Correct, the band was judged to be most likely fake back in January. That's not a valid release anyway, just an upload to an illegal download site.


The band is pending, be patient. This is not the thread to ask whether an unsubmitted or pending band is acceptable. EDIT: Ah, that was rejected before and you resubmitted. I'll deal with the submission.

Excuse me,

do you know who is this user called "Roman"?

It seems he has fun to send me negative reports even if I did nothing

Now me menaced me to ban me because I add future releases without:

-Tracklist
-Release date
-Confirmation from sources
-Format

Now....maybe he is lazy or a complete idiot, but I submit ALWAYS everything, from good images, exact tracklist, label name, label catalogue number, information and additional notes, format....and it's information that can be EASILY (EASILY, even an idiot can do it) found on Facebook at the label's page

And if the label don't fix a date and they don't make enough advertising and the product pops out in their distro surrouned by general silence by the label and the band or any other channel involved, then it's not my fault.
Maybe this "Roman" is an american or an european from a wealthy country where everything is scheduled, everything is carefully planned and fixed, everything must be like this and like that otherwise is unaccepyable...but he should understand that the world, the rest of the world doesn't follow the same guidelines as in the USA or in his country.

So I really don't know what he want from me. It is impossible to contact him and I don't know how to find him on Metal-Archives but he's really breaking my balls, now

Maybe they have something personal against me: instead of "thank yous" I received a lot of offensive emails (including a lot of "what the fuck") where they reject my submission because I can not find original cover artwork of some fucking rare indian (yes, from India) or spanish metal demos from the 80's when I see a lot of bands are included here with just a mere "released a demo"....maybe they are just submitted by some friends of them and they have fun to be rude with some unknown person, asking them a lot of things impossible to find (cover artwork? then delete the 99% of russian bands pre-1992, please: none of them have cover artowrk, so "they don't exist")

Then you can ban me, I don't give a fuck about these hysterical administrators.
Even because most of times they should wash their mouth before complaining to those who are working for and helping them for free.

I don't need any reply. Ban me or just approach me in a better and more educated way. Stop conversation, I don't have time to waste.

Roman? I think you mean Porman, he is a site moderator, and these "negative reports" you are receiving are site warnings from the moderation for clearly disobeying clearly-stated rules; in your case, multiple times. You have been docked points as of just a few days ago, and you continue to ignore the rules. You clearly have an attitude problem, and refuse to respect the administrators. You feel "slighted" by our attempts to run this site with care and structure by enforcing dirt-simple guidelines like requiring an exact release date for upcoming releases. You contribute more headache than you are worth, so if you choose to exile yourself, I will be the first to celebrate.

I said "clearly" a lot in this post, because it boggles my mind how blatant we have to make things for you to understand.

So my Iscariot (Long Island, NY) submission was rejected for only having a digital release. Will i be able to submit them again once they actually release a full length on CD (other formats too) and or re release this ep on a CD? Oh also is it only because they don't have CD release or does their sound take part in the rejection?

They can be resubmitted once they have something released on a physical format or once they release something more substantial.

Sure, you can't be blamed for dodgy labels, but for the site the obvious course of action would be not to add the release if there is no exact release date announced. Mind you, "exact release date" is a bit of a tautology anyway, since a date is by definition day, month and year. That we need such data is spelled out in the rules, as well as in the info box on the right when adding a release, as well as in the orange warning box that pops up when you try to set a future date.


Well, his name in the warning he sent you is clickable, and all site messages are displayed on your profile page (under "Latest messages/warnings"). Also, you can contact him through the forum messaging system, if his email isn't public. That won't be necessary for this case, though, since it seems quite clear. And it's "Porman".


We simply require good proof of release before a band can be accepted. If we decide that the evidence for a release is dubious/insufficient, we reserve the right to deny a band entry. As for "offensive emails"... well, not as far as I can see in the deletion history. Got an example? Also, I already explained the mechanics behind semi-empty band pages to you via email. Not sure why you're bringing it up again here. I also asked you in the same email when and where exactly we claimed that a cover art is required, but you didn't answer. Hint: It isn't, but it can help with proving a release's legitimacy, if applicable. You may have been misinterpreting some rejection emails.



Come on, none of this is exactly rocket science nor cause to up the drama queen amperage. Kindly act like the adult your profile age claims you are. I've really been trying to be polite and patient with you, but you're not making it easy... If you feel slighted by the site warnings or band rejections, that's too bad. But we don't dish out these things without good reason and if a user were to take their time to read the rules, outrage would quickly become understanding. Well, in theory at least.

PS: If you're wondering what happened to your Tribu submission, I've restored it.

I should get so butthurt.

what are the chances of Grave Pleasures getting on the archives, on the side-project rule?

https://www.facebook.com/gravepleasvres

(all) members already on the archives:
http://www.metal-archives.com/artists/L ... sson/33601
http://www.metal-archives.com/artists/Kvohst/4417
http://www.metal-archives.com/artists/U ... usson/9657
http://www.metal-archives.com/artists/J ... hanen/1028
http://www.metal-archives.com/artists/V ... rino/83360

Hi everybody, cheers from Italy. I'm Riki from Grumo, grindcore since 2004. This October we will release our second full-length through ETN Records. Yesterday I wanted to upload our band profile on Encyclopedia Metallum but seems we are blacklisted, and I really don't know why. It will be an honor for us have a profile on this website. Cheers!

https://www.facebook.com/grumogrind

It seems the first release was judged to be nonmetallic goregrind, but this upcoming album sounds perfectly acceptable. Once it is released, please post here again and we'll take it off the blacklist for submission.

aloof: Probably not very good, but I'm the resident SP grouch.

Okay devs, for the Iscariot band from Long Island NY...turns out...that EP is on physical format!
I found it here!

http://iscariot.bigcartel.com/product/reign-undivine-ep
http://iscariot.bigcartel.com/ <--More from the band

Let me know if there is still more that is required from the band, I want to know first before I submit again.

no worries, just asking. thanks

Hi im a newie here, can´t post the proves that my band Evokador exist, so here it goes.

Link for audio:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xel6ZvM ... ture=share
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05yboEcUEdQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aleGroDoF4Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9MgfDmhw1U

Please can approv our band now?

Link for our promo release:
https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hp ... e=567981D8

Serious question: If any of this sites admins where a fan of bands like Slipknot, Avenged Sevenfold etc. they would be here, without any discussion allowed?

ok, resubmit with that link included.


ok, that's metal, but... are those supposed to be CDs? I only see cut-out covers. How many copies did you guys make? Any pictures of the CDs themselves?


"Serious question", sure. But no, because personal taste has nothing to do with it. You don't see me adding Blue Öyster Cult, as much as I worship them.

Seems like it is metal enough I guess, but you still haven't given us proof of the physical (CD) release. Those look like images scanned on an inkjet printer and cut out to resemble CD covers. You do realize that many artists try to fake these to get included on the site, right? We need a better image of the CD itself the, final product as it is distributed.



Absolutely not, and implying such as a "serious question" proves that you have failed to read the rules/guidelines, or honestly done any research at all before attempting to pigeonhole the way we run things.

What about Faith no More and Elend? Both were added by Morrigan and when you search the forum there are several threads asking why they are here (according to your own rules they shouldn't be), the only answer given is "because Morrigan added them, stop asking".

Actually, according to our rules: "Additionally, there will be some non-metal bands featured on the site that we feel are still part of the metal scene despite not being metal themselves (usually darkwave, ambient, neo-classical and/or folk bands, examples being Mortiis, Elend, Autumn Tears, Stille Volk, etc)."

So again, I implore you to read the guidelines, which you clearly haven't. Faith No More are a valid entry not subject to the above. I don't mind correcting you endlessly here, but as you can see these questions have been asked many times before. Why repeat questions that have already been answered?

I doubt that's verbatim, but the implication here is that Morrigan (the co-owner of the site) has deemed them acceptable based on the music (Faith No More). Not that she added them because she wants all her favourite bands to appear here. Regarding Elend, what Diamhea said.

Iscariot has been submitted!

Regarding Elend: Of course I read the rules, that is one reason I am asking. Whoever wrote the rules decided to allow some bands which are obviously not metal of any kind. If that is not personal taste I don't know.
Regarding Faith no More: I am yet to see any reason why they are accepted. Maybe one of you would be kind enough to link a forum post where it is explained.

Hence why they are referred to as "exceptions" and the rules admit to their intrinsic arbitrariness. Still, there is a certain reasoning behind their inclusion (proximity to the metal scene, listenership, etc.) and you shouldn't confuse these select few with how we dealt and deal with the other 99,98% percent of the database. I'm actually not much of a fan of these exceptions myself, but many of them are owner-selected and -approved and I can respect that.


That I cannot answer definitively, since I only know one or two of their songs. But again, I can only assume that Morrigan judged one or more of their releases to be acceptably metallic. A cursory subforum search suggests that at least The Real Thing and/or their early stuff was considered acceptable. It seems to be a quite divisive inclusion.

I like how he starts out trying to be civil and progressively gets way angrier as he writes his comment ending with I don't care, ban me at the end.

Well I got rejected for a second time because one I'd submitted before (Once Human) was already submitted by someone else today, but the annoying thing was I'd spent weeks building my submission to have accurate information (including meticulously adding every detail of the CD booklet I have) and the one that got to stay is virtually empty. I'm sure as hell not writing all that stuff again so can't you just merge the information on both?

IDK I think mods should go with the entry that has the most accurate and complete information rather than who simply "got in first"

I took care of it. I restored yours and deleted the other just because you had more info. In the future, if someone else adds the band first, wait until it's approved or rejected and then add or report the info once it's on the site.

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Seltar/3540400290

Apparently, Seltar has a sole digital-only release [Declaración MMXV], released 12 August 2015. This submission has been rejected because the digital-only is too short, and probably does not qualify as valid.

It has 2 tracks, giving a total length of 17:25.
I originally classified this release as a Full-length. Now I have reclassified it as an EP.
Digital-only demos are not allowed, since they are associated with "basement recording" bands, and rar demo downloads which will soon be 404'd.
In the official Bandcamp website, they did not even specify it as a Full, EP, or Demo, thus making the classification 'ambiguous'.

The rejection message goes as follows:
A band needs a valid release before they can be accepted to the site - a valid release is one that's either:

Distributed in physical form (CD, CDr, DVD, tape, vinyl, etc) [NO]
Digital and available for full download: must also be a finished/final mix (no garage rehearsals or rough mixes), AND long enough (preferably over 20 minutes) [Not preferably]
Already released. That is, no upcoming releases! [Yes]

So, for the status of its sole digital album, is such an entry completely unacceptable?

20-30m is the grey area for digital releases, under 20m are rarely/never accepted. That's not a basement demo, but it's hardly a professional recording. Digital-only releases under 20m are very rarely accepted though, with the exceptions being some stuff that is genuinely professionally produced like Necromancing the Stone.

Expect discretion on the part of the staff with digital-only releases.

Then, the mods genuinely chose to reject this album rightfully.

Of course I did. If I'm going to be wrong, I'm going to be wrong to the extreme!

Hello.
I would like to post an inquiry into why the band Headkase was not accepted.
The first time it was denied was due to not having proof of an album. However, this was provided and I sent it again. This time it was rejected because it was said to' it be a metal band.' This is undoubtedly a metal band and plenty of proof has been given. I would like to request another mod look at the page to make a decision.
If something does come up, I would like to hear of it.

Thank you for your time, and sorry for the inconvenience.

~Seamus

I listened to a few songs. It is a strange mix of stuff, one of the constituents undoubtedly being metal. The problem is that metal isn't the band's main focus, and is not a major cog in their sound. Tough call, but I see no reason to overturn the blacklisting/rejection. The band has been around for a while, I'm surprised you are the first to attempt to submit them.

I was the first to attempt to submit them? My god, this is unacceptable.
In fact, I was surprised they weren't already here! Oh well, I tried, but thanks, Diamhea.

Was the band Force (pre-Europe) blacklisted due to the lack of physical release? Their recordings are metal for sure, NWOBHM-like.

No, blacklist says "hard rock/AOR"

OK, so I'm just wondering what the overall though about Mushroomhead is on this site. It isn't inccluded, and the only mentions of the band I could find on this thread are the following-









I guess it goes down to whether their riffing is considered to me metal enough to be metal. Thoughts?

Symphonic Destiny are blacklisted for being more symphonic than metal?

Well, don't forget this one.


Nope, too short a digital release, as of July 2015. User wouldn't stop submitting.

oh my. sorries I brought them up again

A band called Imperial Sin, why they're banned?



They definitely plays death metal, without any "forbidden" influences, and they had released demo material.


More proof:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP91wg ... p8KawgY_ZA

Re: imperial sin - they were blacklisted for having no valid release of original material. do they have a valid release that's not mostly / all covers?