http://www.metal-archives.com/history/v ... ilter/data

One of the two latest updates (Nov 3-14) is wrong. Not to mention the unnecessary word "issues" to begin with. But still, for future cases where more than one word of that type is used for one lyrical theme, it should be pointed out who is right in order to avoid back and forth changes.

And on the note of one of the users above and lyrical themes: granted it's a year ago, but it should be pointed out that adding Comedy and Parody to the lyrical themes field when there was already Humor added (by the same user a few minutes earlier...) is clearly redundant.

http://www.metal-archives.com/history/v ... ilter/data

http://www.metal-archives.com/users/KC

Label owner adding tons of generic, home-page links to this label's website and Bandcamp to band pages.

Cleansed all his links up to Albatross band.

http://www.metal-archives.com/users/patofloyd

Added redundant notes on these two version of this EP

http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Ma ... mon/617503
http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Ma ... mon/617504

Cleansed all his work, but he need some warning/advice IMO.

Reporting here because it's urgent. I know it's not the right thread.

http://www.metal-archives.com/report/view/id/584377
I've changed the guy's name, and I swear he had like a dozen bands attached to his profile. Now he has nada, and is only linked to drafts. What's going on here?
http://www.metal-archives.com/artists/M ... onen/12881

maybe they were moved here & here?

http://www.metal-archives.com/search?se ... tist_alias

EDIT: apparently, it's a mess. I've found some info that can help to separate the two:

https://www.discogs.com/artist/1252124-Mikko-P-Mustonen
Ensiferum, born 1978

https://www.discogs.com/artist/3239868-Mikko-Mustonen-3
http://en.metalship.org/artists/120-Mikko_Mustonen
Enthrope, born 1979

Possibly. If so, I think the name should be Mikko A. Mustonen. Otherwise, I've no idea what the report was about.

Please inform cranialcrusherabc not to capitalize Spanish (as well as some other like Norwegian, German etc as I've found) titles like English, I'm onto correcting his edits now.

Diamhea got to it.

Isn't it redundant to add things like "limited edition" to releases that already have a limit of copies specified in the Limitation field, "music and lyrics by [band of the release]", and/or "Bandcamp" to digital releases since it's hardly the case that every digital store offering the same album have their own version on this site?

I noticed Paw seem to be doing all those things.
http://www.metal-archives.com/users/Paw

Examples of those three things:
http://www.metal-archives.com/history/v ... /id/233575
http://www.metal-archives.com/history/v ... /id/588482
http://www.metal-archives.com/history/v ... /id/613730

No. Haven't we been over this? When you are viewing the "other versions" tab the limitation doesn't show up on each release unless you click on it. It's a good practice to simply put it whenever there is a limitation, for clarity and convenience's sake.



Yes. This is redundant and entirely pointless to mention.



Bandcamp isn't the only digital vendor we recognize, and with the constant whitewashing of digital releases it is important to document this thoroughly.

First I've read this.
- viewtopic.php?p=2593192#p2593192



Too redundant? Most of the bands before they start recording, they started to writing music even lyrics. Shouldn't at Recording Information Fields I think.

Old example: http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Da ... l_Moon/628

Uh, well that credits Darkthrone as a collective for a producer, he's talking about saying "All songs written by band X," which is indeed pointless.

Sometimes you get this when there is a cover song, let's say "Rainbow in the Dark." All songs written by band X except track 9 written by Ronnie James Dio and Vivian Campbell...

... no shit.

raoulduke25
- adds lyrics 1-by-1,
- but saves track lengths in one or two clicks nonetheless, to show some balance perhaps.
A mild warning won't hurt, methinks.

In what evidence is current Power from Hell status based on? As far as I know, Aron Romero was arrested for trying to rape a 16 year old girl. Also, none of his bands positioned themselves, although Power from Hell's facebook page appears to be active again. I suppose band's status should remain "unknown".

I also noticed that there are some (probably fake) users flagging reports regarding Aron Romero's situation, arguing that he is not in jail anymore. So far, I have not heard anything regarding his supposed liberation. Have any of you?

Removed for now. The evidence provided was shaky given the seriousness of the accusation. Probably just someone who has a beef with the artist trying to ruin his reputation.

As far as I know, based on national news, he actually was charged for trying to rape a child girl.

What about current Power from Hell status? Considering the present situation, I think "unknown" is more proper than "active".

Yup, since he is the primary member of the band.

Alright.

Can you provide direct evidence of this?

This is the only evidence in english I found (although I do not agree with the way it was written): https://darksoulsunited.wordpress.com/2 ... fe-rapist/

This is a local news website, in portuguese (Guarulhos is the city it happened): http://www.guarulhosweb.com.br/noticia. ... mem+detido

TV news, also in portuguese: http://noticias.band.uol.com.br/brasilu ... ritar.html

I had the following links saved, but both videos were removed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_W-zpB ... e=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_N-4fVBMXs (removed due to copyrights violation)

Additionally, other sources tell that he already was charged for abusing girls from a school he used to work at and some say he was fired after that. I cannot confirm this, even though there are A LOT of accusations regarding such abuses at this school on facebook pages and others.

The following website mentions that Mr. Luis Carlos, chief of the security department, confirmed he was arrested. He also mentions that Aron is a pedophile and was fired from the school he used to work due to abusing a girl, as I mentioned.

http://www.atomicmetal.com.br/aron-sodo ... stuprador/

Additionally, I have this printscreen from Luis Carlos' facebook which shows a text he posted back then when Aron was arrested. I couldn't find any other post of him regardin this case, though.

http://imgur.com/a/clMht

Just to make things clear, I do not agree with Aron's actions and I despise any sort of abuse, sexism, prejudice and so on. My posts here are just to inform you about what is going on here in Brazil regarding this rape case.

http://www.metal-archives.com/users/brankonan

Adds lyrics one by one. Look at his modification history.

Regarding Power From Hell, we are an encyclopedia which documents information primarily regarding music/releases and objective content -
this content doesn't really belong on the band page. The precedent would be Tobias Sidegard and Necrophobic, where a simple note regarding it was added to his band page after the conviction and his departure from the band. Until then, let's not speculate (including band status) nor bring news and rumors regarding these serious accusations to the encyclopedia - this is best suited for news reports presented exactly as such.

Yes, agreed. I was just questioning band's status/updates regarding Aron's situation, once he is the primary member of the band. I believe such status should be "unknown", since they have not positioned themselves in view of the facts yet. I was not considering adding this content to band's page at all and I never mentioned it. I was just asked to provide evidence of what I said and I did it.

I set the status back to "Active." Aron reached out to us in a report confirming that the band's status remains active.

Our policy on this is as follows, and I put it out here for the sake of clarity: a band's status is determined from the official word of the band. We ONLY set it to "Unknown" if it cannot be reasonably confirmed from an official source what the band's status is one way or another. At present, the band has confirmed to us that it is "Active" and so it will remain "Active." If the band chooses to put the project "On Hold" or to disband and "Split Up" then we will appropriately make that change following official notice of that change in status. The "Unknown" status is simply a placeholder when all efforts to confirm the status of a band have been reasonably exhausted. It is not to be used by us for judging, based on our own assumptions (a big no-no on our site) what we think the band's status should be contrary to what the band has actually stated. We're neutral observers. We're not in the business of speculation or in getting involved in band affairs. You might disagree with us on this, but that's what makes us an encyclopedia and not a celebrity news site.

Wether I agree with the rules or not, won't actually change them. As a collaborator to the site, I am here to follow your rules, not to question or disobey them, neither disrespect any of you. If that was the case, I could just had changed the status myfelf, but that would be disrespectful, which is not typical of me. That's why I brought this question up to you guys.

If Aron proved to you, and I mean exclusivelly to you, that the band is active, OK. But hey, I'm a kinda active guy on Brazilian metal scene and so far nobody have heard anything regarding band's status, specially in São Paulo, where Power from Hell is settled. Different from what you said, I did no speculation, I just mentioned facts that were made public so far and said facts do not include indicators that the band is active. Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that such facts should include, concerts, gigs and recordings, for example and I have not seen any of these regarding Power from Hell for the past months, nor Aron's release.

Yes, I checked the report prior to writting here. That could be anyone, though. Please, take a look on the other reports, there are quite a lot of "metal newbie" flagging reports on this subject (DEALTAVOX, Sodomic, Baned, "visitor").

Diamhea also noticed this and also the link provided by DEALTAVOX on the following report does not work: http://www.metal-archives.com/report/view/id/582659 / http://www.metal-archives.com/report/view/id/584141

Like I said, there's nothing inherently wrong with applying the "Unknown" status, so long as the status is officially unconfirmed one way or another.

In this case we were fortunate enough to speak directly with the band about its status. Admittedly, usually a report is enough evidence for us, so long as the user is genuine and credible, and provides some way to confirm what they're asking us to do. I was able to contact the band through an official website and confirm that the user who provided the status report is in fact the artist. Of course there's always the possibility that the status could be "Disputed" between members, but there is no public, official record of that being the case. The status remains "Active."

Although I recognize my fellow mod's concern, I believe that he was too hasty in his drive to fight 'whitewashing' here. Maintaining a band's status as "Active" and omitting speculative information are not grounds for accusing a user of whitewashing. On the contrary, changing a status of a band based on speculation and including speculative information is discouraged and should not be tolerated. We aim to include information in a neutral manner that is objective, without speculation, and related to the work of the band and its members. Like Zodi said above, if this impacts the work of the artist it would be noteworthy to include it on the artist's page. That doesn't seem to be the case (yet).

NOTE: It's worth mentioning, due to related relevance, that the conviction and/or incarceration of a band member doesn't automatically imply that the status of a band is anything but active. A famous example of this is Burzum, which remained active in spite of Varg's incarceration. The choice to remain active is entirely at the will of the members of the band; outside factors, while they could influence that choice, do not overrule that choice. Even if that choice may not make sense to us as outsiders.

So I have nothing else to say. Thanks a lot

I think it's about time Euthanasiast justified those album line-ups he's been adding like crazy. For someone who's been around as long, let alone adds quite a few bands a month, he should know better. Not every new entry means that he needs to dump the band line-up into the most recent, if not all, album(s) listed in their discography.

If band has been created in 2016 and has XYZ musicians obviously it means that line-up of its first 2016 demo consists from these XYX musicians, doesn't it?
Obviously one-man project has one man line-up of its releases, doesn't it?
I didn't edit line-up of old releases if I'm not sure.
If there is a problem, I shall edit line-up info infrequently.

Dont EVER make lineup assumptions like this. Lineups are routinely different on albums compared to the band page, and hovering on the main page solely to fill new albums with bs lineups is a quick ticket to ban

Euthanasiast, what you are referring to are still guesses, even if they are informed and may turn out to be fine more often than not. A big no-no as there are many possible ways they can lead to incorrect information. For instance, a band may only have one release from 2016 and no past members, having been formed in 2016, but only one guitar player actually performed on the album, the other having joined shortly after the recording session. Or picture a solo artist, normally performing all the instruments themselves, but recruiting a session drummer for a single album, hence not performing all instruments. Et cetera.

Please heed the warning displayed when modifying album lineups:


Also see this news post.

OK, it's clear, no problem.

Is this kind of note, "Accepted based on the album XXXX", correct/valid?

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/All ... 3540412292

Yes. We started adding it and similar phrasings to entries that may constitute counter-intuitive inclusions, i.e. have a largely non-metal discography. (Well, "started", Def Leppard has had a note to that effect for a long time)

By "we", Az obviously means moderators. Other users shouldn't go about adding such notes. Just saying, since your question sounded a little equivocal to me.

Az, on the topic of those kind of notes, shouldn't Peter Crowley's Fantasy Dream have some sort of note to that extent, since he was accepted based on his new album, and the rest of his discography is full of non-metal work?