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OpsiusCato
Mexican Metal Inquisition

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 3:47 pm 
 

If you want a band to be reevaluated, post a few links to their music here and one of us moderators will take a look.

EDIT: Azmodes beat me to it.
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1234SLAYER1234
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Location: Falkland Islands
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 7:57 am 
 

Hey guys, the Uk death metal band "No More Room In Hell" was denied because they had not yet put out their album, it was "coming soon".

On their page they confirm that it is coming out on cd form on the 5th of october, all information on the page

https://www.facebook.com/NoMoreRoomInHe ... al?fref=ts

The page i created already has the correct information on it, it just needs to be approved

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Flipsn
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Location: Germany
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:21 am 
 

Azmodes wrote:
If you want us to have another listen, please provide links to music.


https://soundcloud.com/wild-zombie-blast-guide :)

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:55 am 
 

MasterOfSin wrote:
MasterOfSin wrote:
Any chance to change this with the new album?





http://molllust.bandcamp.com/album/in-deep-waters

hm, sounds like it could qualify, I'll ask the mod who blacklisted it back in 2012.

MetalCuresHeadaches wrote:
Azmodes wrote:
That one track doesn't sound very convincing, tbh. I didn't check the earlier stuff, though.


Not to be pedantic, but was that a rejection of the whole album, or just a disinterest in the opening song?

If the first track is representative, then it's a rejection.

Zodijackyl wrote:
Egregor: I'm going to need another opinion on this one, not my forte. Lots of soft stuff in the middle of the album, though.

I don't know, "softer than Evanescence" is hyperbolic. Still, I mostly hear lots of djenty chugging, plus the soft parts in the middle. Where are the metal riffs?

Zodijackyl wrote:
Cranely Gardens: Blacklisted for being more -core than metal. Seems borderline, I'm going to need another opinion on this.
https://www.youtube.com/user/CranelyGardens/videos

I could be swayed maybe, but at first glance it seems a tad too -core by the site's standards.

1234SLAYER1234 wrote:
Hey guys, the Uk death metal band "No More Room In Hell" was denied because they had not yet put out their album, it was "coming soon".

On their page they confirm that it is coming out on cd form on the 5th of october, all information on the page

https://www.facebook.com/NoMoreRoomInHe ... al?fref=ts

The page i created already has the correct information on it, it just needs to be approved

Cheers

Jacob

Yes, but again, wait until the album is actually released. We don't accept bands without any albums out at the time of submission.

aaauuuuu wrote:
Hello, I want to talk about Jamrud, this has talked before and blacklisted because more rock than metal as I remembered, I added the band 2 - 3 years ago but the submission notes contained only one song sample which taken from the older album.

And now I give a proof for you that one of the their album is metal for me. Jamrud have more than 10 albums. The album titled "Bumi & Langit Menangis (2011)" is heavy metal although there's a mix with rock but not too much rock, very focus to heavy metal. CMIIW.

You can listen to these all songs -> http://files.indowebster.com/download/f ... mpetalbum_
(Password: dompetalbum (don't copy/paste, just type this password)
CD -> http://id.priceaz.com/price/cd-jamrud-b ... =pricelist
http://ariemm.blogspot.co.id/2015/01/cd ... angis.html
https://www.bukalapak.com/p/hobi/koleks ... ceza.co.id
Also available in some other distros (as well as at mall) I saw irl, so not a very limited copies.

The download link doesn't work for me. Did it expire?

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Azmodes wrote:
If you want us to have another listen, please provide links to music.


https://soundcloud.com/wild-zombie-blast-guide :)

Thrash metal is a stretch, but the 2014 album sounds like acceptable metalcore. I want a second opinion first, though. https://wildzombieblastguide.bandcamp.com/
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Defreasis
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 9:46 am 
 

@Azmodes, still working for me, I'm not sure is expired or not, but try this another link -> https://www.mediafire.com/folder/5vly5k ... album_2011

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 10:17 am 
 

That one worked. But eeeeehhh, damn. You always manage to come up with the strangest crap. :P This is sort of a mix of heavy metal, Japanese-oid saccharine power metal and 90's mallcore/rap rock. That one part in the second song is lifted 1:1 from Papa Roach's "Last Resort" (which seems almost intentional, considering that the following song does the woohoo thing from Blur - Song 2 and there's a couple more seeming nods I can't quite put my finger on now?). Instrumentally, this could qualify overall, but I don't really know what to do with it.
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Deadw3ight13
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:03 am 
 

aaauuuuu wrote:
@Azmodes, still working for me, I'm not sure is expired or not, but try this another link -> https://www.mediafire.com/folder/5vly5k ... album_2011



Our upcoming second release ventures further into death metal and darker elements. Should the first release be judged too core, would it be possible to get a second evaluation when the sophomore release is distributed?

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Derigin
The Mountain Man

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:27 am 
 

Azmodes wrote:
MasterOfSin wrote:
Any chance to change this with the new album?





http://molllust.bandcamp.com/album/in-deep-waters

hm, sounds like it could qualify, I'll ask the mod who blacklisted it back in 2012.

I listened through the new album and agree with my original assessment that this is more of a rock opera than it is metal. There are some promising moments, but I'm just not hearing the riffs, man. Even when you do get to the parts that are heavy on guitar distortion what is being played is classical music using guitars.
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Ripo
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2015 1:45 am 
 

Zodijackyl wrote:
Egregor: I'm going to need another opinion on this one, not my forte. Lots of soft stuff in the middle of the album, though.

I don't know, "softer than Evanescence" is hyperbolic. Still, I mostly hear lots of djenty chugging, plus the soft parts in the middle. Where are the metal riffs?

With all my respect, you have this band in your site http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Crisalida/18959 and they are even softer than us. They are friends, I have nothing against them, just using them to make my point. But well, I'll respect your decision.

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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2015 2:03 am 
 

Deadw3ight13 wrote:
Our upcoming second release ventures further into death metal and darker elements. Should the first release be judged too core, would it be possible to get a second evaluation when the sophomore release is distributed?


Of course.
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Ghiutun
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2015 2:16 pm 
 

Hello. Yesterday I have added a band here - http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Los ... 3540401800 - and it was rejected due to lack of evidence about the physical release.
First, just to make it clear - this band isn't mine, I have no any relation to them and I'm not that kind who loves to joke or make hoaxes.
Secondly, yes, I don't have the evidence. All accounts of the band are now deleted from social networks, official site is almost unavailable even in archives. I provided links to some catalogues with release (at least there were covers that don't look like a childish mystification) and an example to the song, so I was a bit shocked it's not enough.
OK, will it be removed from the site? Thank you.

UPD: Mmm... I realized that I can delete my draft. Deleted.

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kreuztot
Mallcore Kid

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Location: Germany
PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:36 am 
 

Hey there,

please reconsider the blacklisting of Post Black Metal band Vestiges from Washington.

As far as I remember, they have been originally blacklisted for having an unclear status about their physical releases. Today I figured that their album from 2010 has been released on Vinyl in the meantime:
http://www.bisaufsmesser.com/store/reco ... f-man-2xlp

Thanks!

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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:45 am 
 

kreuztot wrote:
As far as I remember, they have been originally blacklisted for having an unclear status about their physical releases.

You appear to remember incorrectly, then, as the band appears to be blacklisted based on their music, not their discography. ;) To quote the blacklist: "Black Metal elements, but the core of the music is crusty punk/post-rock."

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RaduP
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 3:55 pm 
 

The band is question is Dara from Romania.

I would like to know why they were blacklisted.

Upon listening to their album, I found plenty of metal in it (for example 3:50 in "Aur", 7:15 in "Robii Slovelor de Veci", 2:35 in "Trei Peceti"), although mods might disagree and consider them elements added to a non-metallic core and that will be the final decision which I will not disagree with. If the band (more of a side-project of Argus Megere and ex-Negura Bunget members) was blacklisted because of lack of distribution, they have been signed to Pest Productions, a chinese label, and you can find their album, "Dreptarul Viselor", both for streaming and for acquisition on Bandcamp at this location: https://pestproductions.bandcamp.com/al ... ul-viselor

Thank you for your time!

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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:13 pm 
 

RaduP wrote:
The band is question is Dara from Romania.

I would like to know why they were blacklisted.


Primarily post-rock.
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MDL
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 5:52 am 
 

What about I Built The Cross? They were banned basing on what release?

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PDS
The Folk One

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:01 am 
 

All of the releases, that band is as metal as an air-mattress.
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kreuztot
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:42 am 
 

Alhadis wrote:
kreuztot wrote:
As far as I remember, they have been originally blacklisted for having an unclear status about their physical releases.

You appear to remember incorrectly, then, as the band appears to be blacklisted based on their music, not their discography. ;) To quote the blacklist: "Black Metal elements, but the core of the music is crusty punk/post-rock."


Ugh... Nevermind :P

Concerned mods might have a look into their latest release though, where almost all *core elements have been eliminated.

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DomDomMCMG
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Location: United Kingdom
PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 2:59 pm 
 

Cold Blooded Murder. Previously rejected because the mods couldn't agree whether it was beatdown hardcore or slam or both, new single is far more metal influenced than their older stuff. Quite similar to recent Ingested.

https://officialcoldbloodedmurder.bandc ... member-u-2

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BastardHead
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 4:51 pm 
 

Regardless of whether or not it's metal, a digital single isn't substantial enough to truly "count", even if they have other releases that pass on every front except metalness. It's the same reason Sum 41 wouldn't be accepted if they had released The Bitter End as a single. Feel free to try again though whenever a full album comes out.
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1234SLAYER1234
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 3:09 pm 
 

EDIT

THE ACTUAL ALBUM IS OUT NOW, SORRY FOR POSTING BEFORE IT WAS OUT


Hey guys, the Uk death metal band "No More Room In Hell" was denied because they had not yet put out their album, it was "coming soon".

On their page they confirm that it is coming out on cd form on the 5th of october, all information on the page

https://www.facebook.com/NoMoreRoomInHe ... al?fref=ts

The page i created already has the correct information on it, it just needs to be approved

Cheers

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OpsiusCato
Mexican Metal Inquisition

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 3:46 pm 
 

@1234SLAYER1234

Broken link, dude. Post one that works.
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1234SLAYER1234
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 4:35 pm 
 

this should work

If not just type no more room in hell on facebook

https://www.facebook.com/NoMoreRoomInHe ... al?fref=ts

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asphyXy
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 8:08 pm 
 

Sentience (death metal from NJ) was rejected.

They have a 3 song EP: http://sentiencedeathmetal.bandcamp.com ... f-death-ep

and a two song single: http://sentiencedeathmetal.bandcamp.com ... oss-single

They are digital releases, recorded professionally (EP was mastered by Dan Swano!). The email I received said "preferably over 20 minutes". The EP is 14 minutes total, and the single is 9 minutes total. The only issue I could see with this band is that their releases are less than 20 minutes, but they are definitely a real band with professional musicians. They just played a festival in Maryland a few weeks ago.

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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 8:13 pm 
 

Quote:
but they are definitely a real band with professional musicians


The contrary is not being implied...

Need one digital release that is 20 minutes long or more, not collectively throughout all available releases.
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Ydintalvi
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 7:58 am 
 

Why Meat Shits is blacklisted? I know their earlier stuff is more like pure grind, but albums like Violence Against Feminist Cunts ‎or Sniper At the Fag Parade has a lot death metal elements, like Naked Whipper, Blood, Black Mass of Absu...

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theunrelentingattack
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 8:48 am 
 

Use the search function please - it's been asked many times already

search.php?keywords=meat+shits&terms=all&author=&fid[]=3&sc=1&sf=all&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&st=0&ch=300&t=0&submit=Search
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OpsiusCato
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 2:08 pm 
 

1234SLAYER1234 wrote:
No More Room in Hell


EDIT: Hmmm, I checked the blacklist and it was blacklisted in late September for being unacceptable deathcore, so it's NOT a Death Metal band. The fact that the albums wasn't released has nothing to do with the rejection. DO NOT resubmit.
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thrashy
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 3:41 am 
 

I wonder if the norm is to leave the subject line as is, or if people insert their band name instead of the X...anyway, about Electric Citizen. I go to an average of a dozen metal shows per month at Saint Vitus bar (NYC), and I just got home from seeing Pentagram a second night in a row (probably my 10th or 12th time seeing them) and aside from Satan's Satyrs, the other openers really made an impression. I had seen them once before at this same venue, and to me their rhythm section sounds something like Sabbath circa-Bloody Sabbath, they're also like Witchfinder General with female vocals. Laura's stage presence and the sound of her voice combined with their music are the absolute trademark of what the early days of heavy metal were. That may not be today's standard, but I thought I should find out. I couldn't find them when I searched this topic. thanks in advance for a response.

PS: I do realize what blacklisted means, thought I'll give it a shot

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:25 am 
 

Blacklisted in 2014 for being occult rock.
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thrashy
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:46 am 
 

occult rock? I don't know if that's even a genre descriptive. can you please elaborate?

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 6:45 am 
 

Generally used nowadays to refer to stuff like The Devil's Blood, Purson, Ancient VVisdom or Jess and the Ancient Ones (and I wouldn't be surprised if also retroactively to Coven, Black Widow and their ilk). Kinda doomy, catchy, retro psychedelic rock with -you guessed it- occult themes. That scene exploded a few years ago and obviously there's overlap with traditional doom and stoner metal stuff, nevertheless with certain bands not displaying the basis in metal riffing we require.

I'd say these days it's somewhere between a still semantically fuzzy "scene" coinage from adjective + genre and a more or less consistently applied subgenre term for a certain sound or combination of sounds.
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thrashy
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 5:29 pm 
 

thank you so much. I assure you I am no mallcore kid, but these denominations are funny. It's my first time interacting in these forums. thanks again

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Azmodes
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Don't mind the title. :) It's simply facetious nomenclature based on forum post count. Could just as well be "newbie".
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Maalux
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:28 pm 
 

Good evening, everyone.
Just noticed that atmospheric black metal band Vestiges is blacklisted for some reason. My believe is that there is definitely a mistake regarding this, and I suggest moderators to double check the band because it looks like all the criteria are match with Encyclopaedia Metallum rules. If it is really not so, then I ask moderators to explain the decision and the reason of the rejection.

Fast link on their Bandcamp: https://wearevestiges.bandcamp.com/albu ... ent-of-man

Thank you.

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Diamhea
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Punk/post-rock with black metal elements. Not primarily metal.
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immortalshadow666
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:52 pm 
 

I submitted "Sudden State": http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Sud ... 3540402073

I'm confused as to why this band got rejected. I thought I provided a link to song samples - if I didn't, sorry, I must have been lazy that day and I'll re-submit with proper links if I get the green light here. If it's to do with the fact that their releases are both digital EPs, their EP releases go for a total of 52 minutes between them - isn't that in excess of the 30 minute requirement, or does it have to be 30 minutes on one recording?

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PDS
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 8:17 pm 
 

Gah shit, that was my mistake, I didn't see the app part in the link. Go ahead and resubmit. Though in the future, just link the bandcamp link.
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Maalux
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 8:29 pm 
 

Diamhea wrote:
Punk/post-rock with black metal elements. Not primarily metal.


I don't agree with you at all. Can you call someone else to take a look at it? I believe that if one moderator sees it in one way, the other one can see it in another.

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theunrelentingattack
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 7:21 am 
 

Ring ring. Called. I actually do agree with you so I've taken Vesteges to the Mod forum and have asked for a consensus on this one. We'll let you know the outcome when we come to it.
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