I've changed it to Black/Speed Metal, Synthwave. I don't like the Early/Later here - can't imagine that he's going to make his solo stuff full time synthwave. If he does, we can adjust again.

Cool, first band with "Synthwave" in the genre field on MA.

Bumping this since it's gotten no answer.

Reek of Unzen needs an answer too.

ODIN: http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Odin/1801
Is listed as "Heavy Metal" but I think it can be expanded into:
"Heavy/Glam Metal/Hard Rock", or a similar tag-

Please, listen to this bits:
Heavy Metal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydzh2iu8kI4 (1985)
Pop-Metal: https://youtu.be/4X6ilGO-3kI?t=1m1s (1990)
Glam/Hard Rock: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JCgWVIONE4 (1990)

A biography at Sleaze Roxx says: "(...)with their brand of traditional metal meets sleaze.(...)"
https://web.archive.org/web/20150509205 ... odin.shtml

FULL 1985 EP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZK-P0kUrug
BEST OF: (1:28 hours of material): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJefGvh2Gps

Need a moderator to check this about High on Fire's genre;

They are into Sludge a lot, so I'd reccomend changing the genre to Stoner/Sludge Metal, or, if you want to keep the Doom element, Stoner/Sludge/Doom Metal.

Neither Stoner, nor Sludge can be ignored. They have way more Stoner and Sludge elements than Doom ones. I mean, check the atached samples. You call their more recent Full-lengths Doom Metal? Their Vocals, the riffs' speed, the fast paced drumming, the general fast tempo... everything inclines to Stoner/Sludge or, at least Stoner/Sludge/Doom Metal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yeb9a4nuC6Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2jfiq8Vgnw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TVbBDidXxo

Also, I'm submitting a suggestion regarding Marauder's genre;

Marauder is one of the first well-known greek bands, formed back in the dawn of 90's. Ever since its inception, the band has included in its entire discography plenty of Hard Rock elements alongside their Epic Heavy/Power Metal ones.

Below are attached a few samples that support my claim: Soft, clean, melody-driven vocals, melody-driven guitar riffs, mid-tempo melodic drumming and melody-driven solos, plus big part of their lyrical themes has to do with personal struggles and emotions. Generally, melody plays a key role in their music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOOcv8lx8u0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o66wVfyZez4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CC35ykbxuSY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDOiHtZitCQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNDGRFtexHM

Plus, the entirety of 2 Full-lengths [''Face the Mirror'' (2008), ''Life?'' (2004)] of theirs are full on Hard Rock Elements.

^I don't know, what I'm hearing sounds simply like the band has a few softer tracks/ballads here and there. Not unusual for the genre, I wouldn't add "hard rock" just because of that.

I've dealt with the other requests, if I missed anything, please bump.

All the others have been dealt with.

As far as Marauder's genre goes, these 5 samples are just examples of their Hard Rock elements. Bear in mind that, in the 2 aforementioned Full-Lengths, the Hard Rock element plays a bigger role than pure Metal in their music and it's not that they have just softer tracks, that's their style, they are way softer than a traditional Epic Heavy/Power Metal group. And it's not really Epic Heavy Metal (as is Battleroar, for example), I mean only ''1821'' was and that due to the album's lyrical concept. It's mainly a Heavy/Power Metal, Hard Rock band. If you view the band in its entirety, you'll hear Hard Rock everywhere, somewehre more, somewhere less- but it's present everywhere, even on the first ''more Metalish'' Full-length, ''Sense of Metal''. A Hard Rock band isn't defined only by the extensive use of Keyoboards, a lot of other things are included too; Really melody-driven, totally soft vocals on quite a lot of parts, not edgy at all, but melody driven guitar riffs, etc. Also, that's how they too describe their music, as most webzines do- not that it matters that much, but I thought I'd add it too.

Anyways, if we want to be precise about said band I'd request the addition of Hard Rock in their genre field (maybe the change from Epic Heavy to Heavy too)- even as ''Epic Heavy/Power Metal with Hard Rock influences'', if you don't feel like adding Hard Rock as equal to Epic Heavy/Power.

Dude, you are always way, way off with your genre suggestions. I reviewed their latest album over the summer. Straight up heavy/power. I doubt there is enough to modify the genre field. A few stylistic detours doesn't cut it.

You reviewed their last album, but it doesn't seem like you actually heard ''Face the Mirror'', ''Life?'' or ''Elegy of Blood''. They don't include ''a few stylistic detours'', these albums in their entirety are Heavy/Power Metal, Hard Rock, lol.

''Bullethead'' is just not as soft as the previous five, although it still has a few Hard Rock parts- ''a few stylistic detours'' as you mentioned. But all the other 5, they include for the most part of them Hard Rock. The way I see it, 5>1 and keeping a genre based on one album, ignoring five, isn't really precise. According to your POV, Rainbow should be Heavy Metal, but, as we all know, that's not the case. Hard Rock isn't just soft, gentle keyboard use.

In fact, if you want a proper Epic Heavy/Power Metal band, better look at Battleroar (another greek band). Marauder are A LOT softer than Battleroar.

I'd understand (not entirely, but I'd try to) not wanting to add Hard Rock next to Heavy/Power, but ignoring it completely just doesn't reflect the musical orientation of a 25+ year old band. Henche why I suggested at least adding the ''with Hard Rock influences'' reference.

P.S.: Actually, I've corrected the genres of bands with no musical connection between them; Loudblast, Sepultura, Exoristoi, Innerwish, High on Fire, to name a few, so I don't really get your point about me being off.

Sorry, you really don't know what you are talking about. Plus, we try to err on the side of conservatism with the genre listings, instead of needlessly complicating it. You are welcome to continue flagging reports, but try and adhere to the way we judge styles instead of making up your own convoluted explanations.

Apparently, Epic Heavy/Power Metal, Hard Rock or Epic Heavy/Power Metal with Hard Rock influences is more convoluted than Black/Speed Metal, Synthwave .

Alright, I'll keep it simple;

1. Listen to this; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o66wVfyZez4 (#insert anything from ''Life?'', ''Face the Mirror'', ''Elegy of Blood'', even ''1821''#).

2. Compare it to this; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkhkjonZhoE (#insert anything from their entire discography).

For some reason you aren't being objective here, so I rest my case and I'll let Azmodes decide.

I can't see how adding ''with Hard Rock elements'' (since you apparently are hellbent on not adding ''Hard Rock'') would be an issue- you too agreed that there are such influences on their latest album (and if you had heard their past Full-lengths you'd agree about said influences being... well, not just influences). There's a plethora of bands that have quite a few tags to their respective genre field. That's not convolutive at all, just precise and to the point.

Cheers.

Hey does anyone have any info about the nwobhm band called Phoenix Rising http: http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Phoenix_Rising/38056
According to MA they only recorded a live album and 2 eps. But in the site http://nwobhm.com/ I found out they recorded more, including a Lp (not sure if its a Lp) called The Ship: http://nwobhm.com/phoenix-rising/.

However I am not able to find any songs on yt, neither trace on any download sites and other sites which offer discography. Im not sure if it exists. There is that one source on that album, should we or I update our discography for Phoenix Rising or no? Does anybody own The Ship to prove it exists?

Apparently, their self-titled EP can be found at Heavy Metal Rarities.

EDIT: The links seem, unfortunately, to be dead and for some reason I could not report them. Maybe someone else could report the dead links to have the EP re-uploaded?

Im not talking about ep, Im talkin about The Ship Lp if it even exists.

Sorry, misread your post.

Bumping this:

@Metal Asylum: I agree with Az and Diamhea here. It doesn't warrant the addition of "hard rock."

@Midnight Rider: Changed it to Heavy/Thrash/Groove Metal.

Fair enough.

DESTRIPADOR (http://metal-archives.com/bands/Destripador/3540395267)

Is listed as "Heavy Metal", but it's another case of a hard-to-define genre.
imo "Heavy/Thrash" could work, but there are plenty of other styles too.
(Death Metal and Groove Metal riffs, mostly)

Their 2015 album can be heard here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO_jU86L2lI

I'll share some "key" moments:
https://youtu.be/AO_jU86L2lI?t=5m10s
https://youtu.be/AO_jU86L2lI?t=20m5s
https://youtu.be/AO_jU86L2lI?t=29m59s

(Thanks for taking care of my past posts)

Cross-posting from report queue, since I'm not well versed in this style: http://www.metal-archives.com/report/vi ... 6/show/all

Hour of Penance: Brutal death metal?

Well it's definitely not tech death. Sounds brutal enough.

*checks band modification history*

Don't think I've seen so many mods disagree with such a minor change to a genre...

It was accepted in 2003 as "Brutal Death Metal." It stayed that way until April 2011 when Morrigan changed it to "Technical Death Metal" based on a report that the album, Paradogma, was 'technical death metal.' A week later another report was submitted stating the genre should be changed back, but MacMoney changed it to "Death Metal" as he couldn't decide one way or another. Two days later another report was submitted asking for 'brutal' to be added, so Doomsday returned it to "Brutal Death Metal." A month later another report was made, this time including an argument between users on whether it was 'technical' or 'brutal' death metal; Uncolored decided on a compromise and called it "Technical Brutal Death Metal." Exactly two years later, while responding to another report, Porman changed the genre to "Technical/Brutal Death Metal." It has stayed that way until today, when another report was submitted asking for a genre change.

From what I've gathered through reviews and the reports, the general sentiment is that the band started off playing 'brutal death metal,' but then switched at some point to 'technical death metal,' and may have gravitated to a mix of both or back to 'brutal death metal' in the last couple albums. I haven't checked the music yet to confirm whether this is true. But I will now and return with a full assessment. Hopefully we can put an end to the genre ping-pong that has been going on.

Hello, again.

Well, at some point in their careers they just had some complexity here and there, but that was it, a few traces of technicality that surely isn't enough to label them as a Technical Death Metal band.

On their last 2 Full-lengths they went with a modern version of the Brutal Death Metal they started with.

Hi, Diamhea.

So I can see that Petrichor from the United Kingdom describe themselves as being blackened funeral doom, but do you guys really think that is the case? I mean, this just sounds like plain My Dying Bride worship. It's not slow or bleak enough to be funeral doom, and the harsher aspects sound more like doom/death than blackened doom to me.

Melodic Doom/Death Metal would be an apt description.

Bandcamp

Hour of Penance is simply a particularly brutal styling of the Unique Leader/Willowtip brand of tech death that exploded in the late 2000s (think Deeds of Flesh or Fleshgod Apocalypse's first album). The compromise is really the best thing to call them. They have way too much of a focus on speed, precision, and even occasionally melody to really fit the typical BDM niche, but they're also way too simplistic in terms of spider fingered riff/shredding that exemplifies most tech death bands and tend to instead focus on a more Nile/Neuraxis styled approach of "death metal, but really really really really fucking fast". It's sorta difficult since both "brutal" and "technical" are correct, but at the same time not exactly perfect, the terms are basically interchangeable with this style and I also can't think of another time people have been so picky about it. It's not Disgorge but it's not Obscura either. So basically any combination of the terms is fine, so I support leaving it as it is and hoping nobody bitches about it again because it's really a non-issue with a band like this.

This MIGHT apply to ''Paradogma'' (2010) but every single other release of said band is simply Brutal Death Metal. The term technical has to do with complexity in rhythms, riffs, song structures, etc, which the band has none in their overal discography.

In another report Diamhea told me <<we need to draw a line as far as genres go. The question is not if said genre is included in a band's musical orientation but if it is enough to label them that way>>. So I'm asking; how is Technical Death Metal part of Hour of Penance? There's no technicality or complexity whatsoever, ONLY a few traces of it in 1 Full-length. It's their version of Brutal Death Metal- not all Brutal Death Metal bands (have to) sound the same.

Even if you perceieve what you hear as technicality, is there enough of it to label them that way?

You're spot on. Changed.

Latifundio is labeled as a heavy metal band, but I think their music is some kind of progressive heavy/thrash. Those "long" songs, with kinda rare structures, and all that progressive-like stuff.


https://latifundio.bandcamp.com/

I'm going to sum up all the other band's genres change suggestions on here:

Vulkro, from Brazil, should be changed to "death/doom metal":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4tFfesd3l8

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Regarding the band Veil of Maya:
Technical Deathcore (early), "Djent (now)" or "Technical Metalcore (now)". Just because Matriarch's (the band's last album) music is absolutely not (tech) deathcore. Listen to it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGNasLEU2Ho

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http://www.metal-archives.com/band/view/id/59623
This should be changed to "Avant-garde Death/Progressive Metal". Just check their music on Myspace:
http://myspace.com/nebulae31/music/songs

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The band below should have its genre replaced to Thrash Metal:
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Dust/21545
http://myspace.com/dustromania/music/songs

I would like some help to fix Inter Arma's genre. It's currently a big mess and should be fixed but I'm not totally sure what to use.

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Inter_Arma/128583

"Blackened Sludge/Southern/Post-Metal"

There's probably a way to streamline this? They also have a lot of death metal in their sound... Suggestions?

Post-Black/Death Metal or...
Post-Black/Death/Sludge Metal

I just think that the BM/DM overpowers the sludge.
EDIT: not really, depends on the song, so I think the second one fits better.

Blackened Sludge/Post-Metal with Death Metal influences or Blackened Post-Sludge/Death Metal?

In my opinion, getting rid of Sludge wouldn't be a good idea.
I second Post-Black/Death/Sludge Metal though.

RE: Hour of Penance. I agree with BastardHead here. While the first couple albums were definitively brutal death metal, the rest are mixed with both brutal and technical elements at play. I'm more than comfortable with the current genre tag.

@Inter Arma: No way the sludge tag is getting removed. Using "post-black" would be confusing since they're not actually post-black metal and I don't want people to think they sound like Deafheaven or Alcest hahaha.

"Post-Metal/Sludge/Black/Death" seems fine to me.

Reasonable enough.
Honestly, I never understood why they were tagged with "Southern Metal" in the first place.

totally agree now