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TheStormIRide
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:24 pm 
 

xxld1k wrote:
...From the Deep are blacklisted. It could be because their demo wasn't physically released but they just released their debut EP, The Absurd Horror, which can be purchased physically. I think it's has a Dark Death Metal sound and some pretty great black metal sections. They riff pretty hard and tremolo. Unblacklist?

http://fromthedeepband.bandcamp.com/alb ... urd-horror


Actually the band is blacklisted for being djent.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:32 pm 
 

TheStormIRide wrote:
xxld1k wrote:
...From the Deep are blacklisted. It could be because their demo wasn't physically released but they just released their debut EP, The Absurd Horror, which can be purchased physically. I think it's has a Dark Death Metal sound and some pretty great black metal sections. They riff pretty hard and tremolo. Unblacklist?

http://fromthedeepband.bandcamp.com/alb ... urd-horror


Actually the band is blacklisted for being djent.


I mean i guess there was a few sections that had the "djent" "tone" but I can see that being due to it's modern production. They've played with Incantation the other day and I feel their influence.

Do you blacklist a band for being ambient if only 5% of their music is ambient and the rest is black metal?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:56 pm 
 

xxld1k wrote:
Do you blacklist a band for being ambient if only 5% of their music is ambient and the rest is black metal?


No, we don't. That would be ludicrous and wasn't what he was suggesting.

Whether or not the band was rightfully blacklisted (which occurred in 2012) based on the demo no longer matters, because this seems acceptable to me. The guitar tone is djenty, but the riffing is a whole lot of things - mostly metal in any event. Resubmit.
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Of_This_Night36
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:17 pm 
 

Of_This_Night36 wrote:
I would like to make a case for HB getting taken off the blacklist. I believe their album Piiki Lihassa is metal enough for what this site's standards seem to be. There are a few symphonic songs thrown in, but that's no different than what Dol Ammad's debut did, or what Haggard's first two albums (the only ones they released when they were accepted) did.

Album: Piiki Lihassa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pa9O8xysbg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DviiWP8LW0M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGptGnBmlWg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oE4iKZVfy7A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGffwy_HXME (symphonic/ballad)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8LoBxcLIKw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGZ2rX7HE2M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTZUhSbHnAs (symphonic/ballad)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWd55LZw1Ig
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8cT1afeImQ (symphonic/ballad)

Seeing that we're already a few posts into the new page - just a reminder that ^ is still awaiting moderator review.
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Picknick1970
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 9:45 am 
 

Poorly made, your site is not particularly user friendly, i will try again :(

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:11 am 
 

You mean Lucifix? This has nothing to do with being user-friendly, you simply didn't provide any of the required proof.
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Voidhanger2
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 12:46 pm 
 

I know CLAUSTROPHOBIA from China were rejected before (not my submission), but does that still stand? Seems silly; band is very much in line with other depressive BM bands.

I remember reading on here somewhere that the guitars "didn't do much," but I think that can be attributed more so to the synth drowning them out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cil-LdCDA9Y

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 3:32 pm 
 

again, (mostly) out of curiosity, why were divideD (hungary) rejected?

on a sidenote, all the members are already on the archives (in other bands), if someone wants to bin the divideD aliases profiles...
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 3:40 pm 
 

aloof wrote:
again, (mostly) out of curiosity, why were divideD (hungary) rejected?

on a sidenote, all the members are already on the archives (in other bands), if someone wants to bin the divideD aliases profiles...

"Electro Pop-rock"

Of_This_Night36 wrote:
I would like to make a case for HB getting taken off the blacklist. I believe their album Piiki Lihassa is metal enough for what this site's standards seem to be. There are a few symphonic songs thrown in, but that's no different than what Dol Ammad's debut did, or what Haggard's first two albums (the only ones they released when they were accepted) did.

Album: Piiki Lihassa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pa9O8xysbg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DviiWP8LW0M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGptGnBmlWg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oE4iKZVfy7A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGffwy_HXME (symphonic/ballad)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8LoBxcLIKw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGZ2rX7HE2M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTZUhSbHnAs (symphonic/ballad)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWd55LZw1Ig
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8cT1afeImQ (symphonic/ballad)

This is pretty light, but I'd lean yes.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 4:00 pm 
 

thanks :)
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Of_This_Night36
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 8:25 pm 
 

Azmodes wrote:
This is pretty light, but I'd lean yes.

So, just to be sure, I am good to submit them now?
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Metantoine
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 8:35 pm 
 

Of_This_Night36 wrote:
Azmodes wrote:
This is pretty light, but I'd lean yes.

So, just to be sure, I am good to submit them now?

Well, wait a bit but it seems metal enough based on these tracks.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 9:08 am 
 

HB can now be submitted.
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Ultralazuli
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2015 4:44 am 
 

My submission for Imbroglio was denied due to "Not a metal band."

I feel this is inaccurate. Though part of their sound derives from hardcore-influenced bands and genres, I feel like their releases, especially recent ones, are certainly in the sludge metal and grindcore genres, a sound similar to Gaza, The Abominable Iron Sloth, Car Bomb, Armed For Apocalypse, and Burnt by the Sun, which (I believe) are already listed here.

This was on their most recent LP, "The Struggle in Pursuit"

This is from their 2nd most recent LP, "Declared Self-Hatred"

From the album before that, "Sleep Deprivation" with a different lineup

Is it that the band is comprised of multiple vocalists?

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2015 9:26 am 
 

Still sounds more based in hardcore to me (only the first video works for me, though).

Ultralazuli wrote:
Is it that the band is comprised of multiple vocalists?

...why would that have anything to do with it? :scratch:
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2015 3:58 pm 
 

Deadly Noise Crew is blacklisted, but I guess that the initial submission was made before their latest release, which is grindcore instead the old crust style of the first demos:

http://mvgre.bandcamp.com/album/todos-los-colores-van-al-negro-ep

This EP has a physical release: http://i.imgur.com/mRZvE6D.jpg

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Ultralazuli
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2015 10:34 pm 
 

Azmodes wrote:
Still sounds more based in hardcore to me (only the first video works for me, though).

Ultralazuli wrote:
Is it that the band is comprised of multiple vocalists?

...why would that have anything to do with it? :scratch:


http://imbroglio666.bandcamp.com/ could try that, all of their albums are listed there.

I don't see what makes this band more hardcore than metal.

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mbicca
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 5:50 am 
 

Hi Guys,

Sorry to bother you all, I noticed one of the bands I submitted was rejected, the reason, the EP released being under 20 minutes; however I did read the rules and it states that 1 or 2 EP's should be good, unless of course it's cover material or some other stuff.

They are 3 actual songs, officially from the band, is there any way I could get it reviewed again please? :) The band is active, playing and so on.

Please, let me know if you guys might need any additional information. The band's name is Shaylon.

Thank you!

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:05 am 
 

Heh, don't you mean your band? Xp

Yeah, the EP is still too short for a digital release. To clarify on the one or two EPs, it mainly pertains if the band releases multiple EPs that don't add up to 30 minutes. Like a band with 2 EPs, one 6 minute and one 12 minute won't get in, a band with two EPs that add up to or over 30 minutes will get accepted. While the actual acceptance based on minutes is via mod discretion, (accepting bands in the twenty minute range and so on). Any 18 minute EP band accepted is usually added by a mod.

The release is professionally mixed enough and it is metal, I can't speak for Diamhea, but I think the rejection was more based on the ballady third track, which is more of a ballady symphonic rock track. (Nitpicky, but we are more critical when it comes to digital releases). Basically, you are free to submit again if the EP gets a physical release (not like 10 CD-Rs) or when there is another non-single release. Remember: Don't let us being on the site dictate what your band does, like writing and recording more songs / spending more money just to get on here. Just continue what you are doing and things will eventually come to pass. Just make sure to post on this forum about the band and a link for a new or physical release and you'll get the go ahead.
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BlackMetalGirl wrote:
It's good to see Cripple Bastards finally on the archive!!! :)



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Why was Fit For a King (USA) blacklisted?
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MetalCuresHeadaches wrote:
Why was Fit For a King (USA) blacklisted?


"Hot Topic Christian-core"
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NergalBM
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 7:34 pm 
 

Good evening, and repeatedly tried to publish my band in this portal, twice it has been rejected, but I do not know why, I can intuit, as evidence and submitted my Bandcamp page, needed any more proof? I hope you can help me.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 7:47 pm 
 

NergalBM wrote:
Good evening, and repeatedly tried to publish my band in this portal, twice it has been rejected, but I do not know why, I can intuit, as evidence and submitted my Bandcamp page, needed any more proof? I hope you can help me.

Thank You


As the rejection message says, the band lacks a valid release. There are three individual songs there. For digital-only projects we require a complete, finished release that is ideally at least 20-30 minutes long. All of this is in the rules and rejection message.

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Crossripper
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https://www.reverbnation.com/desecrator ... de-lucifer

https://www.reverbnation.com/page_objec ... d=23272813

it's metalness?

https://www.reverbnation.com/desecratorofevil

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LordThrasher
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 9:53 pm 
 

Zodijackyl wrote:
Remember that time that Metal Blade lobbied for their inclusion on Twitter?

Or that time that Decibel asked BTBAM about not being on the archives and they had never heard of the site?

Please stop arguing for it, anyway. We'll clandestinely confer about a decision for you to complain about next month.


So, have you guys decided yet? I realise the band wasn't added and I read the last few pages of this topic thoroughly but haven't seen an official statement from any mod.

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We had a long discussion about it and even though we haven't reached an official consensus, the latest tally indicates that it's still a "no" and that it's prog rock with hints of metal. I was in the "yes" camp but oh well, the "caution" approach is perhaps the best one with this band, let's wait for another album!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 2:18 am 
 

Hello,
my submission of the band "DEMONDRIVER" (Germany) was rejected because no link to an audiodatei and was present there is no physical evidence of a CD.

Here is the link to the audio: http://metalkrach.de/artist/demondriver/

Here is the link to the video: https://www.facebook.com/DemondriverMetal/videos/529472780529087/

Here is the link to the physical evidence of the CD in photo format:
Spoiler: show
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Spoiler: show
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I hope now DEMONDRIVER can be added.
And you can now hear that this is Heavy Metal ...;)

Greetings from Raaschi


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Talladega
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 3:53 am 
 

Hi, I've submitted a band called Gasoline Guns. But submition was rejected: "a band needs a valid release". Here is a photographic evidence: http://i.imgur.com/Uebm0ui.jpg?1
Here is a review of this demo: http://www.speed-n-power.com/review.php?did=15147

Regards! :)

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MDL
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 2:52 pm 
 

Why is this band blacklisted?:
http://entheosofficial.bandcamp.com/releases

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 3:34 pm 
 

LordThrasher wrote:
So, have you guys decided yet? I realise the band wasn't added and I read the last few pages of this topic thoroughly but haven't seen an official statement from any mod.

Metantoine wrote:
We had a long discussion about it and even though we haven't reached an official consensus, the latest tally indicates that it's still a "no" and that it's prog rock with hints of metal. I was in the "yes" camp but oh well, the "caution" approach is perhaps the best one with this band, let's wait for another album!


About this situation and BTBAM, YES, we DID reach a final, official consensus. After a lengthy discussion among the staff, "Coma Ecliptic" was deemed NOT Metal and unacceptable. Metantoine indeed was on the "yes" camp, as he said. I suspect he may have missed the final count in which clear consensus has been reached.

So, LordThrasher, this is a final, official statement from a mod, based on a clear consesus reached by the staff. BTBAM are still NOT acceptable.
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MDL666 wrote:
Why is this band blacklisted?:
http://entheosofficial.bandcamp.com/releases

Blacklisted in March this year for being non-metallic djent.
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Black Heath Coven was rejected for their debut (http://blackheathcoven.bandcamp.com/) being more Drone/Noise than Doom metal. They have released a second tape, but aside from a 62 second clip at http://beartownrecords.com/catalogue.html, I can find no samples. There are reviews of the tape at https://radiofreemidwich.wordpress.com/ ... n-and-yol/ and https://houseabovetheworld.wordpress.co ... on-lounge/ for the second demo, and while I feel like it's a long shot as far as evidence, I figured I'd try and see if they can be resubmitted based on said reviews.
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No, reviews are definitely not enough and these two are far from convincing anyhow. Maybe you could try to contact them and state that you'd like to add them to MA but that you need to hear the 2nd album, maybe they'll help you, maybe not but it's worth a try. In the meantime, the status quo is the way to go.
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No, reviews are definitely not enough and these two are far from convincing anyhow.


Yeah, I figured it was a long shot. I'm actually gonna go ahead and throw this one into the "More Info Needed" thread in the subforum, for anyone who wants to take the gamble on purchasing the second tape or trying their luck with contacting the band.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 3:34 am 
 

Raaschi wrote:
Hello,
my submission of the band "DEMONDRIVER" (Germany) was rejected because no link to an audiodatei and was present there is no physical evidence of a CD.

Here is the link to the audio: http://metalkrach.de/artist/demondriver/

Here is the link to the video: https://www.facebook.com/DemondriverMetal/videos/529472780529087/

Here is the link to the physical evidence of the CD in photo format:
Spoiler: show
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Spoiler: show
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I hope now DEMONDRIVER can be added.
And you can now hear that this is Heavy Metal ...;)

Greetings from Raaschi


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MDL
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 4:10 pm 
 

Hello there, I will not request for the exclusion of any band, I'm just here to advice some errors in those bands that were blacklisted.
For example, the band Jinjer, I believe that the one you blacklisted is a female-fronted metalcore band, right? That band is listed as having its origins on USA, but actually, they're from Ukraine.
At a long time ago, one of the bands that i submitted, GMT, was also blacklisted and it is said to be a german band, but they are from UK, I forgot to correct my mistake before the submission.
It is possible to correct such a thing?

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OpsiusCato
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 4:51 pm 
 

Well, both Ukranian Jinjer and gringo Jinjer are blacklisted for being -core bands. And both GMT bands, from Germany and the UK are blacklisted for being AOR. The same day. Are you implying you tried to circumvent the blacklist?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 5:20 pm 
 

Nope, I just checked Jinjer (because I thought it could be acceptable) and GMT, because i remember that I sent a report after the submission to correct the country selection.

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OpsiusCato
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 5:57 pm 
 

Well, then it's settled. Both bands are unacceptable.
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