hello

why Roll Mágico from Spain were blacklisted?

I listened to their 7" Ep and Demo and they sound 100% metal (at least in the songs "La bruja de metal" and "Siglo XX"

Plus I got confirm of their existence by some serious researcher/collectors from Spain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s2T0YnJIqs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgRoQ0bsxtw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ze3Uvr408Yk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoIXt5PPqYQ

http://www.discogs.com/Roll-Magico-Sigl ... se/5943507

Hello Moderators,

I submitted the Seattle, WA Death Metal/Grind band "Of Corpse" and my submission was rejected because I had not checked the band queue before posting them.
Upon inspection of the existing page in the queue, I noticed that my post has more up-to-date images and the band's latest logo as well as better information about the full line up and releases.
The only official release is the "Disgusted By Rites Upon Exhumed Roots" Demo cassette. The "Inhumed" demo has not been completed and being so, it should not be included in the band's discography as a "Digital Release".

Thank you for your consideration.

I presume Vindkast has been blacklisted because the release is too close to the non-metal border?

https://vindkast.bandcamp.com/album/archaic-collapse

Well, two of the five tracks are metal and they outweigh the other due to their exceeding length ...

More rock than metal.

Belchior (aka Belchior DeMelo) is a one-man Black Metal band. He is a hard working musician with more than 25 years of contribution to the underground metal scene, not only in Brazil (Infected, Elizabethan Walpurga) but also in USA (as he been living on the US for 15 years now) with Forevers Fallen Grace, Skull Hammer and now with members of Steel Assassin on a new project along the lines of MOTORHEAD.
With one demo-tape self released and recorded in 2007 he struck a deal with the new Brazilian label Ordo Draconian Black Label (from Hellhammer guitar player of Lord Blasphemate). The album was an instant classic in Brazil and also in Boston, MA as soon as it was released. It was called by ARMAGEDDON RECORDS in Boston as "killer bathory worship from boston/brazil" and they are the exclusive distributor of Belchior in the United States.
I would like you guys to revise this rejection as it will only hurt the growth of a metal warrior who has always given blood, sweat and tears for the metal community, but after all that has been rejected here as non-metal artist.
I believe it to be a mistake or a technical problem of some kind on your site when you guys reviewed his page.

Please take a moment to consider this decision and also to listen to his work and see with your own eyes/hear it with your own ears all the music this guy created (by himself) via his one-man band BELCHIOR.

Below is physical proof that this band has a release, that it is metal and original music:

https://belchior.bandcamp.com/releases
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BELCHIOR-S-T-AL ... 43e17488ce
http://www.armageddonshopboston.com/search.php
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Belchior ... 7722786592
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCwUE0J ... EHxdD3c4Zg

Thank you,

Kristkunt666

Oh, that was my bad, your band submission was above a shitty deathcore band (don't do site work at 4AM), and I accidentally rejected that one instead of the deathcore band. Go ahead and resubmit.

Thank you guys!!!

Simplistic and raw, but I'd actually agree that it seems ok-ish. Even so, two other moderators disagree. For a borderline band like this, a consensus is needed.


No, since it is a separate project under its own name, by all appearances.


I have removed the Inhumed demo. Feel free to make a report for the pending submission to update the logo and anything else that might come up.


Didn't check myself, but judged predominantly ambient based on exactly that release.

If I forgot any pending inquiries, please re-post.

So I got the red flag for my submission not being "metal" - I did read the rules before submitting and I strongly disagree with the band "Sarin" not fitting into the post metal genre at all. If Earth, Isis and Sunn o)) makes it then I do not see why my submission did not get approved; just curious for an explanation.

http://www.sarin.bandcamp.com

The mods who rejected it agreed that there was more non-metal material than metal material. While the post-/sludge stuff was metal, there wasn't enough of it amid the interludes and whatnot.

I was like "this seems metal" when I was listening to the first track of Burial Dream but after 90 seconds, the song became post rock/ambient. It's the sort of band exploring many genres and metal is only one of them and not the integral part of their identity (unlike their precursors Isis or Neurosis.) Thanks for the discovery though, if they hit up Montreal, I'll definitely go see them.

What does the blacklist say about the band "凛"? and when was it initially submitted? Thanks.

"Visual kei with a few cherry-picked metal songs" (January 2013)

There is also one entry for "凛 - End of corruption World", which I assume is the same? That one says "Power Metal influenced Visual Kei Rock band" (January 2015).

Note that each entry is by a different mod, so you've already got at least two opinions there.

Alright cool, and yes, both submissions are the same band, though they're known under both names. I'd also noticed severe cherry picking going on, I just downloaded about 50 songs of theirs and at this point there's only about 30% of their discography that I could see passing as a power metal of sorts, not that it's very good. No full length that's predominantly metal at this point either. Thanks for your time.

Is Between The Buried And Me still blacklisted? Their last album is not their heaviest, but the most far away from metalcore music. It sounds like prog metal with a few "rock opera" influences. And also, Underoath is still here but BTBAM no lol

It was assessed in detail and deemed not metal enough.

It would be really nice if those of us who have not submitted a crazy amount bands to have not only rules or guidelines to follow, but some advice from a seasoned band submitter to the M-A. Perhaps a new forum topic about this should be made?

Hi,
Is this ep enough to take of The Mad Poet from the blacklist?

https://themadpoet.bandcamp.com/

Hi!

I'm interested in the band "Demon Project". The band is active for about 15 years and I remember there was some information of the band on Metal-archives. I don't know who added this information and was it right or did it violate the rules. But looks like the band was removed from the list for some reason.

All the evidence of the band's activity including physical releases can be found here: http://www.demonproject.com

I kindly ask to review this information and bring the band back to Metal-archives.

Azmodes, are you sure this is industrial/electronic??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-mvnbRsNp8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq2-G3SIQB4

I wasn't the one who deleted them, but notice the use of the word "predominantly" in the linked post.

Apparently that album was released after the deletion, we'll re-evaluate it.

Between Buried And Me's latest album is definitely prog metal. Perhaps someone has already said in this forum, anyway there are no more doubts in this case.

Bands like Cynic or Anathema are so far from metal now. More distant from BtBaM

That is your opinion, which you are welcome to. We don't agree.

Cynic and Anathema may not be metal anymore, but all that matters to us is at least one predominantly metal release.

Thanks for the answers. I accept your explanations and your opinion as well as the others who believe that BtBaM aren't yet defined as metal.

But I remain puzzled. I will try to explain it this way: the Italian language, and so many others, is constantly changing. New english words are introduced into our vocabulary every year. New words used to describe objects, situations and actions that once did not exist. The word "selfie" is one of them and become part of many languages. It's clear that this word is not italian and therefore should not be part of the dictionary, instead there is! And if we enter into the field of economics, finance and information technology we realize how the Italian language is changing. Words such as "spreads", "asset", "hardware", "software", "know-how" and hundreds of other words have become part of our common language.

With this example I bring you to think that metal is as a kind of language that grows and changes over time. When in the early '80s, came out bands like DRI, MOD, SoD which departed from hardcore to include riffs thrash metal nobody thought about how could call them. Then someone began to talk to "crossover" that was a way to enclose everything in one word. During the concerts of this bands there were also punks and metal kids.

Today we see something similar. The boundaries of "metal" change it and expand it. Bands like BtBaM, The contorsionist, Protest The Hero, The Dillinger Escape Plan and Animals as Leaders, although started from 'core', have included in their sounds specific 'metal' aspects. One of two things: or 'core' is a kind of music becoming refined (and it's not), or 'metal' is changing and expanding its horizons.

Thanks again for your attention

Well, if you keep adding English words to Italian, at some point you won't be speaking Italian anymore, but English. That also applies to metal, and other genres of music.

I don't know why you care exactly, but I'd like to state that metal isn't the objective ultimate best genre out there. There is fantastic stuff in practically every other style out there, and it's perfectly fine, or even great actually, to listen to them. Some people seem to try to label them metal because otherwise they couldn't listen to them, or some bullshit of that kind. Being excluded from the Archives doesn't make any band any less good.

So, users of your site (which has the potential to be super useful) aren't allowed to add bands like Parkway Drive or BTBAM because a few of you decided "they aren't metal enough". What a childish thing to do.

Siren's Song or Sleepwalker by PWD are more metal than 90% of the poser bands listed here.

Just because metal-archives doesn't have non metal bands you like doesn't mean it's not useful. But your poser comment makes me think that you're nothing more thana troll. And we're you banned a little while ago? You're comments sound very familiar.

This post is regarding Mugwort. Twas rejected cus the physical proof I provided turned out to be not quite ready for dispersement which is valid and fine. That said, I was curious to see if their digital EP for 20+ min be used instead of a physical release. http://mugwortmaine.bandcamp.com/releases Thank you!

Eh might as well, band Mourned was rejected as not being metal for the archives. While I usually honor the decisions of the mod who rejected (you're cool dude!), I figured I'd see if I could get a second opinion (no offense!) as I feel the band is quite metal. http://mournedma.bandcamp.com/

No worries if determined not!

Seems fine, resubmit.


Well, actually four mods including me provided their input on this one, so there's already more opinions. I was uncertain about the band/leaning no; of the three others, one was on yes, two on no. Hence the rejection. It really sounded more like a beatdown hardcore band with some (death) metal touches. I appreciate the compliment, though. Such things are a rare sight in this thread.

Werd! Submitted Mugwort!

Understood on Mourned!

My pleasure! Keep doin' your thang!

Azmodes wrote:"Pretty short for a digital release. Any evidence that the band is spreading physical copies for public, non-review purposes as well?" in reply to Loputon suo submission.

No, I think the demo is digital only release. At least the letter that came with the cd-r explaind these cd-r versions are done for promotional use only. My bad. I thought it was okay to add an active band, even though there are no physical relases yet.

As far as I can see, these kind of bands and releases are becoming more and more common these days. Every now and then some band contacts me if I could review their stuff because they have it on Bandcamp, Soundcloud or some other site. And it would be cool to find info on those bands even though their relases are digital only.

Sorry for any inconvenience.

We do accept digital-only bands, but in Loputon suo's case it is a very short demo. We usually require a full-length or professional EP release.

Yeah. I try to keep that in mind. Shall I just re-submit the band after it has done another release?

I got another demo from a Finnish band Archon, too, but not sure if their cd-r is out for public either. Might be yet another digtal only band for now all I know.

It depends on the release. If it's a digital single, for example, no. But another demo like that, probably fine. An EP or a fully-fledged album, sure. If the demo gets a public physical release after all, then of course.

Rhanawa from Malawi was blacklisted.

Digital release found here:- http://dark-world.ru/albums/Rhanawa-Heart-Of-Mkango.php

I think it's because the doubt surrounding the band actually.


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Unferskilligens from the Vatican City:

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Unf ... 3540390881

Release:- https://unferskilligens.bandcamp.com/releases

Assuming it's not long enough?