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Klank95
Mallcore Kid

Joined: Fri Aug 26, 2016 6:09 am
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Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 6:57 am

Why have the bands Zao and Training For Utopia been blacklisted?

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Azmodes
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Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 6:59 am

Zao for being -core. No note was added for Training for Utopia, but sampling a random song I suspect the reason is the same as for Zao. Seems to be mathcore/metalcore predominantly rooted in hardcore?

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jahgardens
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Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 8:29 am

Diamhea wrote:

Brick: Melodic hardcore/metalcore

Phantom Feel: Assuming it is predominantly noise but provide something proving otherwise if you'd like

Ybisctu: Not an error... blacklist note says something about it being a "parody."

...eh Parody

I'd say melodic heavy metal ...and so does Metalinjection.net here:
http://www.metalinjection.net/upcoming- ... t-today-85

But it's your site, your rules.

Thanks.

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Derigin
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Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 8:34 am

Yeah, I'm not sure what the guy who rejected it meant by that. I'll ask him to comment.

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jahgardens
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Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 8:41 am

Derigin wrote:

Yeah, I'm not sure what the guy who rejected it meant by that. I'll ask him to comment.

Thank you.

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Opus
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Joined: Sun Sep 22, 2002 11:06 am
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Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 12:09 pm

jahgardens wrote:

...eh Parody

There seems to be some confusion here. It's the band Ybisctus that's a parody band.

Diamhea wrote:

Brick: Melodic hardcore/metalcore

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jahgardens
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Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 12:35 pm

Opus wrote:

jahgardens wrote:

...eh Parody

There seems to be some confusion here. It's the band Ybisctus that's a parody band.

Diamhea wrote:

Brick: Melodic hardcore/metalcore

Ah. Ok thanks.

But BRICK's still not metal? Even after the "Faceless Strangers" release?

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Helvede
Metalhead

Joined: Tue Aug 05, 2003 6:28 pm
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Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 2:12 pm

Please take a moment and look at this page for any doubts about the turd called YBISCTU, and I dare you go to the bandpage section and have a listen.

https://www.facebook.com/YBISCTU/about/ ... =page_info

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thecameronator
Mallcore Kid

Joined: Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:25 am
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Location: Australia

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2016 3:41 am

Hello, I noticed that Therein (Australia) has been blacklisted.

I'm not sure that this is correct.

See here: https://thereinmusic.bandcamp.com/track ... ne-brain-2
here: https://thereinmusic.bandcamp.com/track/comprehension-3
here: https://thereinmusic.bandcamp.com/track ... -unblind-2
and here: https://thereinmusic.bandcamp.com/track/introspect-2

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Ayatapuc
Metal newbie

Joined: Fri Sep 21, 2012 5:35 pm
Posts: 109

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2016 7:14 am

I'm interested to find out why Devotion (Death Metal) from Spain has been blacklisted.

Is pure death metal, this year has released his album.

Last edited by Ayatapuc on Sat Aug 27, 2016 8:10 am, edited 1 time in total.

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theunrelentingattack
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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2016 7:26 am

Therein - wanky prog
Devotion was simply because people wouldn't stop sending it through before the release date. I've whitelisted it. You can submit.

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Ayatapuc
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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2016 8:12 am

theunrelentingattack wrote:

Therein - wanky prog
Devotion was simply because people wouldn't stop sending it through before the release date. I've whitelisted it. You can submit.

Great!

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metalheadjoe
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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2016 3:43 pm

Unholy Vampyric Slaughter Sect.

Proof it is a raw black metal band:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwvbcf5AYVs

I don't think it is too noisy to not be considered metal, and I think this demo shows it.

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Azmodes
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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2016 3:50 pm

Apparently the music isn't the problem. The release is. It's only 10 tapes and around 5 minutes of music. We need something more substantial than that. Is that their only release?

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metalheadjoe
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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2016 3:53 pm

Azmodes wrote:

Apparently the music isn't the problem. The release is. It's only 10 tapes and around 5 minutes of music. We need something more substantial than that. Is that their only release?

Discogs has all of their releases on their site:
https://www.discogs.com/artist/4686781- ... ghter-Sect

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Azmodes
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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2016 4:00 pm

Are there samples for any of them?

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metalheadjoe
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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2016 4:02 pm

https://unholyvampyricslaughtersect.bandcamp.com/

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Azmodes
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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2016 4:12 pm

Whitelisted.

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NARAKU666
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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2016 7:18 pm

i tried to submit the band Healing Harm and was rejected for being "more Core than Metal". i mean they sure sound like modern melodeath ala Soilwork, but to be honest it didnt sound THAT metalcore to me. maybe the decision was made based in one song. Maybe if show you the entire album would make any difference?

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Axel666MoWi
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Joined: Sat Feb 27, 2016 2:57 pm
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Location: France

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:32 am

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Vom ... 3540415135
The band vomitorium has been rejected because the bandcamp link is dead?!
It was working when I submit the band

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TheWatcho
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Joined: Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:17 pm
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Location: Chile

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 12:22 pm

Why was Textures deleted? It doesn't make sense.

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Azmodes
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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 12:28 pm

NARAKU666 wrote:

I wasn't involved in that rejection, but at least two mods would disagree with you. What exactly was judged, I cannot say, but probably more than one song, if more than one song was what was provided.

Axel666MoWi wrote:

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Vomitorium/3540415135
The band vomitorium has been rejected because the bandcamp link is dead?!
It was working when I submit the band

That may be, but now it doesn't and we need something to assess the band's sound as well as proof for release.

TheWatcho wrote:

Why was Textures deleted? It doesn't make sense.

viewtopic.php?p=2645158#p2645158

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Axel666MoWi
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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 12:47 pm

So for Vomitorium, I've found that : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXMptSdj7QU
It's all I can give to valide ( or not ) the band. I'm so disappointed... All was on their bandcamp.

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Antioch
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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 12:56 pm

Axel666MoWi wrote:

So for Vomitorium, I've found that : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXMptSdj7QU
It's all I can give to valide ( or not ) the band. I'm so disappointed... All was on their bandcamp.

There's plenty more here: https://vomitousnoiseproductions.bandcamp.com/
Is this everything? Too short (even if musically acceptable).

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Axel666MoWi
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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 1:15 pm

Antioch wrote:

Axel666MoWi wrote:

So for Vomitorium, I've found that : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXMptSdj7QU
It's all I can give to valide ( or not ) the band. I'm so disappointed... All was on their bandcamp.

There's plenty more here: https://vomitousnoiseproductions.bandcamp.com/
Is this everything? Too short (even if musically acceptable).

No, it lacks a compilation, and another EP a little longer (about 10 minutes).

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thecameronator
Mallcore Kid

Joined: Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:25 am
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Location: Australia

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 1:30 pm

theunrelentingattack wrote:

Therein - wanky prog
Devotion was simply because people wouldn't stop sending it through before the release date. I've whitelisted it. You can submit.

Wanky prog with a pretty clear Metal sound.

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Antioch
Metalhead

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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 1:35 pm

Axel666MoWi wrote:

Antioch wrote:

There's plenty more here: https://vomitousnoiseproductions.bandcamp.com/
Is this everything? Too short (even if musically acceptable).

No, it lacks a compilation, and another EP a little longer (about 10 minutes).

Even so, there's enough material there for the mods to give you a definite answer concerning metalness, or the lack thereof.

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Axel666MoWi
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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 1:46 pm

[/quote]
Even so, there's enough material there for the mods to give you a definite answer concerning metalness, or the lack thereof.[/quote]

Sorry I did not understand, the group is denied? Accepted? Or waiting?

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Antioch
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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 2:11 pm

Axel666MoWi wrote:

Sorry I did not understand, the group is denied? Accepted? Or waiting?

I was just trying to help speed things up by providing samples. You need to wait for a moderator's response.

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Axel666MoWi
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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 2:25 pm

Ok thanks!

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Ayatapuc
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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 3:54 pm

I'm interested to find out why Agares (Black Metal) from Chile has been blacklisted.
riff Nirvana???

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYLFNRh2yNE

- - https://www.facebook.com/Agares.PureSouthernBlackWar/

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theunrelentingattack
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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:44 pm

WarDeth88 wrote:

It wasn't blacklisted. Really all you had to do was read the rejection - it was pretty clear. Two songs were on the facebook page, one was completely ambient and one sounded like a grunge riff like a Nirvana song - so it was rejected until we could get more. So that you tube link has one more song. So that's one black metal, one ambient and one grim grunge-like riff. If someone can prove the cassette is mostly metal, we can take it.

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TheWatcho
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 12:45 am

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viewtopic.php?p=2645158#p2645158

So, you've (or someone else) deleted Textures because it was "prog djent core" (wtf). The band is clearly some sort of proggy Groove/Metalcore band. What's not Metal about that, specially considering that their music is definitely NOT rooted in Hardcore music? It's so blatantly on the metal side of things that I simply don't understand how you wouldn't consider Textures "not metal enough".

Oooh, yeah it probably lacks "the metal riff", that loose definition that you guys have never been able to fully describe as a way to "draw the line". Sooo ridiculous it really hurts this site credibility on what is and what is not Metal.

I understand not having Animals As Leaders. I understand not having UFO. I undestand not having Agoraphobic Nosebleed... Hell, I even get why Between The Buried And Me is not here, but Textures? Seriously?

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Zodijackyl
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 2:37 am

Yes, seriously. I'd call it prog djent, not so much -core, but not metal. We're a little loose about vague terminology like that. Already been reviewed, not being reconsidered.

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Azmodes
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:16 am

huh, getting why BtBaM aren't listed, but not Textures. Gotta say, that's a tad weird.

@Vomitorium: This is exactly the kind of riffless noisecore/goregrind we don't accept. Not metal, I've blacklisted it.

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aloof
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:20 am

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Sorry aloof, Encyclopaedia Metallum was forced to reject your submission for the band Chain (United States), for the following reason:

The band you have submitted was already submitted by another user (possibly shortly before you and thus was not yet approved), and therefore your submission has been deleted to avoid a duplicate entry. We apologize for the inconvenience, but please don't let that stop you from contributing again. In the future, make sure you check the band queue before making a submission. Thank you for your comprehension.

If you want to object to this rejection, please do so in the appropriate thread in the "Suggestions and Complaints" sub-forum. Do not e-mail moderators directly about this. If you need help digging up more information about a band for your submission, you can try posting about it in this thread.

Sincerely,
- Azmodes, Encyclopaedia Metallum

are you sure the submission you accepted preceded mine?

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Azmodes
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:25 am

No, but I remember it was more complete.

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Antioch
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:33 am

aloof wrote:

are you sure the submission you accepted preceded mine?

The band, the name rather, was whitelisted upon his request.
viewtopic.php?p=2655361#p2655361

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aloof
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:43 am

I've whitelisted bands for other users to add, too... and I guess being "already submitted by another user" was not the actual reason for the rejection, then. but anyway. it's monday and all.

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Azmodes
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:51 am

Well, it's a pre-written message. I admit it's not quite accurate in this case.

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