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oogboog
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 5:53 pm 
 

I don't know if this is exactly point-whoring, but can warn these users to not add track lengths one-by-one?


http://www.metal-archives.com/history/v ... /id/337034
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but not sub-genes of death metal ( like grindcore and black metal).

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HouseSpiders
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Location: United Kingdom
PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 11:32 am 
 

1000th reply :-D
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"Pointwhoring is no fun. Pointwhoring endangers the life and happiness of millions. It must stop. We appeal in particular to the youth of today, stop the madness. There are better things in life."


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Alhadis
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Joined: Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:35 am
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Location: Melbourne, Australia
PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 12:16 pm 
 

Thank you for that useful input. Are you going to make a habit of this, or are you going to take it to 4chan next time? :p
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And you says that metal is about the riffs, that is bollocks, cause then black and death bands wouldn't get accepted, cause the play termolo-riffs.

they payl termolo! not real riff!

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OpsiusCato
Mexican Metal Inquisition

Joined: Thu Oct 05, 2006 4:42 am
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 7:13 pm 
 

If a user adds the lyrics for 4 songs in five minutes (saving each lyric a little over a minute after the previous one), shall we consider he is adding lyrics one by one and/or point-whoring?
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oogboog
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 7:22 pm 
 

OpsiusCato wrote:
If a user adds the lyrics for 4 songs in five minutes (saving each lyric a little over a minute after the previous one), shall we consider he is adding lyrics one by one and/or point-whoring?


It should, since adding lyrics one-by-one, regardless of the time in-between, is point-whoring.

Did you see anyone do it?
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but not sub-genes of death metal ( like grindcore and black metal).

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OpsiusCato
Mexican Metal Inquisition

Joined: Thu Oct 05, 2006 4:42 am
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Location: Mexico
PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 8:05 pm 
 

Yes, Tlacaxipehualiztli did it on Agent Steel's "Live at Dynamo" DVD on March. I noticed it a few minutes ago, while fixing a few song lengths.
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oogboog
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 8:09 pm 
 

He's been doing to others. Send him a warning, then.


http://www.metal-archives.com/users/Tlacaxipehualiztli
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but not sub-genes of death metal ( like grindcore and black metal).

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OpsiusCato
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 8:12 pm 
 

oogboog wrote:
Send him a warning, then.


Wouldn't that be mini-modding?
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MalignantThrone
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 8:14 pm 
 

I don't think he meant for you to send him a warning. :P
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oogboog
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 8:15 pm 
 

OpsiusCato wrote:
oogboog wrote:
Send him a warning, then.


Wouldn't that be mini-modding?


Well, the mods can't catch every user that's suspected of point-whoring. What the guy's doing is clearly against the rules of MA, so that should be brought up.

But I don't know if a non-mod demanding for a warning sent is really mini-modding. Maybe someone could clarify.


MalignantThrone wrote:
I don't think he meant for you to send him a warning. :P


Like I can do that.
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japc
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 8:18 pm 
 

Misunderstanding alert.
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OpsiusCato
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 8:23 pm 
 

Anyways, since I've already mentioned this here, and you've been kind enough to corroborate it, a mod would warn him later (my mod of choice would be Evenfiel, since that's the one mod that I fear the most).
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MalignantThrone
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 8:26 pm 
 

Whaaaat? Evenfiel is cool! :(

Anyways, I assume that when reporting people on this page, some action is always taken by the moderators if that person's truly point-whoring/doing the wrong thing, so I don't think asking for a user to be warned is mini-modding, since it's on the same level as asking for a band to be un-blacklisted based on physical release/metalness. It's the mod that has to take action, after all.
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OpsiusCato
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 8:37 pm 
 

I didn't say that he is not cool; I said he's the one I fear the most. :-D
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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 9:02 pm 
 

Warning sent, people. :p Y'can all relax now.
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J_Ason wrote:
grinder12345 wrote:
And you says that metal is about the riffs, that is bollocks, cause then black and death bands wouldn't get accepted, cause the play termolo-riffs.

they payl termolo! not real riff!

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Evenfiel
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Joined: Tue May 27, 2003 9:50 am
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Location: Brazil
PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 9:17 pm 
 

OpsiusCato wrote:
I didn't say that he is not cool; I said he's the one I fear the most. :-D

I didn't know that I was capable of inspiring fear. :lol:

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OpsiusCato
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 10:29 pm 
 

Well, you are, sir.
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Porman
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 6:09 am 
 

You should be. All us mods are on the left hand path and hold powers unimaginable to you!
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 6:57 am 
 

Evenfiel is in fact quite cuddly. It's the Gaunt you should fear.
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OpsiusCato
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 1:34 pm 
 

Desesperanza is an idiot. Just found an Agathocles release in which he added (on July, 2011) a lineup completely different to the one on the additional notes. I think I remember reading he was banned, right?

EDIT: As I was adding what was mentioned on the additional notes, it turns out that the guys mentioned as guitarist and bassist are listed as bassist and drummer, respectively, on the lineup. I'll start looking for info.

EDIT 2: Maaaaaan, those are really too many releases! I've been updating the ones that have the lineup mentioned on their site, but it's gonna take more than I thought.
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Uncolored, on greeting people wrote:
Salutations are for pussies. Only fuck offing people is real
Uncolored, on being his birthday wrote:
Today is King of Underground's come to earth anniversary, now apologize for your miscreant behaviour!


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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 1:38 pm 
 

OpsiusCato wrote:
Desesperanza is an idiot. Just found an Agathocles release in which he added (on July, 2011) a lineup completely different to the one on the additional notes. I think I remember reading he was banned, right?

He was banned alright, but now he has two points again. I think that might be due to a bug with giving points for reports. He hasn't modified anything since his ban, though. I can't durst users, but I'm sure someone who can will do it soon enough.
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Derigin
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Location: Canada
PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 1:47 pm 
 

Dursted again.

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Dolor666
Metal newbie

Joined: Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:31 am
Posts: 193
Location: Belgium
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 10:48 am 
 

Can you get rid off this fu**er called Celticmoon

He added fake line-ups for Ithilien releases! at least the 1st EP.

If you check the page in V1, Mutch was the drummer when the page was created so it's at least him who played on the EP, NOT Thomas

Same for Thibault

I remember adding those members end 2011 so they both joined between august and december 2011

http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/It ... len/299437

Check also the EP, he added ALL the members in the line-up with the note "Many Recordings with all members of Ithillien"

Its PURE VANDALISM and he should be kicked out of here ...

easy to get 1660 points by adding tons of shits

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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 10:56 am 
 

Warning sent.
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J_Ason wrote:
grinder12345 wrote:
And you says that metal is about the riffs, that is bollocks, cause then black and death bands wouldn't get accepted, cause the play termolo-riffs.

they payl termolo! not real riff!

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Dolor666
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Joined: Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:31 am
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Location: Belgium
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 11:10 am 
 

Alhadis wrote:
Warning sent.


Sorry to tell you but HAVE BALLS and ban him for good... I think its not the 1st time he's mentioned here, he surely added tons of shit on other pages and, like others, he will surely ignore your warning and keep adding shits again and again.

For such cases (its VANDALISM here, adding fake info, not pure stupidity), there should not even be a single warning, directly capital punishment

Warnings should be for smaller acts like adding track lengths one by one or lyrics or stupid little mistakes but not for vandalism "Adding incorrect line-ups is a bannable offense" is written in bold.

Well now its your problem if you want to keep eyes closed for such things but since V2 is here such acts of adding tons of album line-ups has multiplied and soon M-A will have more wrong info than correct...

:ugh:

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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 12:01 pm 
 

I can't ban users, mate. I'll bring this to the attention of somebody who can, though. ;)
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J_Ason wrote:
grinder12345 wrote:
And you says that metal is about the riffs, that is bollocks, cause then black and death bands wouldn't get accepted, cause the play termolo-riffs.

they payl termolo! not real riff!

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Dolor666
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 12:34 pm 
 

Alhadis wrote:
I can't ban users, mate. I'll bring this to the attention of somebody who can, though. ;)


:) sorry if I was a bit excited, its not against you, you're doing a good job, its just frustrating to see such idiots adding tons of shit just to get extra points whereas other serious people do their best to make M-A as reliable as possible

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Derigin
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 5:18 pm 
 

Gone ahead and banned Celticmoon.

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Jakko
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 4:48 am 
 

I don't know if this brings points but why the hell is aaauuuuu (again..) changing the names of the links???

Dust and Darkness@MySpace => MySpace
Dust and Darkness@Facebook=>Facebook

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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 4:54 am 
 

He's doing what users are encouraged to be doing; trimming extraneous prefixes from link names if they don't offer anything the reader hasn't already figured out.

"Official MySpace"...? Yeah, that's already listed under a tab named "Official".
"Dust and Darkness @ MySpace"...? Well, probably isn't gonna be ANOTHER band's MySpace...
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grinder12345 wrote:
And you says that metal is about the riffs, that is bollocks, cause then black and death bands wouldn't get accepted, cause the play termolo-riffs.

they payl termolo! not real riff!

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oogboog
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 3:39 pm 
 

Alhadis wrote:
He's doing what users are encouraged to be doing; trimming extraneous prefixes from link names if they don't offer anything the reader hasn't already figured out.

"Official MySpace"...? Yeah, that's already listed under a tab named "Official".
"Dust and Darkness @ MySpace"...? Well, probably isn't gonna be ANOTHER band's MySpace...



What about the band's official site? I've been listing it as "Official Site" for some time now, but being that it is under the "official" tab, that would seem redundant. I think you have changed some links to "Official Site" also. What should we do about that?
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Derigin
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 2:07 am 
 

There's no official policy on link naming conventions yet. Go with the practice you feel that is best, and I'll let aaauuuuu know to stop that activity and to work on something more productive and useful (eg. we have 1500 reports that could use some help!).

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Zorg85
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 1:39 pm 
 

On Vampyric Blood page, HORNSandHOOVES removed the info about line-up ...

The only member is Lord of Shadow (and said to be Molestor Kadotus), if LoS is not Molestor Kadotus, then he should at least re-enrer Lord of Shadow - Everything instead of deleting everything ...

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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 7:15 pm 
 

oogboog wrote:
What about the band's official site? I've been listing it as "Official Site" for some time now, but being that it is under the "official" tab, that would seem redundant. I think you have changed some links to "Official Site" also. What should we do about that?

I honestly think "Home Page" would work better, but I just can't shake my habit of naming it "Official Site".

Derigin's right though, if anybody feels like pitching in, there's always the report queue that needs dire attention. Links can wait!
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grinder12345 wrote:
And you says that metal is about the riffs, that is bollocks, cause then black and death bands wouldn't get accepted, cause the play termolo-riffs.

they payl termolo! not real riff!

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HouseSpiders
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Location: United Kingdom
PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 4:44 pm 
 

Urrgh! Lyrics & Lengths one by one.

http://www.metal-archives.com/users/AnalTorture
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"Pointwhoring is no fun. Pointwhoring endangers the life and happiness of millions. It must stop. We appeal in particular to the youth of today, stop the madness. There are better things in life."

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Derigin
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Location: Canada
PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 6:10 pm 
 

Warned.

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Haat888
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Joined: Fri May 02, 2008 1:35 pm
Posts: 100
Location: Portugal
PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 4:22 pm 
 

bloodbathizer added track lengths 1 by 1 on Bursthead page

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Caliginosity
Philosopher of Metal

Joined: Tue May 15, 2007 5:29 pm
Posts: 258
Location: United States
PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 4:56 pm 
 

I warned bloodbathizer

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Zorg85
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Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:02 am
Posts: 674
Location: Austria
PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 5:47 am 
 

Antioch started adding links to Lost Soul Domain on all bands starting with A

This links are useless and don"t bring new information about bands

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Haat888
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Joined: Fri May 02, 2008 1:35 pm
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Location: Portugal
PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2012 6:56 am 
 

Can you ask elfstone321 not to be the 2nd DreadlockMocio?

http://www.metal-archives.com/artists/S ... m|a/429764 this photo sucks and it's not the 1st time I need to change some pics he added, there are always many better photos to be found if you spend more than 10 seconds looking for one...

Facebook for example ...

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