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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:45 am 
 

I have re-listened to Warcollapse and decided to remove them, the doomy parts on their e.p. do not outweigh the crust punk ones.
Hellkrusher too - must crustcore than metal.
Also Toxic Narcotic - hc punk, not much metal in it.
S.D.S. (Japan) - hardcore
Misery (Us) - crustcore
Hellshock - crustcore
Lacroix Despheres - some kind of heavily symphonic rock
Inepsy (Can) - hardcore punk
Antisect - they were never predominantly metal, always crust based.
Alkana - seventies hard rock
Zoe - crustcore
Acrostix - hc/crust


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EntilZha
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 11:54 am 
 

Wtf, Warcollapse have already been removed like three months ago. Who keeps accepting them?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 1:32 pm 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540300782
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuse ... =453974692
Quote:
The Split That Never Was...
We felt that we owed all of our five fans that wanted to hear and access the recorded material that had never gotten pressed before we decided to take our infinite hiatus had a right finally obtain it, so here it is for you downloadable pleasure.

No release?
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todesengel_hell
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 3:44 pm 
 

oneyoudontknow wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540300782
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuse ... =453974692
Quote:
The Split That Never Was...
We felt that we owed all of our five fans that wanted to hear and access the recorded material that had never gotten pressed before we decided to take our infinite hiatus had a right finally obtain it, so here it is for you downloadable pleasure.

No release?


Look at Tentacles myspace
http://www.myspace.com/nytentacles

The split is listed under their releases as being a Burned Cd-r that you would have to see the band to get a copy of

The recorded material they are talking about may be for a completely different split.

I wouldn't think Tentacles would list the split from 2007 as an available album if it never was released as the rest of their page is definitely more current.

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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:45 pm 
 

todesengel_hell wrote:
oneyoudontknow wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540300782
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuse ... =453974692
Quote:
The Split That Never Was...
We felt that we owed all of our five fans that wanted to hear and access the recorded material that had never gotten pressed before we decided to take our infinite hiatus had a right finally obtain it, so here it is for you downloadable pleasure.

No release?


Look at Tentacles myspace
http://www.myspace.com/nytentacles

The split is listed under their releases as being a Burned Cd-r that you would have to see the band to get a copy of

The recorded material they are talking about may be for a completely different split.

I wouldn't think Tentacles would list the split from 2007 as an available album if it never was released as the rest of their page is definitely more current.

Why don't you ask the other band? Maybe they released it as a CDr without letting the other band know, or the other simply did not care.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 5:34 pm 
 

I have deleted X-Mas Project - cover project playing metalized Christmas songs.

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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 5:37 pm 
 

How would you see this band?
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=5109

see the releases. Except for one track, all seem to be 'metalized' covers.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 5:57 pm 
 

If EntilZha is correct, they are here because of the side project rule.

EntilZha wrote:
oneyoudontknow wrote:
EntilZha wrote:
Is the last song on this release an original?

http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=12602

http://www.musik-sammler.de/media/52705

Yeah, it's not cover. However, I just checked, and it's not a metal song, it's a punk song. I guess one could still let it pass through the side-project rule with one original song, nevermind then...

The genre might have to be changed to something like "Metal/Punk covers of Pop songs" I guess.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:11 pm 
 

There is no such rule for cover bands. Nothern Kings were not accepted (with Morrigan's expressed agreemment) and neither was Abbath Motörhead cover band with releases.
Cover band is a cover band and is not allowed, be it a side project or not.

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EntilZha
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:24 pm 
 

What I (obviously) meant is that the side-project rule was used for their single original song.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:35 am 
 

Report for Vile Existence:

Please remove the link to the album 'inside the mind' the recordings are old and have been redone.


Deleted, no releases yet.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:06 am 
 

Removed Schwardix Marvally. The songs are not predominatly power metal, but rage from poppy to somehow nu-metal in Dir En Grey style.

Some songs were later remade in more metal versions for Hizaki Grace, but this project was not yet predominantly metal.


Also A Plea For Purging - more -core than metal.

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ralfman
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 3:43 pm 
 

As you might noticed i've been adding many indonesian bands lately.
These ones added by user thrashmania80gr today are not new for me, however...

The fact is, i really doubt their "Metalness"

Red Spider:

In their album , To me only 2, 3 songs deserve the tag Metal. I think is much more Glam/AOR type than Heavy Metal.

As for the 2 splits, the same. 1 song can be Metal Perhaps 2.

Of course this is my opinion

Here are the samples:
http://klasikrock-klasikrockindonesia.b ... Red+Spider
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 3:57 pm 
 

Yes, he provided samples which he claimed are typical for the songs Gemuruh and Laba.

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ralfman
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 5:14 pm 
 

The same for Jet Liar

although i believe this one to be more borderline than the previous , but still, i wouldn´t consider it Metal

http://klasikrock-klasikrockindonesia.b ... q=jet+liar

And Armada

http://klasikrock-klasikrockindonesia.b ... h?q=armada

1, 2 tracks to be (maybe) Metal...
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UralteStille
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 5:38 pm 
 

Boreb => Fake LLN band. One of the song is not by them but by Vlad Tepes (the song is NOT a cover, it's the exactly same recording). This song is called 'Morts'.

Vèhrzlav => Fake LLN band too. Second song of their demo was recorded by Vèrhzlévaryage ; last song is a modified (with computer I think) version of 'Our soul's worries' by Vlad Tepes. Said to be Vordb (from Belkètre) project's, but the guy on the cover is Vorlok (from Vlad Tepes) : it's a modified picture of the one which is on a Black murder artwork (which is one of Vorlok's bands).

Hvrúmbzgnrvóme => And once again, a LLN fake band ! Was founded in 2004 or so, are English, and fuck, just listen to the second song of their demo, it's obliviously a joke band ! I think (and hope) that no one can compose such thing thinking it's good... This informations were confirmed to a friend of mine by someone who run a distro in Belgium.

Belzéprout => It's a joke band, for example 'Bob l'éponge en string' is a parody of 'Black Metal ist Krieg' ; the articles in the myspace are also things like 'I'm fucking trve and nihilist, and you can't understand me, you're not trve !' Plus, no release were REALLY made (this is why the so-called demo couldn't be added, due to the absence of tracklist).

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Derigin
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 5:48 pm 
 

The LLN bands are not being removed.

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Fanfarigoule
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 5:49 pm 
 

Bands based on a joke are accepted, as long as they meet our requirements (metalness + physical release with own songs).

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UralteStille
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 5:58 pm 
 

Fanfarigoule wrote:
Bands based on a joke are accepted, as long as they meet our requirements (metalness + physical release with own songs).


Bored and Belzéprout have none, and Vèrhzlav has none either I think (even if there is a cover shown, it's not a real band, anyway).

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ralfman
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 6:01 pm 
 

SAS

Basically Rock...

http://klasikrock-klasikrockindonesia.b ... arch?q=sas
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 6:11 pm 
 

UralteStille wrote:
ored and Belzéprout have none, and Vèrhzlav has none either I think (even if there is a cover shown, it's not a real band, anyway).


That's not what he says here:
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuse ... =300438698
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuse ... =328565052

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Drowned
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:12 pm 
 

ralfman wrote:
As you might noticed i've been adding many indonesian bands lately.
These ones added by user thrashmania80gr today are not new for me, however...

The fact is, i really doubt their "Metalness"

Red Spider:

In their album , To me only 2, 3 songs deserve the tag Metal. I think is much more Glam/AOR type than Heavy Metal.

As for the 2 splits, the same. 1 song can be Metal Perhaps 2.

Of course this is my opinion

Here are the samples:
http://klasikrock-klasikrockindonesia.b ... Red+Spider


Thanks for the samples. I've removed SAS, Jet Liar and Armada. Red Spider has apparently been deleted as well.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:18 am 
 

Fanfarigoule wrote:
UralteStille wrote:
ored and Belzéprout have none, and Vèrhzlav has none either I think (even if there is a cover shown, it's not a real band, anyway).


That's not what he says here:
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuse ... =300438698
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuse ... =328565052

Boreb really should be removed. It was accepted back then in the heat of discussion with an ex-moderator, is blatantly not metal and nobody has ever proven that it had physical releases or belonged to LLN.

I will delete them, since they are for 99% a fake band.


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Madera
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 6:55 am 
 

Ten days ago Cloak of Displacement was rejected according to the rule #5 "Must be a heavy metal band... ...Or close enough".
And today has been approved!: http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540301529

???

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:17 am 
 

Differet people are working on the site. If there will be a consensus of other staffers, that it is not metal enough, it can be removed, I do not care either way in the case of this band.

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2thrashmania80
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:55 pm 
 

Drowned wrote:
ralfman wrote:
As you might noticed i've been adding many indonesian bands lately.
These ones added by user thrashmania80gr today are not new for me, however...

The fact is, i really doubt their "Metalness"

Red Spider:

In their album , To me only 2, 3 songs deserve the tag Metal. I think is much more Glam/AOR type than Heavy Metal.

As for the 2 splits, the same. 1 song can be Metal Perhaps 2.

Of course this is my opinion

Here are the samples:
http://klasikrock-klasikrockindonesia.b ... Red+Spider


Thanks for the samples. I've removed SAS, Jet Liar and Armada. Red Spider has apparently been deleted as well.


Here is thrashmania80gr,
Since im banned from forum for long time i have to create a new account!
Well these Indonesian bands that i have submitted they have at least 3 or 4 metal songs that i already send to the moderators by reporting the band before submitted!These bands playing heavy metal with the half songs being ballads...Really i cant understand why Ralfman report these bands as he had add a band (Rudal) that is the same with these bands and some others that i have already reported...Rudal for example has 3-4 metal songs but all the others are ballads...
http://klasikrock-klasikrockindonesia.b ... -1993.html

So, since that these bands have already (like Rudal) been added thats why i added some also...
SAS...i have found their Metal Baja album first that has some heavy songs...after i found out that they have some other albums.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:01 pm 
 

Rudal is metal enough, has about two ballads, one of them is with metal parts. You were banned from forums for a reason and were told to stay away from them.

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2thrashmania80
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:05 pm 
 

Witcher wrote:
Rudal is metal enough, has about two ballads, one of them is with metal parts. You were banned from forums for a reason and were told to stay away from them.


Why u speak like this to me ?i explain what heppened here...Did u add accept these bands?Did i send u at least 3 songs of each band?I wanted to explain what happened here...and at last Rudal are the same band with the others that deleted

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:08 pm 
 

You have forgotten to mention,that those two songs ae not typical for the bands. Rudal is not the same, since they are predominantly metal. Once again, stop now and at least leave the forum with dignity, since last time you were banned exactly for this routine and overtly dramatic behaviour.

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2thrashmania80
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:11 pm 
 

Witcher wrote:
You have forgotten to mention,that those two songs ae not typical for the bands. Rudal is not the same, since they are predominantly metal. Once again, stop now and at least leave the forum with dignity, since last time you were banned exactly for this routine and overtly dramatic behaviour.


Im trying to do a converstion here but now u r attacking me...Anyway what i wanted to say is done, i feel better now cos i love what im doing on this site...anyway have a good night

PS sorry but was at least 4 songs...

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ralfman
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:59 pm 
 

2thrashmania80 wrote:
Here is thrashmania80gr,
Since im banned from forum for long time i have to create a new account!
Well these Indonesian bands that i have submitted they have at least 3 or 4 metal songs that i already send to the moderators by reporting the band before submitted!These bands playing heavy metal with the half songs being ballads...Really i cant understand why Ralfman report these bands as he had add a band (Rudal) that is the same with these bands and some others that i have already reported...Rudal for example has 3-4 metal songs but all the others are ballads...
http://klasikrock-klasikrockindonesia.b ... -1993.html

So, since that these bands have already (like Rudal) been added thats why i added some also...
SAS...i have found their Metal Baja album first that has some heavy songs...after i found out that they have some other albums.


Hi

Did you ever listen to the hole Armada album? 1st song ok... but the rest... not Metal at all.

I could have add them all , but i didn´t , just because i've listen to albuns totaly, well not all but i've played all songs... :ugh:
and realized they weren't worthy of being here (of course , by my ears).

And if you listen to the other one; Kayakas;
http://klasikrock-klasikrockindonesia.b ... ?q=Kayakas

that i didnt mentioned, half the album are pop rock ballads.
I would keep that one but Perhaps to the ear of some mod that one probably wouldn't fit either...

But there are other bands like those, and i can tell everyone who might care , to take a listen, for exemple, to this one;

Rolland Band
http://klasikrock-klasikrockindonesia.b ... lland+band

I've listened to it 3 times and i still have doubts as to if would be accepted or not...
If anyone would care, please i would apreciate an opinion, mod or not.
I'll not submit this one unless i have some sort of positive feedback. My opinion is that they aren't Metal enough but again perhaps the mods could have a diferent opinion...

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2thrashmania80
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:25 pm 
 

ralfman wrote:

Hi

Did you ever listen to the hole Armada album? 1st song ok... but the rest... not Metal at all.

I could have add them all , but i didn´t , just because i've listen to albuns totaly, well not all but i've played all songs... :ugh:
and realized they weren't worthy of being here (of course , by my ears).

And if you listen to the other one; Kayakas;
http://klasikrock-klasikrockindonesia.b ... ?q=Kayakas

that i didnt mentioned, half the album are pop rock ballads.
I would keep that one but Perhaps to the ear of some mod that one probably wouldn't fit either...

But there are other bands like those, and i can tell everyone who might care , to take a listen, for exemple, to this one;

Rolland Band
http://klasikrock-klasikrockindonesia.b ... lland+band

I've listened to it 3 times and i still have doubts as to if would be accepted or not...
If anyone would care, please i would apreciate an opinion, mod or not.
I'll not submit this one unless i have some sort of positive feedback. My opinion is that they aren't Metal enough but again perhaps the mods could have a diferent opinion...

:beer:


Well i have listen all the album by Kayakas and here is the metal tracks:

02. Sesat
05. Gerhana
06. Cermin
07. Kisas
08. Keadilan

From the 8 tracks the 5 is metal for me...

Anyway as i said before these bands has some metal songs and some ballads.
And i explain before why i have submitted them...there are many bands on the site like these that deleted
Another one that i remembered is Overload from China...their first album is half metal and half ballads (i have it on original cd, if u want i can upload to listen to it) and their other albums are rock...

Red Spider has 3 metal songs and the other are ballads.

Armada as u said the first track is Metal and has some other songs that bordering with metal and hard rock...Submitted by me as Heavy Metal/Hard Rock and i have send 4 songs to mods.

SAS propably after the other albums that i found dont belong...as i said i found Metal Baja album first that is also (except the first track) some songs bordering with heavy metal/hard rock...also that 1 sybmitted as Heavy Metal/Hard Rock

In the end i wanted to say that im not trying to make a situation here against no one...There are some bands that submitted by me and i wanted to tell my opinion since these are reported and deleted.
Thanx

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 10:30 am 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540301667

already in:
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=199214
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 2:54 pm 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=103142
http://aethyr.eu/index.php
MP3 band?
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uglur
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 5:41 pm 
 

why is there a profile for Mystik ans Mystic (USA)??

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=54648
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=1546

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Fanfarigoule
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 5:45 pm 
 

Because it says so in the rules. The band was submitted in 2005 and it's more recently that it was decided that it applies only when the name change is significant enough.

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uglur
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 5:51 pm 
 

Fanfarigoule wrote:
Because it says so in the rules. The band was submitted in 2005 and it's more recently that it was decided that it applies only when the name change is significant enough.


I don't know if I got you right, but do you mean that the name change form Mystic to Mystik is significant enough?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 5:52 pm 
 

No, I'm going to take care of it.

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invoking_the_majesty
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 2:52 am 
 

Forestmist from South Africa was added today, saying they released a cassette on my label. That release never happened, this band has no discography, as the band never got back to me with artwork or the tracks so I could in no way release the cassette. My MySpace blog shows no history of a release for this band so I see no reason as to why they should be here.

If the person that added the band got the idea I had released something, it was because my myspace page itself is wrong, it says the tape is out now, the person that coded my site did that incorrectly.

So to clarify, there was never, and will never be a released on my label for this band.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 4:06 am 
 

Ok, sorry. Yeah, I accepted the band based the MySpace page listing the tape under "out now". I was a bit hesitant when I didn't see in the "Releases & Distro" blog, but I accepted it anyway.

Then again, the demo was supposed to be released on CD-R by Hellspell Productions; probably have to contact that label to ask if it's released there. If not, then the band can be deleted. For now, I updated the page to reflect this info.
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