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theunrelentingattack
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 6:39 pm 
 

Jesus Fix won't be whitelisted on the basis of the new record. That's rock based for most - punk on a track or two but not predominantly metal. Sorry.
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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 7:22 pm 
 

aaauuuuu wrote:
Didn't know if Extreme Decay is already asked by another user, still not found the moderator's answer.
The old full length albums (include split albums) (2000-2004) are not metal/grindcore punk for me

But there's latest album "Holocaust Resistance (2010)" which somewhat different
Check their full albums (2010) -> https://www.mediafire.com/folder/lj343k ... Decay_2010
CD -> http://shop.omuniuum.net/cd-musik/cd-ex ... resistance
Although grindcore, I think it's metal enough now. What do you think? Still pure grind/punk?

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try listen to Extreme Decay new album, I think is metal enough..
here's the download link for preview https://www.mediafire.com/folder/lj343k ... Decay_2010

Yeah... erh, sorry guys, there's still too much punk influence in the music. I can hear the metallic influences you're referring to, but they're pretty much simply that - influences. The rest of the music is still heavily crust/grind, and even the metallic sections are borderline. Sorry... good stuff, though. ;)

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MegaMcTaco
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:12 pm 
 

So is Espionage good now? Still says I can't submit it...

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 10:59 pm 
 

I’m wondering whether Ancient VVisdom might be acceptable on the archives by now or not. Their last record “Sacrificial” could be described as doom metal à la Black Sabbath with Occult rock influences in the key of Blue Oyster Cult and an atmopshere in the key of King Diamond. Their new sound is also comparable to Ghost B.C. and the likes. This is a departure from their more acoustic-driven first releases. Here are a few songs to support my thesis:




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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 11:27 pm 
 

kluseba wrote:
I’m wondering whether Ancient VVisdom might be acceptable on the archives by now or not.


Sounds like rock to me.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 11:36 pm 
 

Yep, it's occult grunge or something. That's not doom metal at all, dude.
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Okay, thanks for your opinions.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:11 am 
 

MegaMcTaco wrote:
So is Espionage good now? Still says I can't submit it...


Nope - you've shown a picture of one CD and a link to a digital download on bandcamp - and the digital version is too short to be considered a valid release. Reply with a link directly showing us where someone can buy the CD, then I'll whitelist it.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 6:33 am 
 

Hi,

Deuil (Belgium) has been blacklisted and reviewed back in 2013. Could this please be reviewed again, especially considering the band's latest efforts: https://deuil.bandcamp.com/album/acceptance-rebuild

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Tamerlan Gemini
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 6:58 am 
 

Hello,

My project Tamerlan was rejected, for the reason of not being metal, which is reasonable.
I can't, however, agree with the remark that my project doesn't meet the possible criteria for the inclusion here. While the genre of it is indeed dark folk/acoustic, there are several reasons for which I wanted to include the project here:

-I was (and still am) active in the bands that play metal. If we are talking about bands that are presented here, those are Navrog, Parahelia, and recently included The Hell. Also, I was active as a guest member for Kawir's last album (on every song).

-While Navrog and Parahelia are no longer active, The Hell still is, and I am active with it.

-My latest album was released by Debemur Morti Productions, which is predominantly metal label. Apart from that, it has a worldwide distribution (I trust that I don't need to introduce the bands from the roster of such label).

-For this exact project, I have collaborated with the members of Arcana, Crypt Of Kerberos and Sophia (all three included on this website).

-I have created the covers for Burzum - Die Liebe Nerthus and Amorphis - Black Winter Day. The latter was even supported by the band itself.

So, I am sorry, but if you are planning to reject my project, taking in the account the notes listed above, please provide the better reason than "does not belong".
Thank you.

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Derigin
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It doesn't matter if you have other projects that play metal or if you're associated with other metal acts (ie. "I toured/worked with a metal band/label!"), the only thing that matters is whether the project you're submitting - on its own merits - has at least one predominantly metal release. With the few exceptions I'm going to outline below, we do not accept bands unless they have released a metal album.

There are a few exceptions, but they are very rare and hardly ever added anymore. We have accepted some non-metal side-projects of notable metal musicians on the condition that the side-project has listenership/an audience among metalheads that may imply the project's own universal notability among metalheads. For example, a non-metal side-project of Rob Halford or Ronnie James Dio - both widely notable metal musicians - would for most metalheads be an intrinsic part of the metal scene. Likewise, we have also accepted some non-metal projects because they have historical relevance as belonging to and leaving an impact on the metal scene. Les Légions Noires is one of these rare exceptions because of its historical impact on metal. Although this is debatable because in many ways it's arbitrary and at the discretion of the staff, almost every project or band that we feel should be made exceptions have long ago been added. The vast majority of which, including the LLN projects, were added over 10 years ago. The idea there, at least, is that the historical relevance of those projects to the scene was already well-apparent when Metal Archives began its existence in 2002.

So going back to your band. I admit I haven't looked into it - I wasn't the one who rejected it - but your band wont be accepted as an exception.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 1:50 pm 
 

Metantoine wrote:
Yep, it's occult grunge or something. That's not doom metal at all, dude.

I feel compelled to strongly second this after listening to the two tracks linked. Not doom metal. At. All. Or metal, for that matter.
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Tamerlan Gemini
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Derigin wrote:
It doesn't matter if you have other projects that play metal or if you're associated with other metal acts (ie. "I toured/worked with a metal band/label!"), the only thing that matters is whether the project you're submitting - on its own merits - has at least one predominantly metal release. With the few exceptions I'm going to outline below, we do not accept bands unless they have released a metal album.

There are a few exceptions, but they are very rare and hardly ever added anymore. We have accepted some non-metal side-projects of notable metal musicians on the condition that the side-project has listenership/an audience among metalheads that may imply the project's own universal notability among metalheads. For example, a non-metal side-project of Rob Halford or Ronnie James Dio - both widely notable metal musicians - would for most metalheads be an intrinsic part of the metal scene. Likewise, we have also accepted some non-metal projects because they have historical relevance as belonging to and leaving an impact on the metal scene. Les Légions Noires is one of these rare exceptions because of its historical impact on metal. Although this is debatable because in many ways it's arbitrary and at the discretion of the staff, almost every project or band that we feel should be made exceptions have long ago been added. The vast majority of which, including the LLN projects, were added over 10 years ago. The idea there, at least, is that the historical relevance of those projects to the scene was already well-apparent when Metal Archives began its existence in 2002.

So going back to your band. I admit I haven't looked into it - I wasn't the one who rejected it - but your band wont be accepted as an exception.


Thank you for the information. However, correct me if I'm wrong, but I see a slight contradiction to the rules listed on the page 1. Mainly this:

A side-project is a band started in parallel to another band. (It was. See http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Navrog/103560)

It is not the same thing as a band member leaving a band and forming a new one, or to join another band. The MA accepts some side-projects of metal band members, the metal band in question must be on MA. (They are: http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Navrog/103560 , http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Par ... 3540323880 , http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/The_Hell/3540395795 )

The side-project must be on a label with worldwide distribution. It means that the label must have professional distributors who will supply real-life shops with albums, in other words be a big enough label. It is not the same as worldwide shipping, method used by small online labels. (DMP is big enough label fulfilling all the necessary requirements listed above : http://www.debemur-morti.com/en/212-tam ... iscography)

Finally, the side-project rule is not absolute. Not all bands that fulfil its material requirements will be added, particularly if they are adjudged to have minimal connection to the metal culture. (with all the details mentioned before, I wouldn't call my connection to the metal culture "minimal". )

From what I read in the rules above, I really didn't get the impression that a non metal side project will be accepted only if the musician behind it is influential/very famous in metal community, also some other things you have mentioned in your reply. Therefore, kindly adjust the rule on page 1 in order to avoid the confusion.

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jdavidson28
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 4:12 pm 
 

diemexuro wrote:

Stellafera's latest album is undeniably atmospheric black metal. Regardless of the older material's blacklist status, may I suggest reopening his submission, and having another listen? http://youtu.be/ZN8WebZ-JNI



Stellafera - Hypnopopompic departure has a heavy atmospheric black metal sound, I appreciate a rereview and reconsideration for the white list, thank you for your time and handling my request

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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 4:18 pm 
 

Well, that one song you linked certainly isn't a riffless wonder, and sounds quite decent, but we need more than one song to reassess this...
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Tamerlan Gemini wrote:
From what I read in the rules above, I really didn't get the impression that a non metal side project will be accepted only if the musician behind it is influential/very famous in metal community, also some other things you have mentioned in your reply. Therefore, kindly adjust the rule on page 1 in order to avoid the confusion.


We'll clarify that in the future. The rules/guidelines are being slowly rewritten, but the rule in practice requires a high degree of significance.

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jdavidson28
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 1:26 am 
 

Diamhea wrote:
Well, that one song you linked certainly isn't a riffless wonder, and sounds quite decent, but we need more than one song to reassess this...


https://stellaferamusic.bandcamp.com/al ... -departure
Here is a link to the rest of the album that can be viewed in my request for my readmission, thank you for your time and I appreciate it

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Congicate
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 4:43 am 
 

Band Nemesium

You can check them out at http://www.nemesium.com
to make sure they're metal.

Also
https://nemesium.bandcamp.com/releases

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HeavierThanThou
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:46 am 
 

I wanted to submit a band, Spirit Division, but found out it was blacklisted because at the time it was submitted by another user (demon505) it had only a demo and was rejected because there was no proof of physical copy.

The band just released their debut full-length, available both on CD and digital versions available on Bandcamp (https://spiritdivision.bandcamp.com/alb ... t-division) and CD Baby (http://www.cdbaby.com/Artist/SpiritDivision[/url]). Also, there is no doubt regarding their metalness.

I wanted to make sure that I won't be banned for submitting a blacklisted band since now they meet all requirements.

Please relate.

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Azmodes
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Congicate wrote:
Band Nemesium

You can check them out at http://www.nemesium.com
to make sure they're metal.

Also
https://nemesium.bandcamp.com/releases

Resubmit with those links included.

HeavierThanThou wrote:
I wanted to submit a band, Spirit Division, but found out it was blacklisted because at the time it was submitted by another user (demon505) it had only a demo and was rejected because there was no proof of physical copy.

The band just released their debut full-length, available both on CD and digital versions available on Bandcamp (https://spiritdivision.bandcamp.com/alb ... t-division) and CD Baby (http://www.cdbaby.com/Artist/SpiritDivision[/url]). Also, there is no doubt regarding their metalness.

I wanted to make sure that I won't be banned for submitting a blacklisted band since now they meet all requirements.

Please relate.

There actually was evidence for a CD release of the demo, the band was blacklisted because said demo was deemed more rock than metal (I remember it being closer to stuff like Pothead or Clutch). You are correct that this album is metal, though. Removed from the blacklist.
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Why was the band Morvheim rejected? Granted, it's fucking horrible, but definitely metal in my opinion.

http://morvheim.bandcamp.com/album/ever-after
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Hi, Spanner Head was rejected http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Spanner_Head/3540395340, but they are definitiveòy Metal.
Here you can find some songs from their MCD:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNrSFw8MsX0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jStsnxSt4Q4

and here you can find the proof of the physical CD:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10926390_767853696613750_1906425770850162833_n.jpg?oh=18ca70d5051478a034adbf95bb9b0c11&oe=55D9FB76&__gda__=1439846399_7cf65c94afc6c0dcac9a64079243e040

I don't know the tracklist, though.
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Diamhea
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cweed wrote:
Why was the band Morvheim rejected? Granted, it's fucking horrible, but definitely metal in my opinion.

http://morvheim.bandcamp.com/album/ever-after


I agree (on all counts). Resubmit.
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NorseDave wrote:
Hi, Spanner Head was rejected http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Spanner_Head/3540395340, but they are definitiveòy Metal.


Resubmit with these links included.
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Azmodes
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kreuztot wrote:
Hi,

Deuil (Belgium) has been blacklisted and reviewed back in 2013. Could this please be reviewed again, especially considering the band's latest efforts: https://deuil.bandcamp.com/album/acceptance-rebuild

Thanks!

As I remember, that particular release was already considered back then. Numerous mods voted no on that one.
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jdavidson28 wrote:
Diamhea wrote:
Well, that one song you linked certainly isn't a riffless wonder, and sounds quite decent, but we need more than one song to reassess this...


https://stellaferamusic.bandcamp.com/al ... -departure
Here is a link to the rest of the album that can be viewed in my request for my readmission, thank you for your time and I appreciate it


Well, I listened to this thing, and the title track seems to be the only wholly-metal song. Arguably good for what it is, but what it is isn't metal. Sorry.
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Azmodes
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Yeah, this is a pretty clear case. One metal track and the rest ambient/post-rock. That's not a metal release.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 1:18 pm 
 

Azmodes wrote:
Yeah, this is a pretty clear case. One metal track and the rest ambient/post-rock. That's not a metal release.



I really thought the first two songs were metal even though the first was mostly an intro, building everything up but oh well if you don't see it in your opinion. I guess I'll have to try again the next release

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Spiritofmetalover
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Hello.
I have added 2 bands in here, Deduction Of A Miscalculation and Ilumize. Both gets rejected with the reason that there is no releases. I have read the rules and understood them as well, so I dont dont understand why they are rejected?
Ilumize have a digital album and singel out, witch i added, and they are both available for full download at https://ilumize.bandcamp.com/
Deduction Of A Miscalculation have released a physical and and digital demo, both available at https://deductionofamiscalculation.bandcamp.com/ where their digital and soon-to-be physical EP is also is fully availabe. The 2 releases by Deduction Of A Miscalculation are also released on Spotify, Itunes, Google Play and so on.
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Diamhea
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Ilumize doesn't meet the minimum requirements for digital-only bands. Need a valid release around 20 minutes.
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Spiritofmetalover
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Its 16:48 though, so its close, but fair enough.
What about Deduction Of A Miscalculation then?

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Azmodes
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Deduction of a Miscalculation has two short, extremely rough digital demos. Not valid. Neither do we consider a mere 5 physical copies sufficient basis for inclusion.
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The EP (Alonest Of The Alone) is longer than 20:00 minutes though, and none of the albums are "rough" as such - the quality that the songs have is part of the concept of Deduction Of A Miscalculation.

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*shrugs* I see 5 tracks clocking in at less than 20 minutes on Bandcamp. We are not simply playing a numbers game anyway, it's still all around too makeshift to factor into the equation. Wait until there is a (sizeable) physical release or at the very least another digital one.
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If you look at the album on here, there are 6 tracks as there is also a bonus track you cannot see on bandcamp unless you buy it.

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Azmodes
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Alright, there's 6 tracks then.
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- clocking in at more than 20:00 minutes. I may be the stupid one, i dont know, but i honestly dont see why its not allowed on? Im not trying to argue or anything, im merely trying to understand

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Spiritofmetalover wrote:
- clocking in at more than 20:00 minutes. I may be the stupid one, i dont know, but i honestly dont see why its not allowed on? Im not trying to argue or anything, im merely trying to understand

Frankly put, on top of the lackluster amount of material, the currently available releases sound like bedroom demos. Not professional recordings, which is the norm for valid digital releases; ideally full-lengths, closer to 30 than 20 minutes, as mentioned in the rules. We can pussyfoot around it all day, but the fact of the matter is that this doesn't cut muster. The ridiculous limitation of the CD "release" isn't helping matters either.

We are not unreasonable in our requirements when it comes to actual releases, if a project is serious it shouldn't be much of a problem to meet them.
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Whether you are reasonable on your requirements is a matter of opinion id say, but rules be rules and i honestly dont feel like starting an argument about them, as i know it wont really change anything.
Thanks for your reply, have a good whatever-it-is-in-your-timezone.

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Come on, this is literally in the rules.

"Unprofessional BS such as "Promo Tape limited to 5 copies", "Promo CD-R limited to 10 copies", etc., are not going to fly. We actually prefer serious digital releases (see below "Valid Digital Releases") over garage/bedroom amateurism."

"No rehearsals, raw promos, rough mixes of any kinds are accepted for digital releases. Only finished, professional albums."

"Length of material: The album must be a full-length. There is no hard-defined cut-off, as that would be arbitrary: a good guideline, however, would be roughly 30 minutes of original material. This is to avoid the kind of bands that have a lazy "promo single", or a "3 song EP", of which 2 are covers, for instance. Expect moderator discretion for evaluating this. An EP may be accepted depending on the situation. Two EPs are better than one, for sure."

"MODERATOR DISCRETION APPLIES. In other words, if the digital album shows true effort and professionalism, it has much higher chances of being accepted than a random collection of garage-sounding songs in a .rar called "demo 1" that will lead to a 404 page in two weeks. The above criteria will be evaluated by the moderators, and they are entitled to use their full discretion. These criteria may be adjusted over time, we reserve the right to tweak them as required as we ease in digital-only bands. And remember that a clear-cut proof of a physical release is always the best ticket for acceptance (unless it's 3 little tapes you obviously made for your mother, your brother and your friend... and yes, we've had this kind of submission!)."

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