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natsox14
Mallcore Kid

Joined: Fri Aug 25, 2023 2:23 pm
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2024 4:19 pm 
 

Vothana page is filled with unofficial releases, i did some reports saying that these releases are unofficial/unauthorized however they keep in the page and some mods resist to remove it (OpsiusCato), please read the reports:

https://www.metal-archives.com/report/view/id/857394
https://www.metal-archives.com/report/view/id/853832

Im referring to rehearsals IV, VII and the demos XII, XIII, XV. These releases were added by the same guy in 2007 and so far no one confirmed they existence and absolutely no one owns them, Discogs/Rate your music already removed them or tagged them as "unofficial", you guys have to remove it

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OpsiusCato
Mexican Metal Inquisition

Joined: Thu Oct 05, 2006 4:42 am
Posts: 3010
Location: Mexico
PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2024 6:44 pm 
 

As far as I saw, what you did was spamming reports without proof, which is hardly going to get anything deleted. Also, self-referencing stuff used as proof isn't exactly ideal.

Can you provide actual proof on the matter?
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natsox14
Mallcore Kid

Joined: Fri Aug 25, 2023 2:23 pm
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2024 7:20 pm 
 

Theres not enough proof because LVTN is a retarded who dont ever show up to contribute with anything

But lets think a little bit:

-5 releases added by the same guy, they never received an reissue, no one of owns these releases (look to discogs numbers), the only proof of this existence is a shitty image and not even a tracklist pic we have.
-Vothana's page used to have another demo IX (https://www.discogs.com/release/3934342 ... g-Demo-IX-) which conflicts with ANOTHER DEMO IX (https://www.discogs.com/release/1049762 ... 1-Demo-IX-), the first demo was added by the same guy who uploaded all the fake demos and rehearsals, tell me why the hell would Vothana release two demo 9s?
-Vothana's rehearsal IV have a RIP avaliable at internet, however it's obviously a boot of demo III the tracks are EXACTLY the same, its not like they have some difference, they're the SAME THING
Reh. IV: https://archive.org/details/vothana-a-n ... al-iv-demo
Demo III: https://www.bitchute.com/video/T0Qni8lhFr2f/
+Rehearsal IV titles are all taken from Demo I (Tiếng gọi lính vào chiến tranh), they are exactly the same titles , i wonder why LVTN would put the demo I titles in demo III tracks and release this tape himself, it dont makes any Sense.
- https://ibb.co/jw0tv4X

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Planetary_Misfortune
Metal newbie

Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:18 am
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Location: United Kingdom
PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 7:55 am 
 

Well that's a not totally true for a start, natsox14. On clicking on some of those links, a few of them listed 2 people as having them, not "no one owns these releases" as you claim.
Also, you fail to mention that they all say "private release" which is pretty legitimate in the BM scene.

This seems to be another case of people trying to whitewash pages because they're pissy that they can't complete their collection due to artist-controlled limitations.
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Wilytank
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 10:46 am 
 

Wasn't the catalyst for all this just some nobody from Rateyourmusic claiming these are fake? Of course it wouldn't fly as evidence. https://www.metal-archives.com/report/view/id/835839
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natsox14
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Joined: Fri Aug 25, 2023 2:23 pm
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:53 pm 
 

Its not "only one guy" claiming it is false, its a whole conjecture of many infos that guides us to the conclusion that these releases are fakes, i previously explained many of them

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OpsiusCato
Mexican Metal Inquisition

Joined: Thu Oct 05, 2006 4:42 am
Posts: 3010
Location: Mexico
PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 9:25 pm 
 

natsox14 wrote:
Its not "only one guy" claiming it is false, its a whole conjecture of many infos that guides us to the conclusion that these releases are fakes, i previously explained many of them

To be clear, natsox14, the burden of proof is on you.

We need ACTUAL evidence on the matter. Telling us that X website and Y database deleted them for whatever circumstantial reason is NOT proof on itself. Claiming that RandomIdiot1488 from ObscureCrapForum claims the stuff is non-existent doesn't necessarily make it so.

Until you are able to prove it we're not gonna delete them.

Also, stop filing reports on the matter. If there's anything related to this subject that you need to comment, do it here.
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Uncolored, on being a law-abiding citizen wrote:
I'm going to an illegal AnarchoPunkfest in an abandoned disco near a beach. If I'm not here tomorrow look for me in jail.
PhiloFrog, making accurate statements as usual, wrote:
Opsius is Metal as fuck.

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natsox14
Mallcore Kid

Joined: Fri Aug 25, 2023 2:23 pm
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 9:36 pm 
 

Why dont you kill yourself, subhuman mexican with low iq? Go spend your 30s in a metal website filled with faggots, im sure it will worth lol

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OpsiusCato
Mexican Metal Inquisition

Joined: Thu Oct 05, 2006 4:42 am
Posts: 3010
Location: Mexico
PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 10:57 pm 
 

How charming. Let me guess... Brazilian?
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Uncolored, on being a law-abiding citizen wrote:
I'm going to an illegal AnarchoPunkfest in an abandoned disco near a beach. If I'm not here tomorrow look for me in jail.
PhiloFrog, making accurate statements as usual, wrote:
Opsius is Metal as fuck.

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