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The Folk One

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 1:22 am 
 

No not really, even listening to the band now, it sounds like a typical 80's rock band that you would see paired with The Cars, Nazareth, and Foreigner in a classic rock 'n' roll station.
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elfstone321
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Joined: Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:27 pm
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Location: Mexico
PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 5:04 pm 
 

Hi guys I was wondering if Enlighted (Thomas Vikström band) from Argentina can be approved based on it's only digital EP (of almost 13 minutes), it is available for legit download here: http://www.dontpaymusic.com/enlighted/h ... i0OyOtGT1I and they are obvious metal. So what do you think? thanks

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Parasight
Mallcore Kid

Joined: Sun Oct 31, 2004 4:48 am
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Location: Greece
PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 5:08 pm 
 

Hi there,
Today I submitted my previous band Lifestock but it was rejected as non-metal. Well, the initial mistake is probably mine, as, without thinking much, I described our music as "hard/heavy rock". Well, that's a very broad term and one could say that it isn't actually accurate. Anyone can have a listen at https://lifestock.bandcamp.com/ and hear for themselves whether this is a metal sound or not; well, to my ears it definitely is. My guess (and without wanting to be a smartass or to provoke anyone) is that whoever checked my submission only read the (poorly stated) description, because if he had listened to our album, I don't think he would say that this is not metal. So, I would appreciate a second chance if possible, please.

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aloof
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 5:57 pm 
 

me being curious again (sorries):

1.what was/happened to a UK band named Venom that were added yesterday?

2.why weren't(?) Masi on the archives until yesterday? what changed now?

(thanks) :)
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 6:00 pm 
 

elfstone321 wrote:
Hi guys I was wondering if Enlighted (Thomas Vikström band) from Argentina can be approved based on it's only digital EP (of almost 13 minutes), it is available for legit download here: http://www.dontpaymusic.com/enlighted/h ... i0OyOtGT1I and they are obvious metal. So what do you think? thanks

This band has been neither rejected nor blacklisted nor deleted, so you're basically asking us for a pre-check. Which you shouldn't do. Still, I'll bite... This short and you have to register to download? Sorry, no.

Parasight wrote:
Hi there,
Today I submitted my previous band Lifestock but it was rejected as non-metal. Well, the initial mistake is probably mine, as, without thinking much, I described our music as "hard/heavy rock". Well, that's a very broad term and one could say that it isn't actually accurate. Anyone can have a listen at https://lifestock.bandcamp.com/ and hear for themselves whether this is a metal sound or not; well, to my ears it definitely is. My guess (and without wanting to be a smartass or to provoke anyone) is that whoever checked my submission only read the (poorly stated) description, because if he had listened to our album, I don't think he would say that this is not metal. So, I would appreciate a second chance if possible, please.

We don't reject bands based on descriptions. I did listen to the music. It was more along the lines of heavy hard rock than metal (though certainly a mix of some sort), as I believe I specified in my rejection message.

aloof wrote:
me being curious again (sorries):

1.what was/happened to a UK band named Venom that were added yesterday?

2.why weren't(?) Masi on the archives until yesterday? what changed now?

(thanks) :)

1. viewtopic.php?p=2574556#p2574556 Basically part of a highly dubious "label"/person(s) known for plagiarising music and lying about several aspects of the bands. Quite shitty releases to boot, even if they are available for download on CDBaby. We decided to err on the side of caution on this one.

2. Alex Masi (the solo-project) has been listed since 2003, but contained info/releases belonging to both the solo effort and Masi (the band). The two are evidently distinct, with the latter having been submitted recently, thus splitting the entry (or rather me moving stuff from the older to the newer one).
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aloof
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 6:42 pm 
 

I see, thanks :) I thought it suspicious/stoopid that there'd be another black metal band from the uk named Venom, and wanted to look into it. but by the time I had the time, they were gone...
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VileWyvern
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 11:26 pm 
 

Morrigan wrote:
Connacht wrote:
Unlikely. This is symphonic black metal.

Are you fucking kidding me? :lol:

Not only it's not symphonic black metal, it's not remotely metal, period. Metantoine is 100% correct. No riffs = not metal.


snakefeast?

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TheLoneForest
Metalhead

Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:16 pm
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Location: Quebec
PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:02 am 
 

Noticed that This empty flow has been deleted...blacklist says?

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PDS
The Folk One

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:31 am 
 

Shoegaze/Ethereal Wave
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I dunno, I'm a guitarist and it always feels like playing a giant cock. Not just that but live music should hit you in the genitals. It might not if you don't use good amplifiers and your modelling shit goes straight out of the PA. But good music hits you HARD in the GENITALS.

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EpicDismemberment
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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2014 5:24 am
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Location: Thailand
PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:57 am 
 

Hi, Flaggelik Kommando 666 that was rejected, maybe because not enough song. I just found out they released first album through Doomsday Records (Mex.). Not an album that I added. So, please take your time and reconsider.

https://doomsdayrecords.bandcamp.com/al ... ando-mmxiv

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The Folk One

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 8:00 am 
 

Even if that album was metal, it's only 14 minutes, which isn't enough to get by digitally, even if one of the lenient mods went over the entry. Still mostly noise. Blacklist stays.
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Crossripper
Mallcore Kid

Joined: Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:40 pm
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Location: Colombia
PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:27 pm 
 

Noise/punk (early), Thrash/Black Metal (later)

current:
https://desecratorofevil.bandcamp.com/a ... or-of-evil

lastest album

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Futuresynner
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Joined: Sat Jan 06, 2007 4:07 am
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Location: Germany
PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 3:53 am 
 

Here's the proof for the existence for the rejected band HAZ's VINYL LP:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/262121525399?_tr ... EBIDX%3AIT
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~Guest 342682
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 6:37 pm 
 

Hail !
I'd like to resubmit my band Nostra Cantus ( was blacklisted and with the right reasons, 'cause there was black metal on that record buuut there was a lot of external influences too i can understand that ) to the encyclopeadia because theres a new release wich there's no influence from 70's prog or something else anymore, and the genre kind of change on this record, mixing Groove metal, with Black Metal, Death Metal and Doom the records it's calles The Atrophied Eyes from Mercy
Here's the link to proof the release of the record :
http://depressiveillusions.com/items/cd ... eyes-mercy
the digital release on Bandcamp:
https://dir666.bandcamp.com/album/the-a ... from-mercy
There's no doubt about the "Metalness" of this album, so i'd like to resubmit the band.
Many thanks !

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KriegdemKriege
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 7:23 am 
 

I would like to resubmit Taravana. They were rejected in the past, but their latest release, Prevail, is undoubtedly power metal with significant black and folk metal influences.

https://taravanamusic.bandcamp.com/

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delcev903
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Location: North Macedonia
PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 5:22 am 
 

Band "Serotonin" (Netherlands) is blacklisted. I don't know what is the reason but they released a full-lenght, and it is good example for blackened death metal...with drum machine :(

http://digitalserotonin.bandcamp.com/album/provoke

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Dark_Forever
Mallcore Kid

Joined: Sat Feb 24, 2007 12:11 pm
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Location: Portugal
PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 6:27 am 
 

Why is the dutch Symphonic Metal band End Of The Dream blacklisted? They're Metal and they've a full length released in March.

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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:10 am 
 

"Rock based, definitely heavy but not really metal."

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aloof
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 2:24 pm 
 

which side of the "not a metal band" did Spires Of The Lunar Sphere err on? I'm aware they're "weird" and not Iron Maiden or Black Sabbath, for.ex, but... ?

https://spiresofthelunarsphere.bandcamp.com/
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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 2:26 pm 
 

aloof wrote:
which side of the "not a metal band" did Spires Of The Lunar Sphere err on? I'm aware they're "weird" and not Iron Maiden or Black Sabbath, for.ex, but... ?

https://spiresofthelunarsphere.bandcamp.com/


Electronic Mathcore.
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aloof
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 2:33 pm 
 

okay :) thanks.
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IntoTheGarden
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 3:25 pm 
 

Hi guys! I'm new here, today I tried to add my band on the archive, but the system said, when I tried to write the name of my band, that was already been blacklisted, but i never added my band before!

Can someone help me? There is an email that I can contact?

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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 3:34 pm 
 

Someone else tried to add the band before, and it was probably blacklisted for not being metal enough.


What's the band?

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:26 pm 
 

Crossripper wrote:
Noise/punk (early), Thrash/Black Metal (later)

current:
https://desecratorofevil.bandcamp.com/a ... or-of-evil

lastest album

Whitelisted.

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Hail !
I'd like to resubmit my band Nostra Cantus ( was blacklisted and with the right reasons, 'cause there was black metal on that record buuut there was a lot of external influences too i can understand that ) to the encyclopeadia because theres a new release wich there's no influence from 70's prog or something else anymore, and the genre kind of change on this record, mixing Groove metal, with Black Metal, Death Metal and Doom the records it's calles The Atrophied Eyes from Mercy
Here's the link to proof the release of the record :
http://depressiveillusions.com/items/cd ... eyes-mercy
the digital release on Bandcamp:
https://dir666.bandcamp.com/album/the-a ... from-mercy
There's no doubt about the "Metalness" of this album, so i'd like to resubmit the band.
Many thanks !

Whitelisted.

KriegdemKriege wrote:
I would like to resubmit Taravana. They were rejected in the past, but their latest release, Prevail, is undoubtedly power metal with significant black and folk metal influences.

https://taravanamusic.bandcamp.com/

There's maybe 2-3 tracks with metal riffs on this (and even those are a bit iffy), the rest is symphonic piano stuff. I'm not too keen on whitelisting this based on an ambiguous-at-best release.

delcev903 wrote:
Band "Serotonin" (Netherlands) is blacklisted. I don't know what is the reason but they released a full-lenght, and it is good example for blackened death metal...with drum machine :(

http://digitalserotonin.bandcamp.com/album/provoke

Old blacklisting, no note included. Might be another band from the same country or their first real metal release. Whitelisted in any event.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:59 pm 
 

Thanks a lot, i'll be resubmitting !

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KriegdemKriege
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 10:18 am 
 

Azmodes wrote:
KriegdemKriege wrote:
I would like to resubmit Taravana. They were rejected in the past, but their latest release, Prevail, is undoubtedly power metal with significant black and folk metal influences.

https://taravanamusic.bandcamp.com/

There's maybe 2-3 tracks with metal riffs on this (and even those are a bit iffy), the rest is symphonic piano stuff. I'm not too keen on whitelisting this based on an ambiguous-at-best release.


I'm assuming the tracks you are talking about are "Endurance," "Prevail," and "Owned By the Ocean." I agree with you that they are the only tracks on the album with metal riffs (although I would call "Cape Evans" a Gamma Ray-esque power metal ballad - see "Farewell" and "Pray"), but considering there are really only 5 songs on this album (the two short interludes and the outro are for atmosphere and are not the main focus of the album), these 3 songs are significant. The instrumental "Until You Slip Away" isn't any different from At the Gates's "And the World Returned" or hundreds of other examples of non-metal instrumentals on metal albums. If we're playing a percentage game, these three tracks make the album more than 50% metal, and more than 75% if we count "Cape Evans" (and I think we should).

I'd like to make it clear that I am in no way affiliated with Taravana and have nothing to gain from their being included in the database. I'm just a fan who think their blacklisting is unfair. What do you think?

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IAmTheGospel
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:31 pm 
 

Noticed the band Skogsande is black listed. Not sure why. Digital EP longer than 20 minutes. Ambient black metal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUMKm3Ojw5s

https://kareliannokken.bandcamp.com/alb ... illh-ll-ep

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Alhadis
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Location: Australia
PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:42 pm 
 

IAmTheGospel wrote:
Noticed the band Skogsande is black listed. Not sure why. Digital EP longer than 20 minutes. Ambient black metal.

Two tracks were ambient, only one was black metal. Not a predominantly metallic release.

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TheLoneForest
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Location: Quebec
PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:01 am 
 

https://elksworthmusic.bandcamp.com/album/father-elk

Great Cold Emptiness has been blacklisted, but can I resubmit? The new album is definitely metal enough.

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 12:11 pm 
 

KriegdemKriege wrote:
I'm assuming the tracks you are talking about are "Endurance," "Prevail," and "Owned By the Ocean." I agree with you that they are the only tracks on the album with metal riffs (although I would call "Cape Evans" a Gamma Ray-esque power metal ballad - see "Farewell" and "Pray"), but considering there are really only 5 songs on this album (the two short interludes and the outro are for atmosphere and are not the main focus of the album), these 3 songs are significant. The instrumental "Until You Slip Away" isn't any different from At the Gates's "And the World Returned" or hundreds of other examples of non-metal instrumentals on metal albums. If we're playing a percentage game, these three tracks make the album more than 50% metal, and more than 75% if we count "Cape Evans" (and I think we should).

I'd like to make it clear that I am in no way affiliated with Taravana and have nothing to gain from their being included in the database. I'm just a fan who think their blacklisting is unfair. What do you think?

About the percentage game: Let's not. I talked it over with some other mods and the consensus was that it's just not conclusive. I understand that some of those non-metal tracks are shorter interludes (not all, though), but even the more metallic tracks leave some to be desired. Add to that previous releases that are clearly unacceptable and this band as a whole is not acceptable at this point. Sorry.
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IntoTheGarden
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 1:52 pm 
 

The band that I tried to add is Search For Light.
With our 28 minutes demo, with both digital and physical edition. And I think is Metal enough

http://searchforlight.bandcamp.com/releases

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 1:59 pm 
 

Do you have evidence for the physical release?
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charlie0x0
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Location: Spain
PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 3:35 pm 
 

I tried to add No Sanctuary (Spain). Why is it blacklisted?

Physical release:
https://www.facebook.com/NoSanctuaryBan ... =3&theater

Music samples:
http://nosanctuaryband.bandcamp.com/releases

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 3:49 pm 
 

D-beat punk.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 4:20 pm 
 

@Azmodes

Here it is, excuse if the file too big, but I don't know how to upload it in different way
Spoiler: show
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Last edited by Azmodes on Thu Dec 03, 2015 4:55 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 4:51 pm 
 

A single blank CD-R is hardly evidence. We need some proof that this is being publicly distributed in some quantities. How many made? How are copies being sold? Any mention of the physical release online? Any distros? Reviews?
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TheLoneForest
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 6:29 pm 
 

TheLoneForest wrote:
https://elksworthmusic.bandcamp.com/album/father-elk

Great Cold Emptiness has been blacklisted, but can I resubmit? The new album is definitely metal enough.


Can the blacklist be stated for this again? Just making sure I can submit this again

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Azmodes
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The note is "Symphonic epic synth stuff that only sparsely uses guitar synths." as of May 2015 and we'll listen to this new release soon.
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IntoTheGarden
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 11:05 am 
 

Azmodes wrote:
A single blank CD-R is hardly evidence. We need some proof that this is being publicly distributed in some quantities. How many made? How are copies being sold? Any mention of the physical release online? Any distros? Reviews?


Our demo is self produced and indipendent, we have no labels or distros behind us. We are distributing by hand to the people we want or to the ones who contact us for a copy. We don't sell it, it has no price. But if someone want to make an offer, we could accept it. In my house there are 4 copies of it. I dont know how many copies have the other member of the band. There are almost 1000 km of distance between us.
We are waiting for some reviews by two italian webzines.

We will release copies every time that there will be request.

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TheLoneForest
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 2:46 pm 
 

Azmodes wrote:
The note is "Symphonic epic synth stuff that only sparsely uses guitar synths." as of May 2015 and we'll listen to this new release soon.


Thanks. The new release has been delayed 'till January. I will have it on the site, and I will post a link for the review.

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