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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 9:34 pm 
 

I can understand the southern tag but I dislike using it. The sludge tag can include the "southern feel" they have. I'm reviewing their new one and I think the genre fits so I'll change it now. Thanks for the help, fellows.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 9:36 pm 
 

May seem like nitpicking, but for proper formatting, they should be tagged as Sludge/Black/Death/Post-Metal instead of Post-Metal/Sludge/Black/Death.

Metantoine wrote:
Thanks for the help, fellows.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 9:43 pm 
 

No I wanted Post-Metal to be the first genre on their page and yes this is level 100 nitpicking!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 9:23 pm 
 

Cimarrón is tagged as Heavy Metal, but I find it more like Epic/Heavy Metal, mainly due to the folk and symphonic elements.



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Metal Asylum
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 7:57 am 
 

Derigin wrote:
RE: Hour of Penance. I agree with BastardHead here. While the first couple albums were definitively brutal death metal, the rest are mixed with both brutal and technical elements at play. I'm more than comfortable with the current genre tag.


Hey Derigin, take a look here and let me know of your verdict;

If a compromise is needed then I'd suggest changing their genre to Technical Brutal Death Metal, instead of Brutal/Technical Death Metal, as Uncolored had done back in 2013. This way they will be distinguished from bands like Nile who are balancing equally brutality and technicallity. Plus, while it stayed that way, I don't recall anyone from any of the 2 sides (Technical/Brutal) complaining.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 8:07 am 
 

You're overthinking this.
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Metal Asylum
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 8:21 am 
 

Azmodes wrote:
You're overthinking this.


If it's more precise, why not? There are distinguishable differences between Nile and Origin.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 10:18 am 
 

It'd only be more precise for you because you're the only one that created this style guide. What if Person B comes along with the same level of granularity, but thinks that "Brutal/Technical Death Metal" should describe what you call "Technical Brutal Death Metal" and vice versa? How would you determine who's right when you and Person B are each the only progenitors of your standard for genre labels? You'd see this same week-long debate repeated for any two bands with multiple secondary descriptors.

Origin and Nile sound different, but they both play death metal with the same general attributes. Any differences in their sound can be chalked up to the fact that bands can play the same genre without sounding like carbon copies of one another. EDIT: Actually, Origin's top-rated similar artist on MA is Nile. This further reinforces that most people don't hear the distinction you're trying to claim exists.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 10:32 am 
 

MutantClannfear wrote:
It'd only be more precise for you because you're the only one that created this style guide. What if Person B comes along with the same level of granularity, but thinks that "Brutal/Technical Death Metal" should describe what you call "Technical Brutal Death Metal" and vice versa? How would you determine who's right when you and Person B are each the only progenitors of your standard for genre labels? You'd see this same week-long debate repeated for any two bands with multiple secondary descriptors.


I see what you mean, but I'm only basing this suggestion on the fact that this change was picked by mods themselves back in 2013 and it worked out for a couple of years, so I thought it could work out again. According to said band's report history, there were no genre-related reports filed during that period.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 11:33 am 
 

Demised from Spain (http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Demised/64921) started as a Death Metal band (listed as "Technical death metal in the archives, althogh I personally don't find it to be that technical), with some elements closer to melodeath and others more similar to what Death (the band) playen on their later albums. When they reunited in 2015 they totally changed their style to some kind of Gothic/Doom Metal, with a total absence of growls or screams and more similar to Paradise Lost, Revolution DNA-era Septic Flesh etc Check the following links:

DEATH METAL (1997-2008): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCotFPeNzso
GOTHIC/DOOM METAL (2015-): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjEUGCPPeqg

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 3:33 am 
 

Metal Asylum wrote:
Azmodes wrote:
You're overthinking this.


If it's more precise, why not? There are distinguishable differences between Nile and Origin.

Precise according to your own personal little system. The problem with this kind of ridiculous nitpicking is that there is no way these details smoothly translate to general clarification. People are not going to look at the page and think "oh, I see this band lacks a slash between "technical" and "brutal", I completely understand how this sets them apart from ye regular ole technical/brutal bands". Our approach to genre tags is simply not this specific and systematic, we try to enforce a middle ground that describes a band's sound well enough without worrying endlessly about which tag to put first and where to put slashes. Whether it's "brutal/technical" or "brutal technical" is pretty much immaterial since we do not consider the difference to be meaningful. The genre field should give a general idea of a band's sound, not reveal every little sonic nuance and idiosyncracy according to a system that would be opaque to most people anyway.

These sorts of hair-splitting debates are exactly what this thread is not about. What this thread is about is more along the lines of a death metal band tagged as thrash. Doom/death tagged as gothic metal. At best a band missing a "melodic" descriptor. A considerable musical period of an eclectic band being omitted. More or less egregious stuff like that. Any more subtle than that and you should think twice before bringing it up.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 3:35 am 
 

Youdash from Poland. Now band is genred as Groove,thrash but actually they've changed style more than less. Now it goes more to Prog,tech death metal with overall 90' influents. So check it

Older stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7SRqpdOQaY

Then
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikNvDFt1-TY

And now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOdbOEnTNns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ql4v3pv4EW4

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Metal Asylum
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 6:25 am 
 

Azmodes wrote:
Precise according to your own personal little system. The problem with this kind of ridiculous nitpicking is that there is no way these details smoothly translate to general clarification. People are not going to look at the page and think "oh, I see this band lacks a slash between "technical" and "brutal", I completely understand how this sets them apart from ye regular ole technical/brutal bands". Our approach to genre tags is simply not this specific and systematic, we try to enforce a middle ground that describes a band's sound well enough without worrying endlessly about which tag to put first and where to put slashes. Whether it's "brutal/technical" or "brutal technical" is pretty much immaterial since we do not consider the difference to be meaningful. The genre field should give a general idea of a band's sound, not reveal every little sonic nuance and idiosyncracy according to a system that would be opaque to most people anyway.


Yep, I think you're right. Got really carried away here.

I was checking yesterday the band's history page and I came across this newly submitted report. In my initial post, I argued (but didn't elaborate) that Hour of Penance can be just tagged as a Death Metal band- this guy/gal points it out in detail here (that is if people don't mind checking it out- it may be of value for said band's genre); http://www.metal-archives.com/report/view/id/577626.

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Metal Asylum wrote:
Azmodes wrote:
Precise according to your own personal little system. The problem with this kind of ridiculous nitpicking is that there is no way these details smoothly translate to general clarification. People are not going to look at the page and think "oh, I see this band lacks a slash between "technical" and "brutal", I completely understand how this sets them apart from ye regular ole technical/brutal bands". Our approach to genre tags is simply not this specific and systematic, we try to enforce a middle ground that describes a band's sound well enough without worrying endlessly about which tag to put first and where to put slashes. Whether it's "brutal/technical" or "brutal technical" is pretty much immaterial since we do not consider the difference to be meaningful. The genre field should give a general idea of a band's sound, not reveal every little sonic nuance and idiosyncracy according to a system that would be opaque to most people anyway.


Yep, I think you're right. Got really carried away here.

I was checking yesterday the band's history page and I came across this newly submitted report. In my initial post, I argued (but didn't elaborate) that Hour of Penance can be just tagged as a Death Metal band- this guy/gal points it out in detail here (that is if people don't mind checking it out- it may be of value for said band's genre); http://www.metal-archives.com/report/view/id/577626.


Really, Hour of Penance is fine, relax. There is an obvious enough difference between them and Cannibal Corpse's early stuff that a distinction makes total sense. This is veering dangerously close to the oldnoob territory of "I was around in the 80s and I think 'Brutal Death Metal' isn't real because all death metal is brutal". Let it go.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 1:58 am 
 

MetalMuxxer wrote:


I don't want to bother anyone, but I didn't got any answer.

By the way, sorry for lagging the thread, I've removed the 14 videos.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 9:35 am 
 

XCIII
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/XCIII/3540323396

Evolved into Avantgarde (Rock) on their latest album "Enlighten". So please change the genre ;)

See: https://anesthetize.bandcamp.com/album/enlighten
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 1:32 pm 
 

OMEN being listed as simply "Power Metal" seems innacurate.
Epic Heavy/Power Metal is my choice.
(Reported previously on 2012 and 2015)

Battle Cry: 1984 (Epic Heavy Metal) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sQFIcQL99w
Warning of Danger: 1985 (Epic Heavy Metal) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LpU0Sfqnmg
The Curse: 1986 (Epic Heavy Metal/Power Metal) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0B0WU-Pfvg
^imo, the album that merged both styles perfectly.

Considering that vocals are a crucial element in Power Metal (most of the time), they were always more high ranged/virtuoso even in the US style: Savatage, Jag Panzer, Liege Lord, Agent Steel, Vicious Rumours, etc. In Omen they lie more on the raspy/classic heavy metal side. Riffing is also traditional mid-tempo nwobhm-like in most of their early songs (Think the start of "The Curse", a total Iron Maiden worship). They are constantly being compared to Manilla Road and I totally agree. They helped to craft the US power metal scene, but were a hybrid from the very start.

I'll do a comparison here, and the last word is yours:
Brocas Helm "Into Battle" 1984: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptABjJ-6jEc (Epic Heavy Metal)
Omen "Death Rider" 1984: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5afBoqqVlZw
Manilla Road "Metalström" 1986: https://youtu.be/_LDWUWYBqHI?t=34s (Epic Heavy/Power Metal)
Ostrogoth "Queen of Desire" 1984: https://youtu.be/pipMEAUsNYw?t=59s (Heavy/Power Metal from Belgium)

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:43 am 
 

From queue (condensing reports that will likely rot):

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I would, again, recommend changing the genre of this band. Their first two albums contained quite heavy stoner/doom metal, but as you can hear in the link, these days it's more psychedelic/progressive rock with very little traces of stoner or metal left.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGWngYcC9O0

Band in question: http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Wight/3540281009
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I'll check it out, D. I just need the time to listen to it.
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Okay cool, thanks
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:14 pm 
 

All of Noč's releases after Demo III consist primarily of cloud rap music with some occasional black metal tracks. So I suggest changing the genre to Depressive Black Metal (early), Cloud Rap (later). Something along those lines. Here's the bandcamp page.

RateYourMusic describes cloud rap as "a form of hip hop whose distinguishing features include ethereal, dreamlike beats (which often use wordless vocal samples, wherein singers harmonize or hold long notes, to produce a majestic effect)".

Here are some other examples of cloud rap:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMgkt9jdjTU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7sfsRHMWHo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB-msWpV31M
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jaraslav
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:28 am 
 

Anything about Youdash I've posted before?
Band definitelly changed style from thrash and groove

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I took care of some more outstanding requests. Interpret any unchanged genres as me disagreeing.

Midnight Rider wrote:
DESTRIPADOR (http://metal-archives.com/bands/Destripador/3540395267)

Is listed as "Heavy Metal", but it's another case of a hard-to-define genre.
imo "Heavy/Thrash" could work, but there are plenty of other styles too.
(Death Metal and Groove Metal riffs, mostly)

Their 2015 album can be heard here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO_jU86L2lI

I'll share some "key" moments:
https://youtu.be/AO_jU86L2lI?t=5m10s
https://youtu.be/AO_jU86L2lI?t=20m5s
https://youtu.be/AO_jU86L2lI?t=29m59s

(Thanks for taking care of my past posts)

Let's not complicate matters. Current genre seems fine.

Karonthe_Kahler wrote:
Demised from Spain (http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Demised/64921) started as a Death Metal band (listed as "Technical death metal in the archives, althogh I personally don't find it to be that technical), with some elements closer to melodeath and others more similar to what Death (the band) playen on their later albums. When they reunited in 2015 they totally changed their style to some kind of Gothic/Doom Metal, with a total absence of growls or screams and more similar to Paradise Lost, Revolution DNA-era Septic Flesh etc Check the following links:

DEATH METAL (1997-2008): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCotFPeNzso
GOTHIC/DOOM METAL (2015-): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjEUGCPPeqg

We only reflect released material in the genre field.
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Azmodes wrote:
Let's not complicate matters. Current genre seems fine.

Sometimes it's just best to keep things simple. It's allright ;)

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I have a genre suggestion with Ulcerate, they we're Brutal Death Metal on the demo 2004 and on the first full length also, but, on the second full length they become a Technical/Post or Technical/Avant-Garde Death Metal likes Gorguts, Deathspell Omega (Just Avant-Garde elements obviously) and Neurosis.

Brutal Death Metal Demo 2004 with Suffocation, Deeds of Flesh and Immolation influences: https://deepsendrecords.bandcamp.com/al ... f-genocide

Brutal Death Metal first album 2007 with the sames influences:
https://youtu.be/OFSV0sNH0KQ

Technical/Post or Technical/Avant-Garde Death Metal second album 2009 with clear influences from Gorguts, Deathspell Omega and Neurosis too: https://candlelightrecordsuk.bandcamp.c ... ng-is-fire

Third album: https://ulcerate.bandcamp.com/album/the ... ers-of-all

Fourth album: https://ulcerate.bandcamp.com/album/vermis

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The power/thrash tag on Dofka has been bothering me for a while...

There is literally no thrash in the first album. I'm struggling a bit on youtube links but following are more or less representative. About the closest track is one call speed mental which is a speedy two minute instrumental but annoyingly I can't find it on Youtube. The rest of the tracks are pretty much like these:
Spoiler: show





3 other tracks are shreddy guitar instrumentals in a similar style.

There are also two "covers" of Screamer tracks (the Virginia based one, who basically seem to be Dofka by a different name) and they are heavy/power on here which seems correct for at least early Dofka too.

I've just sat through the second album from 20 years later and it is quite a different beast but still not really thrashy. There are some rare harsh-ish vocals and one or two moments that could be called breakdowns but overall picture is again very much not thrash at all. Whole album is available to listen to here:
https://dofka.bandcamp.com/album/humanity-bleak

Edit: the newer single is even more clearly straight heavy/power. It even includes a straight cover of Johnny's Back.
https://dofka.bandcamp.com/album/pain-and-sorrow/

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omnishadow wrote:
http://devilry.bandcamp.com/releases

I listened to the whole album and couldn't find many similarities with the current genre: melodeath/black/hm. The own band says that they play experimental heavy metal, while some ppl said to them that they play "black metal, to stoner/doom and even post-rock." I'd say that they play melodic(?) sludge/post-metal.

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Diamhea directed me over here, so...

From what I heard on "Trapped in Anguish" and "Golden Signs," Voice's music verges much closer towards Progressive/Heavy Metal, although the "Melodic Power Metal" tag isn't entirely without merit. The music is full of rich melodies and harmonies, but most of the songs are consistently midtempo with a few fast exceptions.

"Trapped in Anguish"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2CLtahnfk4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-GZDn1Nfrk (this one's faster)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81jmN9EZ4Zo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXUNIeZuv_E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayr26aQpB6M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv4Msuknzcw (more uptempo here)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JfF4aYuXXk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ILtChlLYUU (more uptempo here, too)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtD_9QhZOjU

"Golden Signs"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYCk1lgcyp8 (more uptempo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XN9CuYaJHsc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_I2vbfxCsg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7ZkbU0881M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmzqE40m0uk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYdxKAmAwYs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tX-hXOAH70 (just a Metal ballad)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7XsAPPRGyI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8X0KlqbpM4
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Dark Quarterer.

I suggest to change to this:

Epic Heavy Metal (early)

Progressive Epic Metal [or Epic Progressive Metal] (later)

Actually every album is different from each other, this is still a synthetic simplification for such a band.

Many songs from every album (or entire album in some cases), both studio and live, here:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_ ... +Quarterer

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Still for Dark Quarterer, better yet for "early":

Epic Heavy Metal with progressive elements.

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Without even being familiar with Dark Quarterer, I can say with absolute confidence that splitting it with early and later tags while using all of the same genre descriptors in a different order is so unbelievably insignificant that there's no reason to bother at all. Basically just pick whichever one sums up their whole career the best, because "Epic Heavy Metal with Progressive elements (early)/Epic Progressive Metal (later)" would be terribly cumbersome to essentially say the same thing.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 12:14 pm 
 

I believe there was a notable genre change ever since the band adopted the name Wrvth and released their latest album, I feel like the tag "Technical Death Metal/Deathcore" just doesn't fit with their actual sound.

Genre should be changed to "Technical Death Metal/Deathcore (Early), Post-Black Metal/Metalcore (Later)"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jO_ruGIalE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCnr6R-qJwE
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I think the band should have a separate entry altogether.
(The) Wrath of Vesuvius >> Wrvth
Don't see the point of cramming them into one page.
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Need4Power
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 4:04 pm 
 

I noticed that some thrash metal bands are being labelled as "power/thrash". Flotsam and Jetsam for example. Why are they power/thrash and not just thrash? Is it the vocals? I thought that thrash can employ all kinds of different vocal styles and still be thrash. If Flotsam and Jetsam is "power/thrash", would it not therefore make sense to call Morbid Saint "death/thrash"?

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OpsiusCato
Mexican Metal Inquisition

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 4:09 pm 
 

That's because those bands are not just plain Thrash Metal. They also have a good amount of Power Metal to it; enough to warrant its addition to the genre tag. It's not really because of the vocals. It's because of the riffs. If you're into the US kind of Power Metal, it's not so hard to notice the style mixed with the Thrash Metal.
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PDS
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 8:08 pm 
 

IntoNevermore wrote:
I believe there was a notable genre change ever since the band adopted the name Wrvth and released their latest album, I feel like the tag "Technical Death Metal/Deathcore" just doesn't fit with their actual sound.

Genre should be changed to "Technical Death Metal/Deathcore (Early), Post-Black Metal/Metalcore (Later)"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jO_ruGIalE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCnr6R-qJwE


Antioch wrote:
I think the band should have a separate entry altogether.
(The) Wrath of Vesuvius >> Wrvth
Don't see the point of cramming them into one page.


Geh, Post- and -core. Just what we need. I'll track down and check out the entire album, but just from the two songs. I'll also check out the second album to make sure and see that the change is significant enough. Since by name along it isn't significant. imo.

I'll post later, I'm swamped with work at the moment so hopefully when I do post about it, it will be in the same day PST.

EDIT: Okay, I have no idea what IntoNevermore is smoking. Post-Black Metal? This is basically just Fallujah with more soft bits. WRVTH is just riding along on the new Fallujah-style of Tech Death/core that is popular now.
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Folkemon_
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 8:11 am 
 

Isn't it about time Rotting Christ's genre was fixed? Extreme metal is a bit of a silly tag, maybe something like symphonic/folk black metal?
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Morrigan
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:44 pm 
 

Folkemon_ wrote:
Isn't it about time Rotting Christ's genre was fixed? Extreme metal is a bit of a silly tag,

"Extreme metal" is rarely used, but it's used when a band's genre doesn't really fit any of the classic genre tags (black, death, etc) while still having some influence from them. Later RC qualifies, I believe.

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maybe something like symphonic/folk black metal?

Ehhhh no
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IntoNevermore
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 7:22 pm 
 

PDS wrote:
Geh, Post- and -core. Just what we need. I'll track down and check out the entire album, but just from the two songs. I'll also check out the second album to make sure and see that the change is significant enough. Since by name along it isn't significant. imo.

I'll post later, I'm swamped with work at the moment so hopefully when I do post about it, it will be in the same day PST.

EDIT: Okay, I have no idea what IntoNevermore is smoking. Post-Black Metal? This is basically just Fallujah with more soft bits. WRVTH is just riding along on the new Fallujah-style of Tech Death/core that is popular now.


Fair enough, I should check my ears then haha. Thanks.
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samyool99
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 4:28 pm 
 

Foul Body Autopsy is called death metal on this site, however the facebook says blackened deathgrind (which I agree with). What do you think? Also, they [the band] used to call it progressive blackened deathgrind, I think they changed their sound a bit as well as thought that genre was a bit long.

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