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Emptiness Cycle
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 3:28 pm 
 

joecubbie wrote:
I'm a little confused on where MA stands on Miasmal Sabbath at the moment. After seeing Zodijackyl whitelisted them based off their latest EP, I decided to submit them, only to have them rejected by Emptiness Cycle. Upon further look, they're back on the blacklist too. Was this merely a misunderstanding between the mods? Thanks.


Hi - I gotta put my hands up to this one and say oops. I didn't realise it was previously whitelisted, and on listening to it, I didn't feel it met the site criteria. However, I'm quite happy if Zodi agrees to discuss it and whitelist it.

I'm kinda new, sorry about that ;)

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Zodijackyl
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 3:30 pm 
 

I consulted with EC and restored the submission. I guess he only listened to the release it was blacklisted for earlier. :lol:

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Mia ... 3540425705

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Emptiness Cycle
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 3:30 pm 
 

Confirmed. Apologies for the runaround there. I'm off to be flogged for a few hours.

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ScreaminThunder
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:57 pm 
 

Hello,
some months ago I submitted a band called Trapster (from Italy) and it was rejected because there weren't enough proofs that this band had a real physical release. Then, some days ago I found a secure proof of a physical release and I submitted again the band, but it was rejected again and blacklisted too.
I think I made some mistakes during this new submission, because in my opinion this is a very secure proof (not very different from the picture showed as examples at the top of this page) and I think it's very strange that the band was reject again with a proof like this: a box with about 100 CDs in a quite professional package and a statement of the band that, starting from April 7, these CDs are available to be purchased.
www.facebook.com/Trapster.HeavyMetal/ph ... =3&theater

Furthermore, on the Youtube channel of the band there are two songs taken from this CD and it can be listened that they are not rough or garage mixes: https://www.youtube.com/user/TrapsterOfficial
So I ask if it's possible to revise the response about this band or to try a new submission in case I made some mistakes while editing the informations. Otherwise, I fully respects the judgement of the moderators and I thank them for their hard work.

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OpsiusCato
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 5:53 pm 
 

ScreaminThunder wrote:
Trapster

Whitelisted. Resubmit with both the picture and the youtube links in the submission notes.
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realdeal
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:56 pm 
 

I've been a reader of EM for many years, and recently created a new login (my old one was long forgotten) so I could submit the last band I was in. I saw that The Reckoning (US) is blacklisted, but was unable to find anything related to this when searching, even all forums.

We have a full length album from 2014:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaOwratpF5w

Hope we can get this resolved. Thanks \m/

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AncientAssault
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 1:33 am 
 

?????

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Zodijackyl
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 2:14 am 
 

realdeal wrote:
I've been a reader of EM for many years, and recently created a new login (my old one was long forgotten) so I could submit the last band I was in. I saw that The Reckoning (US) is blacklisted, but was unable to find anything related to this when searching, even all forums.

We have a full length album from 2014:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaOwratpF5w

Hope we can get this resolved. Thanks \m/


There's no note on the blacklisting, but I'm not sure I'd say this is predominantly metal. Sound like chuggy -core mixed with some groove metal/metalcore.

AncientAssault wrote:
"Whore" from United States


It's still open for discussion on our end, but it doesn't seem to be a valid release from me. Digital release "coming soon" with ten copies of a tape, with no apparent promotion/distribution/mention of this tape aside from the Facebook page of an upstart label. I'm familiar with bands on the parent label of this label, but I've never seen mention of one of these releases.

What I'm saying is, I see these things and still doubt the music has been distributed to any tangible extent.

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EpicDismemberment
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 12:39 pm 
 

Why was Victime Quelconque from Canada blacklisted?

This is their latest album. Please check it out. Thanks.
https://victimequelconque.bandcamp.com/ ... nclosph-re

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lunaterra
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 12:58 pm 
 

(re: Matenrou Opera)
PDS wrote:
I don't have Spotify, but I'll check them out. Well, the latest album. Imo, the non MV tracks on the albums have always been just heavy J-rock with pianos and such.

Any updates? I found a YouTube playlist with the whole album, if that helps: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... b1J_G_EB46

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funnygamesUS
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 12:02 am 
 

Why are the bands Vildhjarta, Between the Buried and Me, For All Eternity, Thessa and Shades of Black blacklisted from the site?

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AncientAssault
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 1:06 am 
 

I understand, but on the official page of the member, he said now available (Bukavac is the guy what play in "Whore")

https://www.facebook.com/Bukavac-437939 ... ts&fref=ts

"Got my tape! My side project Whore (Raw US Black Metal) is available through Conclave Curatorial"

4/22/2017

https://www.facebook.com/43793932637401 ... =3&theater

The page of "Conclave curatorial"

https://www.facebook.com/CONCLAVECURATO ... S/?fref=ts

from the 3/22 you can buy this tape with the label on tape format (the digital format is not available)

https://www.facebook.com/CONCLAVECURATO ... S/?fref=ts

on the page of "Cónclave curatorial" is possible see the picture with the tapes from 3/2
"WHORE - Self Titled
LIMITED CASSETTE EDITION
10 Hand Numbered Units with 2 sided Half Sized J-Card
ORDER NOW:"

https://www.facebook.com/CONCLAVECURATO ... 3949239062


FROM 3/26

"Limited Edition of 10 Hand Numbered Units
ORDER NOW: https://conclavecuratorial.bandcamp.com/releases
Track: V (Vocals performed by Special Guest Namtaräum)"
https://www.facebook.com/CONCLAVECURATO ... S/?fref=ts


On the bandcamp page explain:

Only Available on Limited edition Tape
credits
released March 3, 2017

https://conclavecuratorial.bandcamp.com/album/whore

Also, the pictures with tapes are on the Bandcamp page.

In short:

The physical proof is here:
https://f4.bcbits.com/img/0009682603_10.jpg
https://f4.bcbits.com/img/0009682606_10.jpg

The band is a Metal band:
https://www.facebook.com/CONCLAVECURATO ... 422776381/
https://www.facebook.com/CONCLAVECURATO ... 4265498697

And now is available the tape:
(See the page of Conclave Curatorial)

Do you need another proof or info?

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AncientAssault
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 1:09 am 
 

Please, check the Links and description carefully

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Erosion of Humanity
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 2:06 am 
 

AncientAssault wrote:
Please, check the Links and description carefully


We have reached a consensus, and that is, as you have already been told, we highly doubt your efforts for serious distribution are legitimate. Your band will not be accepted at this time, now kindly stop asking.


funnygamesUS wrote:
Why are the bands Vildhjarta, Between the Buried and Me, For All Eternity, Thessa and Shades of Black blacklisted from the site?


Use the search function.
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Axel666MoWi
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 7:23 am 
 

The band "Furfur" has been rejected for non metal http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Furfur/3540425919
Can I hav some precisions about this rejection please?
Thanks.

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Emptiness Cycle
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 8:23 am 
 

Axel666MoWi wrote:
The band "Furfur" has been rejected for non metal http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Furfur/3540425919
Can I hav some precisions about this rejection please?
Thanks.



Yes. When listening to it, I heard a frequent amalgamation of acoustic guitars and sections that didn't resemble esclusively metal - the release sounded like typical raw badly produced BM.
Bearing in mind that it was digital only, and barely met our digital qualification anyway, I didn't have full confidence it quite met site criteria.

I am not denying that this release has metal elements to it - but I certainly feel for a digital production it felt short of the digital standards and metal standards required.

I hope this clarifies somewhat.

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Axel666MoWi
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 8:31 am 
 

Thank you very much, I understand better, I think some CD's will be produced in a short time. Anyway thanks for the answer!

Can other moderators check it out?

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Emptiness Cycle
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 8:33 am 
 

Axel666MoWi wrote:
Thank you very much, I understand better, I think some CD's will be produced in a short time. Anyway thanks for the answer!

Can other moderators check it out?


I'm sure they will based on this thread. If a change to my original decision is made, we will let you know. Thanks for understanding.

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theunrelentingattack
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 9:25 am 
 

Axel666MoWi wrote:
Thank you very much, I understand better, I think some CD's will be produced in a short time. Anyway thanks for the answer!

Can other moderators check it out?


Sorry man, I agree with EC here - too much of this release isn't actually metal to accept. CDs aren't going to help the case in this one. We'd need to wait until there's another release and it would have to be more solidly metal than this one.
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cepit
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 9:54 am 
 

My submission has been rejected for following reason no valid releases. http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Cri ... 3540425893
Is this not enough? https://mobile.facebook.com/story.php?s ... _tn__=%2As
https://mobile.facebook.com/ENDLESSTORT ... 0041083866
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Emptiness Cycle
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 9:57 am 
 

cepit wrote:


Resubmit it. When I rejected it the FB links weren't working so I had no verifiable way of seeing this release.

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Celarion
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 12:24 pm 
 

The band Dawn Harbor (france) has been rejected from the metal band lists and I wish to have more information about it.

Celarion

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~Guest 375902
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 5:14 pm 
 

Sub'd Bosoga. Rejected for not being metal. Sounds doom to me.

Link

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BananaSuitMassacre
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 5:52 pm 
 

BananaSuitMassacre wrote:


Anyone got an update for me to say whether the band can get whitelisted? :)

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VirusVI
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 7:15 pm 
 

Objection; ruling to be overturned


Last edited by VirusVI on Wed May 03, 2017 5:05 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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AncientAssault
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 7:27 pm 
 

Ok, i understand, what do you need for the next time if i want add "Whore" to Metal-Archives?

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PDS
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 10:49 pm 
 

AncientAssault wrote:
Ok, i understand, what do you need for the next time if i want add "Whore" to Metal-Archives?


Shoot us a message on this thread, and then we will take another look at it when there is another release that is seemed acceptable by our release standards.

BananaSuitMassacre wrote:
BananaSuitMassacre wrote:


Anyone got an update for me to say whether the band can get whitelisted? :)


Still sort of sounds more -core than metal. There are riffs, but I can really only count a couple songs as more metal than -core.

Celarion wrote:
The band Dawn Harbor (france) has been rejected from the metal band lists and I wish to have more information about it.

Celarion


Blacklisted for being Nu-metal, which isn't acceptable by our metalness standards.

lunaterra wrote:
(re: Matenrou Opera)
PDS wrote:
I don't have Spotify, but I'll check them out. Well, the latest album. Imo, the non MV tracks on the albums have always been just heavy J-rock with pianos and such.

Any updates? I found a YouTube playlist with the whole album, if that helps: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... b1J_G_EB46


Whitelisted.

EDIT: Now fully white-listed, forgot about the one in Kanji/Kana
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lunaterra
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 11:04 pm 
 

Thanks! :)

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asphyXy
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 1:37 am 
 

Necropsychotic wrote:
asphyXy wrote:
The band Ferrett from New York (heavy metal a la WASP) was blacklisted because the first album was an awful bedroom recording. Second album is pro (mixed/mastered by Fredrik Nordstrom), and much more metal. The album came out on Friday, and here are a few tracks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01Ufq9w8p_Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4S1utti6tY



Yeah, the first album warranted a blacklist. I'm wondering if an admin can lift that ban with the new release.


Any update on this?

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Celarion
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 11:56 am 
 

Quote:
Celarion wrote:
The band Dawn Harbor (france) has been rejected from the metal band lists and I wish to have more information about it.

Celarion


Blacklisted for being Nu-metal, which isn't acceptable by our metalness standards.


Then I would be very glad if you could explain why it is Nu-Metal. Tell me what elements are related to this genre.

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Recurrence
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 10:08 pm 
 

I guess I am appropriately posting Slice The Cake into this post (as suggested by an admin), but their album Odyssey To The West. Slice The Cake has produced so much important metal that should definitely be understood. They started out as an awesome deathcore band with Race of Roses... but have you listened to the Odyssey To The West. It almost makes me feel like i am back in 2004 with my Mabool days of Orphaned Land. There is a SERIOUS metal exploration in these master pieces. They have always come from across the globe and united. I have links and youtube or whatever but I think this is something beautiful that reminds me of Orphanded Land's Mabool album!

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Erosion of Humanity
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 10:27 pm 
 

ahhh nobody told you to ask about it here. It was deemed to be not metal and you were told such by a moderator.
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Paradie777
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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 6:14 am 
 

Hi Mods,

I'm using the forum as advised by email to enquire why 'Son of Sorrow' was rejected. The reason given was "A band needs a valid release before they can be accepted to the site". The submission included cover artwork, band members, track listing, bio and more importantly, a link to the band's bandcamp Page sonofsorrow.bandcamp.com from where the EP 'Faith in Extinction' can be downloaded. This release meets the criteria established: professional artwork, not a demo / garage recording, preferably over 20 minutes.

If it can help make an informed choice, further evidence of the band's activity can be found here:

Facebook page: www.facebook.com/sonoofsorrowmusic
Review on SevillaMetal (in Spanish): http://www.sevillametal.org/web/632-son-of-sorrow
Clip on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SG_CGzouoBg

Also, the debut EP reached #3 on bandcamp's top selling/downloaded gothic metal bands. It has since been pushed back with new releases, but should be still visible on the first pages here: https://bandcamp.com/tag/gothic-metal

Many thanks for taking your time.


A.

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Erosion of Humanity
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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 6:57 am 
 

Uhhh not sure what you're talking about. The band is not blacklisted nor is there a record of it being rejected that I can see. How long ago did you try and submit it, and who sent you the email? Mind posting it here?
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Antioch
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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 7:13 am 
 

Long defunct band Apocalyptic Vision [CH]. Wouldn't they fall under industrial groove metal?
https://myspace.com/apocalypticvisionsick/music/songs (5-song EP streaming)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSLWhOkkg00 (1 track)
https://www.discogs.com/Apocalyptic-Vis ... se/7684743
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Willsson666
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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 12:06 pm 
 

The Green Lung Grinders?

Was it because they fall in the Anal Cunt area or whats the deal

I was about to register them but I was warned that GLG (Canada) was already rejected. They have multiple releases so I know its not that.

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Zodijackyl
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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 2:08 pm 
 

Antioch wrote:
Long defunct band Apocalyptic Vision [CH]. Wouldn't they fall under industrial groove metal?
https://myspace.com/apocalypticvisionsick/music/songs (5-song EP streaming)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSLWhOkkg00 (1 track)
https://www.discogs.com/Apocalyptic-Vis ... se/7684743


Sounds like permutation of alternative/mallcore stuff to me. Blacklisted by another mod in 2014 for that reason.

Willsson666 wrote:
The Green Lung Grinders?

Was it because they fall in the Anal Cunt area or whats the deal

I was about to register them but I was warned that GLG (Canada) was already rejected. They have multiple releases so I know its not that.


Correct. Grindcore, but not predominantly metal. Their newest album "Toke Signals" seems to be some sort of punk/hardcore-based grind, too.

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lvivske
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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 2:17 pm 
 

TheStormIRide wrote:
PaganiusI wrote:
Why was Wormwitch (Canada) rejected?
They play Death/Black Metal with Hardcore influences and have 1 demo out which is availible in digital and tape format.

https://wormwitch.bandcamp.com/album/the-long-defeat


Blacklist note says "Mostly crust" from January of this year.


Just want to follow up on this band. They are on Prosthetic Records now and their 2016 single and upcoming LP are both very much metal. A lot more black metal influence, and just other stuff going on. Was surprised to see they weren't added after I searched them up. Label describes them as "blackened heavy metal" in their promo stuff.

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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 2:41 pm 
 

@Wormwitch
Seems fine to me but I'll wait for the full album to drop. We'll reach a consensus later on.
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Antioch
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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 2:44 pm 
 

Zodijackyl wrote:
Antioch wrote:
Long defunct band Apocalyptic Vision [CH]. Wouldn't they fall under industrial groove metal?

Sounds like permutation of alternative/mallcore stuff to me. Blacklisted by another mod in 2014 for that reason.

Seems like we don't quite see eye to eye on this one, but it also seems like the EP's been sufficiently assessed. ;) Thanks for the time, Zodi.
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