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elfstone321
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Location: Mexico
PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:28 am 
 

why is Eisen Dragon blacklisted?? they have relesed their cd yesterday, see their facebook -> the first post:

Les informo que el disco eisen dragon (ters of a warrior) ya esta disponible .....

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Eisen-Dra ... 5041372011

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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:43 am 
 

Unblacklisted.

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Lunaroth
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:59 pm 
 

Hails Alhadis.

Yes bro, The band was rejected for having more ambient songs,
Now this demo is more Pagan / Black Metal. Only the "Finale" is instrumental ambient.
But the 3 songs on the demo are very aggressive. Would be happy to send you the songs.

Greetings and Hails!

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felinarcotika
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:06 pm 
 

I'm going to submit this band... but before I want to know if is this band "metally" enough for metal archives.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1Ou0VfLcKQ

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MalignantThrone
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:15 pm 
 

This thread isn't made to ask whether a band will be rejected before you send them to the queue. Just submit them, and if they get rejected then you can use this thread to object if you disagree.
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padshiyangel01
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Location: United Kingdom
PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:22 am 
 

Just went to submit the US band Labyrinthe as they're not in the Archives, and saw they were blacklisted. Wondering what the issue is with them? They have a début out on CD, and despite being deathcore have sufficient death metal elements that, in my eyes, mean they can be in the Archives. Maybe not my musical taste, but for the sake of completeness. ;)

Plus, song referencing that famous scene in Evil Dead? Definite bonus points:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPvQE-7oJ5I

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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:53 am 
 

Lunaroth wrote:
Hails Alhadis.

Yes bro, The band was rejected for having more ambient songs,
Now this demo is more Pagan / Black Metal. Only the "Finale" is instrumental ambient.
But the 3 songs on the demo are very aggressive. Would be happy to send you the songs.

Greetings and Hails!

... erh... well? I'm waiting for a PM. :lol: You going to send me the tracks or not?

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...despite being deathcore have sufficient death metal elements that, in my eyes, mean they can be in the Archives

And 99% of the time, whenever somebody comes up and says "Hey, I think this band is metal enough, how come they're blacklisted...?", the band has already been discussed and decided upon. Nagging about it isn't going to affect anything but our tolerance levels. ;)

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padshiyangel01
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:04 am 
 

padshiyangel01 wrote:
And 99% of the time, whenever somebody comes up and says "Hey, I think this band is metal enough, how come they're blacklisted...?", the band has already been discussed and decided upon. Nagging about it isn't going to affect anything but our tolerance levels. ;)



Normally, I'd be inclined to agree with you, but I did a search on "Labyrinthe" and got nothing. If there's been previous discussion, feel free to enlighten me!

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sakuzu
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:16 pm 
 

Hello everybody,

the band hidе with Spread Beaver (http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/hid ... 3540351088) is blacklisted.

I think this is a mistake, cause the 1st album of the band , "Hide your face" , is an heavy metal album.
just listen the following samples, please:

1st album "Hide your face" samples:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF_VWakWxRk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q20TmMx ... sults_main
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiGJgXo ... ults_video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6BBPxI6Seg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRMNnHH53b4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5d4rB_ASzE4

For more, just see the submission notes I've write in the band's page
Thanks for the attention

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OpsiusCato
Mexican Metal Inquisition

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:52 pm 
 

hide (always in lower case!) with Spread Beaver is considered not metallic enough, and being formed after X Japan's "retirement", doesn't qualify as a side project.

However, I've been curious about that band (X Japan fan!), so I'll give it a try, and see if I agree with you. Can't promise anything, though.
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sakuzu
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 2:21 pm 
 

Ok, thanks!

P.S: hide with Spread Beaver was formed in 1993, when X Japan was active (in the same year they released Art of life), so I think it's a side project of course

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OpsiusCato
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 2:23 pm 
 

Are you sure about the year? Absolutely sure? Can you prove it? This is important information, son!
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sakuzu
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 2:47 pm 
 

Absolutely yes! That's the prove:

http://www.hide-city.com/discography/?c ... ingle&id=1 (official website)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hide_%28m ... 998:_Death

1st two singles and hide's first solo publications were the singles b]50%&50%[/b] and Eyes love you released both on 1993.08.05

1st full-length Hide your face was released on 1994.02.23:
http://www.hide-city.com/discography/?c ... album&id=5

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OpsiusCato
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 2:53 pm 
 

Great! Thank you.

I'll get to it soon.
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PhiloFrog, making accurate statements as usual, wrote:
Opsius is Metal as fuck.

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sakuzu
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 2:55 pm 
 

Thank you so much!

Please, tell me when I can re-submit the band.

Again, thank you!

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Morrigan
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:18 pm 
 

I'm pretty sure that band was already discussed...
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SUFREMADRE
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Joined: Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:31 am
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 8:05 am 
 

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Lidande/246936135324834



this band needs to be unblacklisted, departure was released in 16 copies and is long gone and unattainable, there is proof of the newer releases , the third bring metal!

all info on page

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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 8:11 am 
 

SUFREMADRE wrote:
this band needs to be unblacklisted

Hah. Not going to happen. Read back a bit through the last couple pages of this thread, and it'll be evident why.

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SUFREMADRE
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 8:14 am 
 

there is proof of the second release on trinitas sanctus, departure was on tape and is was on this site for four years straight and i cant find the actual picture of the demo tape itself, and the third is being spread in special cd r format with special paper etc(and a cd/lp) version possibly in the future. there is no more reason to deny this, in fact they are many cd r and internet releases on metal archives..



obviously you are stuck in the past

Lidande has released one demo... and two full lengths that are official
...
The following are unofficial, side projects, unreleased collaborations, and stolen material

Manny's side project:
Deep Stare - Para la enfermedad de Vivir (2007)
Deep Stare - Beyond the void (2010)
The Evangelist - s/t


unreleased collaborations (usa/ita/swe):
Lidande - Delusion Ritual (2010)

bootleg/fake/unreleased:
Innate Cold (2010)
Empty Void Embrace (2010)
Eternity (2011)
Lidande - Afterglare (2011) A series of events musical sermon warfare
Lidande - Audial Murder (2011) a remix of delusion ritual
Lidande - Air (2011) tracks from Trist's unreleased "Svetlo" & "Tma" mix
Lidande - Afterglare version's 1-4 / Afterglare (2009)
Thine Art/Lid/Oh Father (2012)



Band is now labeled as "The Divine Suffering" but, is still under the name Lidande


Departure demo tape 2006 lost (Manny - Vocals, Alex - Battery, Guitars)
Unspoken cd/dvd 2012 (Manuel Christopher Quiza - Guitars, Ambient, Sound)
Heavenly Metal 2013 (Manuel Christopher Quiza - Vocals, Guitars, Drums, Ambient, Sound)

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SUFREMADRE
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 8:15 am 
 

i have many people that would back me up on this, and yet people have to focus on the negative parts and small issues of the band which were cleared out

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SUFREMADRE
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 8:24 am 
 

So, whats the problem now? I got the label with the cd's released i got dozens of people that would back me up , is there anything else this site does not want the band up as an entirety.

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SUFREMADRE
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 8:25 am 
 

i think its better to leave personal issues out of the picture and just view the band as the band.

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Fulgurius
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 11:19 am 
 

SUFREMADRE wrote:
So, whats the problem now? I got the label with the cd's released i got dozens of people that would back me up , is there anything else this site does not want the band up as an entirety.

So, listen here, idiot. There was a second part in the email you quoted, where I've told you that the problem is that your samples aren't even remotely close to metal. As I've told you before, you simply have no idea how to play guitar and what metal riffing is.
For the things that you've done - stealing other people's music, faking releases and constantly lying - you should not be tolerated. I recommend you to give up your dreams about getting a page on MA and turn to something else, or - what will be much better - kill yourself (oh, and probably some people here aren't aware that this asshole has spread the rumours about his own suicide in the past). The people like you should be publicly castrated (at least) or electrocuted (publicly as well). These are the videos that I would prefer to see on youtube instead of your so called "music".
So, to sum it up, we aren't going to unblacklist your band and we aren't going to accept any "side projects" you are going to submit. What we can do is to create a sort of "Hall of Shame" thread somewhere on this forum with the list of "bands" that have stolen the music (yeah, there are others like you in the facebook kinderground), and you will undoubtedly get the first and the longest post there with the details about your gay deeds.
I encourage everyone reading this to spread the information about this faggot on other forums and sites where he posts his "music". The world should know the "heroes".

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SUFREMADRE
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 11:34 am 
 

Your still hung over that I used Trist's track on that bootleg demo "Air"

boohoo

Fulgurius wrote:
SUFREMADRE wrote:
So, whats the problem now? I got the label with the cd's released i got dozens of people that would back me up , is there anything else this site does not want the band up as an entirety.

So, listen here, idiot. There was a second part in the email you quoted, where I've told you that the problem is that your samples aren't even remotely close to metal. As I've told you before, you simply have no idea how to play guitar and what metal riffing is.
For the things that you've done - stealing other people's music, faking releases and constantly lying - you should not be tolerated. I recommend you to give up your dreams about getting a page on MA and turn to something else, or - what will be much better - kill yourself (oh, and probably some people here aren't aware that this asshole has spread the rumours about his own suicide in the past). The people like you should be publicly castrated (at least) or electrocuted (publicly as well). These are the videos that I would prefer to see on youtube instead of your so called "music".
So, to sum it up, we aren't going to unblacklist your band and we aren't going to accept any "side projects" you are going to submit. What we can do is to create a sort of "Hall of Shame" thread somewhere on this forum with the list of "bands" that have stolen the music (yeah, there are others like you in the facebook kinderground), and you will undoubtedly get the first and the longest post there with the details about your gay deeds.
I encourage everyone reading this to spread the information about this faggot on other forums and sites where he posts his "music". The world should know the "heroes".

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SUFREMADRE
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 11:35 am 
 

by the way its called vision and being original

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SUFREMADRE
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 11:39 am 
 

There is nothing fake about any of my releases, that is unless if you have a close minded point of view and are a perfectionist, self absorbed being who has not a clue about anything at all except being a hypocrite , you would be surprised how much support I have from the people you "think" were not involved

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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 11:48 am 
 

Enough. Sufremadre, we're sick of your drama, and this forum isn't the place for it. Fulgurius has already made his point *extremely* clear - and repeatedly so.

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MetalCuresHeadaches
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 1:41 pm 
 

Why is HB from Finland blacklisted? I tried searching the forums, but HB isn't a long enough search term
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Metantoine
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 1:53 pm 
 

SUFREMADRE wrote:
There is nothing fake about any of my releases, that is unless if you have a close minded point of view and are a perfectionist, self absorbed being who has not a clue about anything at all except being a hypocrite , you would be surprised how much support I have from the people you "think" were not involved

Another post in this forum and you'll be banned. That's also quite clear.
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MalignantThrone
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:16 pm 
 

MetalCuresHeadaches wrote:
Why is HB from Finland blacklisted? I tried searching the forums, but HB isn't a long enough search term

viewtopic.php?p=1967436#p1967436
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SUFREMADRE
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:20 pm 
 

Metantoine wrote:
SUFREMADRE wrote:
There is nothing fake about any of my releases, that is unless if you have a close minded point of view and are a perfectionist, self absorbed being who has not a clue about anything at all except being a hypocrite , you would be surprised how much support I have from the people you "think" were not involved

Another post in this forum and you'll be banned. That's also quite clear.



:nods: :) :)

You would have no power to ban me unless it were given to from above

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Metantoine
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:32 pm 
 

Not really
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MetalCuresHeadaches
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:28 pm 
 

MalignantThrone wrote:
MetalCuresHeadaches wrote:
Why is HB from Finland blacklisted? I tried searching the forums, but HB isn't a long enough search term

viewtopic.php?p=1967436#p1967436


Well, not a decision I agree with, but complaining about a decision from Morrigan won't accomplish anything.
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f_o_a_d_Scum
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 11:38 am 
 

gloria satanas: it exists because I have the demo...
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9 ... cCofNw&t=1

is the coverart...I can take a picture and upload copy of the cover + demo if needed

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 11:40 am 
 

f_o_a_d_Scum wrote:
is the coverart...I can take a picture and upload copy of the cover + demo if needed

Please do.
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f_o_a_d_Scum
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 3:29 pm 
 

Gloria satanas http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid= ... =3&theater
in the middle on the bottom you see a copy of the demo

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Azmodes
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f_o_a_d_Scum wrote:
Gloria satanas http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid= ... =3&theater
in the middle on the bottom you see a copy of the demo

Resubmit.
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MetalCuresHeadaches
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:59 pm 
 

Side Project question (yeah, yeah, "not the right thread", but this was the closest one I could find without spamming a new thread somewhere):
If an alternative rock side project meets all the requirements (physical release, worldwide distribution, side project of a member of a well-known band), would it be accepted, or does alt. rock fall too far from the metal vibe of the site?
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Derigin
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 12:10 am 
 

It depends on a number of factors, but they all narrow down to one point: would it make sense to include it in a metal encyclopedia? The reason we lean towards accepting (as exceptions) non-metal side-projects from notable musicians, or even in some cases non-metal projects like Mortiis, is because we feel such projects fit within the metal scene, have metal listenership, and overall would help this encyclopedia to a more "complete" encyclopedia of all-things-metal. Perhaps the side-project you gave might be that, it matters less on its genre, and more on that.

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MrPtomain
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Location: Serbia
PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:55 am 
 

hello ,We tried to put my band,to your page.I came out warning ( has been blacklisted) if I can, to know the reason ,my band is Rotten Rectum from serbia ,We worked with the bands who in your archive

http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Vo ... gus/333327

http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Be ... tum/209009

There are band members from the band eris, Rotten Rectum is a project of the band. thanks in advance

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