moderators like 110,000+ bands and hate the rest, I mean have you heard some of the stuff we list? :P There's bad metal, great non-metal, and vice versa.). Lastly, this is a neutral database, not a promotional site, so while an entry may come with added promotional benefits for the band, this is neither our job nor intention.

Enigmatic Infinity wrote:
Greetings!

My band (Enigmatic Infinity) got rejected today because "it's not metal". I know the reason of your decision: my bad, I wrote "progressive rock/progressive metal" as a genre. Well, my music is like 95% metal and 5% as rock elements, so it should be considered as metal. Dream Theater/Opeth/Pain of Salvation/etc. are on this page, and they have these elements too, so I can't see any other reasons for rejecting Enigmatic Infinity. If you don't believe me, feel free to listen to my album, and decide if it's metal or not.

Awaiting your answer, regards:

Nándor Tombor

At least two moderators (one of them me) disagree, I didn't hear much, if any metal riffing. And obviously we did listen to the album.
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Enigmatic Infinity
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 6:45 am 
 

Azmodes wrote:
I didn't hear much, if any metal riffing.


I find this kinda hilarious. Did you listened the right record? If those riffs aren't metal riffs, then I don't know what is. There are so many bands here with "less-metal-riffs" than mine. Plus a lot of zines and reviews referred my music as progressive metal, but they obviously don't know what they spoke. :)

But I respect your decision, and I'm not even mad, just a bit disappointed because of my music is obnoxious for you guys.

Anyway, best of luck in the future.

Cheers,

Nándor Tombor

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 6:50 am 
 

Nobody said "obnoxious". But yeah, we're going to have to agree to disagree here. Those reviewers you speak of are free to refer to your music however they see fit. As are we, on this our site.

Thanks for respecting the decision.
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KKWulf
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:03 am 
 

Hey please come on Azmodes, Watch it again, is just for genre; I changed it, I was wrong; Give another chance to check it and accept it if it is the case....

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PaganiusI
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 10:29 am 
 

Could someone re-listen to Lacvstre? They're just as much Metal as any other Ambient Black Metal band that ever got accepted on this side, but somehow they got rejected for being "Ambient".

https://lacvstre.bandcamp.com/releases

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Derigin
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 10:50 am 
 

The first two tracks are ambient and last track is BM. Not predominantly metal.
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PaganiusI
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:53 pm 
 

They're both becoming metalish after about 2 mins.
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Derigin
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 1:15 pm 
 

Are you suggesting that we didn't bother to listen to more than two minutes for each track?
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Metantoine
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 1:18 pm 
 

"metalish"


Yeaaaaah ok. We're not the Metalish Archives.
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PaganiusI
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 1:21 pm 
 

I just know what I hear. There clearly are Atmospheric BM-Riffs for more than 2/3 of the EP.
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RazorDick
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 2:55 pm 
 

Yes the cassette of From the Sewer is everything that they have released digitally.

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TYRANNUS_AFDTD
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Joined: Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:35 pm
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Location: Spain
PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 1:45 am 
 

Encyclopaedia Metallum reject my release Liturgia Maleficarum (United Kingdom), for the following reason:

1- Distributed in physical form (CD, CDr, DVD, tape, vinyl, etc)
yes is available CD format on my blog store: http://afinedaytodierecords.8merch.com/services/store

2- Digital and available for full download: uploaded on my bandcamp page running time 70 minutes
https://afinedaytodierecords.bandcamp.c ... totus-tuus

3- Already released. That is, no upcoming releases!: yes is released CD format attached some pics
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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 3:04 am 
 

Looks like the band is blacklisted for being primarily ambient, so it has nothing to do with proof of distribution.

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RazorDick
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 3:50 am 
 

I thought I had replied but I don't see my post anywhere. Yes, the cassette has the songs that are on the From the Sewer Bandcamp page.

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~Guest 368187
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Joined: Fri Sep 04, 2015 11:16 pm
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 5:54 pm 
 

Why is Drowning Hope blacklisted?
http://drowninghope.bandcamp.com/album/ ... o-darkness

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Derigin
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 6:13 pm 
 

It was blacklisted in 2015 as "dark ambient." Given that new album, I've removed it from the blacklist. Feel free to resubmit.
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~Guest 368187
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 6:23 pm 
 

Submitted, thanks Derigin!

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Antioch
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:05 pm 
 

Derigin, the CD is on the photo, dude. Bottom right corner. It's a digifile, and pretty well-made. Those are two CDs right there--one being upside down.
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Proof of distribution is underneath:
http://bandzone.cz/_95510
The artist gave his email address, accepting orders. He even speaks of a repress and another project, ending the statement by the fact that the CDs aren't that expensive.

As for the release year, I understand. If you're not comfortable with it, delete the album, and keep the band... or maybe change the date to 2015. That should work. ;)
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Derigin
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:10 pm 
 

Hmm, the mix-up with dates is concerning, but alright, go ahead and resubmit it.
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Antioch
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:18 pm 
 

Done.
I'll send him an email to verify.
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thefireyfrog
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:02 am 
 

Why has the band Ænimus (United States) been blacklisted? I searched to see why but nothing showed up.

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Ilya K
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:48 am 
 

You haven't replied to my request, so I write again:

Could you please reconsider banning 浊世 (Mortal World)? It's post-black/ambient metal and you have many bands like this on MA. Their CD has been released by Pest Productions which mainly specialises in black metal.
http://pestproductions.bandcamp.com/alb ... rtal-world

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theunrelentingattack
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 6:29 am 
 

thefireyfrog wrote:
Why has the band Ænimus (United States) been blacklisted? I searched to see why but nothing showed up.


Too djent and -core.
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PDS
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 3:26 pm 
 

Ilya K wrote:
You haven't replied to my request, so I write again:

Could you please reconsider banning 浊世 (Mortal World)? It's post-black/ambient metal and you have many bands like this on MA. Their CD has been released by Pest Productions which mainly specialises in black metal.
http://pestproductions.bandcamp.com/alb ... rtal-world


We have bands here of a similar genre yes, this band is more ambient/post-rock than black metal.
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Eternalfire666
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 7:53 pm 
 

My band Suffer(Brazil) was blacklisted but don't disagree with any rule. How can i resolve this?

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thefireyfrog
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 8:02 pm 
 

theunrelentingattack wrote:
Too djent and -core.


What's the problem with djent?

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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 8:40 pm 
 

Eternalfire666 wrote:
My band Suffer(Brazil) was blacklisted but don't disagree with any rule. How can i resolve this?


Start writing metal songs.
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theunrelentingattack
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 8:13 am 
 

thefireyfrog wrote:
theunrelentingattack wrote:
Too djent and -core.


What's the problem with djent?


We don't accept djent bands. Please do read the rules on acceptable vs. unacceptable genres on this site.

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flesheatingdisease
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 1:43 pm 
 

You guys probably know more about metal than me but the band Xenophobic Misogynist was rejected for being "goregrind" when I put the genre as Brutal Death metal. In retrospect I think they are Brutal death metal/goregrind but not just goregrind. Goregrind is acceptable on the website anyway so I think he/them should be re-evaluated if you wouldn't mind.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... 579430CC3F

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Antioch
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:24 pm 
 

Derigin wrote:
Hmm, the mix-up with dates is concerning, but alright, go ahead and resubmit it.

Just ordered two copies at €5 a piece. Everything checks out.
As for the date, it'd been unfinished business till last year... shelved stuff from 1996.
We're good. ;)
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OpsiusCato
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:34 pm 
 

mrmetalhead wrote:
(...) the band Xenophobic Misogynist was rejected for being "goregrind" when I put the genre as Brutal Death metal (...)

Well, Goregrind is a hybrid genre that can either be Metal-based or non-metal-based. Seems like the situation with this band you mention is that it falls in the unacceptable side of the Goregrind spectrum. Wait until there's a new release that is actually Metal-based and then ask for a reevaluation.
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KKWulf
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:39 pm 
 

Could someone re-listen to Candida Albicans? I changed genre, I was wrong; check it again...

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:43 pm 
 

The music was already assessed. Changing the genre obviously won't influence that.
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KKWulf
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 5:53 pm 
 

So it means, my band will not be available on MA?

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theunrelentingattack
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 6:10 pm 
 

KKWulf wrote:
So it means, my band will not be available on MA?


That's correct. That was already explained to you above. You don't have to agree but it's time to drop it and stop asking. We've provided a final answer at this point. Thanks.
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KKWulf
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 6:27 pm 
 

F.O.A.D. :D

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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 6:36 pm 
 

KKWulf wrote:
F.O.A.D. :D


You too! :thumbsup:
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