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dantes
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Joined: Mon Sep 24, 2012 4:09 pm
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 9:57 am 
 

I was wondering, as far as I know, it is the policy of MA not to include an artist´s real name if it hadn't been made public by the artist himself and/or this might create problem fo him. Is that right?

In that case, would'nt it be logical to also remove the actual mention of one´s name in the related reports as well as in the relevant modification history field?

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Zodijackyl
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Joined: Wed Apr 30, 2008 5:39 pm
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Location: United States
PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 1:34 pm 
 

Report histories aren't indexed by search engines.

There's a section about this in the FAQ:
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If one of the following conditions is true, we will gladly help make your artist page more anonymous (remove real names, photos, birth date, etc.), but we will not delete it:

You live in a country where heavy metal is against the law and/or being linked to it can severely destroy your life (e.g. Iran, Saudi Arabia).
Your real name is unknown to the public, as you are a) credited with an alias on the album(s) you appear on, and b) your band(s)'s official website, Myspace, Facebook, etc. does not list your name or information.
You have a very uncommon name, and a Google search by an employer would find an automatic link to your band(s) and severely impact your career (though we would suggest you find another employer instead of such assholes...). This also only applies if #2 is true.
In other words, if the information is publically available, someone on this site will no doubt end up archiving it. "Publically available" includes (but is probably not limited to): album credits, official band sites/Myspace/Facebook pages, and interviews with the artist.
Here are a few cases that really happened, and how we dealt with it:
Various, unrelated musicians are credited on albums using an alias. Their respective bands's website lists the alias as well. Some acquaintances (on Facebook or in real life) of these musicians added their real names to the artist pages. Result: real names removed.
A musician asks us to remove his last name from the page. Unofficial websites list the full name, but his official Myspace only shows his first name. Result: last name removed.
A black metal musician from Iran contacted us because his photograph appeared on an artist page. Though it's unlikely to happen, he is still worried about real-life people (relatives, law enforcement, etc.) finding him on the site. Result: photograph removed.
A musician is credited on album #1 using an alias, and on album #2 using his full name. Interviews confirm this is the same person, who appears in several bands. He has been happily promoting all his bands for years. Recently having a change of heart, he lies and claims he is not in those other bands. He asks us to remove his real name entirely from the page and remove links to his previous bands. Result: real name stays for album #2 credits, no other change to the page..
A musician asked us to "remove her profile page" from the site. On her band's official site, her real name appears, along with a photograph and a short biography. Result: no change on the page.
A musician, listed as ex-member of a few death metal bands, asked us to remove his page entirely because he "no longer plays metal" and wants to distance himself from his past. He is well-documented as having been a member of those bands, including on the official site of one of those bands, where there is a detailed page listing everything from his full birth name to his hobbies and favourite drinks. Result: no change on the page.
Please note that we do this not to be assholes, but simply to make sure the database of band line-ups is as accurate and complete as possible. If your request is reasonable regarding a violation of privacy, we have, and will continue, to gladly cooperate, but attempts at whitewashing band history remind us of a certain someone... do you really want to be that guy? :)

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dantes
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Joined: Mon Sep 24, 2012 4:09 pm
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Location: Norway
PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:51 pm 
 

Ok, I did not knew that. But still, it can be quite easy for someone going inside MA to find out an artist´s real name as long as it had been entered at least once. Wouldn't you (someone out there) think that it might be better in some cases to actually delete the names whatsoever from editing and reporting fields ? I don't mean deleting the reports themselves but editing them so that the incriminated name won't be displayed anymore?

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dantes
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 10:06 am 
 

No-one to answer this question?

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Azmodes
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Joined: Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:44 am
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Location: Gradec, Austria
PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:29 am 
 

We delete reports that contain the artist's real name or other unwanted information, if necessary/justified. But redacting the modification history is something only the owners are able to do (I'm not, at least) and it would presumably be some sort of tedious deep-level programming surgery. Not to mention that it would be questionable to start messing with our logs that way.
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dantes
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 1:26 pm 
 

Wel, would it be possible to ask Hellblazer and Morrigan about it then?

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 2:04 pm 
 

Feel free to ask them.
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HellBlazer
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Location: Canada
PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 4:28 pm 
 

Morri has talked about implementing a solution for this problem so... yeah, we'll probably have that at some point. I'm not sure when though.

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