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MMisantropo
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:42 am 
 

It is not misleading at all. To call the album Power Metal "glam" would be totally wrong.

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Snowgrave
Under The Plaintive Sky

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:52 pm 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=25758

...:lol: A bit excessive?
I think progressive/power metal is sufficient enough. Your opinion?

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MMisantropo
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:13 pm 
 

I shortened it somewhat. By the way, what an annoying voice!!

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Fulgurius
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 10:21 am 
 

Deathdemona
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=96225

Samples from the debut demo:
http://www.utm.org.ua/bands.php?mode=band&bid=41
Samples from the full-length:
http://www.realmusic.ru/deathdemona/

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GraveWish
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:00 am 
 

Band: Dahlia's Dead --> wrong genre.

You can check music here: http://kristavanguilder.com/

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AurvandiL
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:29 am 
 

About Finntroll:

I do not deny the humppa influence, nor the folk metal side, but the latest album sounds like modern symphonic/melodic extreme metal.
Besides, I think there always has been black metal influences (pretty strong even in the Rivfader demo).
So maybe something like "Humppa-influenced folk/black metal" would be appropriate.

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Morrigan
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:07 am 
 

Not even close.

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AurvandiL
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:27 am 
 

Then what?

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TheGrimWombat
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:47 am 
 

Just leave it as it is...it's fine.

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Nyaricus
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 2:55 am 
 

MMisantropo wrote:
It is not misleading at all. To call the album Power Metal "glam" would be totally wrong.

To make up an "80s Metal" sub-genre is even worse.

Plague Metal 4EVAR!!1
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TheGrimWombat
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 4:55 am 
 

Nyaricus wrote:
MMisantropo wrote:
It is not misleading at all. To call the album Power Metal "glam" would be totally wrong.

To make up an "80s Metal" sub-genre is even worse.

Plague Metal 4EVAR!!1


Most people assume that 80s/traditional/heavy metal are all pretty much the same thing...

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failsafeman
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 6:42 am 
 

Because they are, except for the fact that obviously some traditional/heavy metal isn't actually from the 80s.
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lord_ghengis
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:42 am 
 

TheGrimWombat wrote:
Nyaricus wrote:
MMisantropo wrote:
It is not misleading at all. To call the album Power Metal "glam" would be totally wrong.

To make up an "80s Metal" sub-genre is even worse.

Plague Metal 4EVAR!!1


Most people assume that 80s/traditional/heavy metal are all pretty much the same thing...


I've always assumed Heavy Metal and Traditional Metal are the same thing. Am I wrong? and if so whats the difference. And if not, how come Black Sabbath is listed as Traditional/Heavy metal if those terms both mean the same thing

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Kruel
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 2:58 pm 
 

Heavy and traditional mean the same thing, as far as I know (of course except when heavy metal means all of metal).
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Derigin
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:49 pm 
 

Kruel wrote:
Heavy and traditional mean the same thing, as far as I know (of course except when heavy metal means all of metal).

I tend to associate traditional as not quite wholly heavy metal, nor rock or hard rock. Somewhere in between. Though, it's entirely subjective and arbitrary.

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Kruel
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 4:21 pm 
 

Well, what band would you say belong to traditional but not heavy, or vice versa?
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Derigin
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 4:47 pm 
 

I arguably consider Skid Row and Virgin Steele as fitting the definition of "traditional" I gave. Possibly Thin Lizzy and Scorpions too. King Diamond, Iron Maiden, Manowar, even Black Sabbath would be what I would consider more wholly heavy metal in that definition.

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AurvandiL
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 5:42 pm 
 

Herem, listed as "Doom Metal".

Sounds a lot like Sludge.
Listen here.

"Sludge/Doom Metal" would fit better.

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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 6:39 pm 
 

AurvandiL wrote:
Herem, listed as "Doom Metal".

Sounds a lot like Sludge.
Listen here.

"Sludge/Doom Metal" would fit better.

I have their full-length CD and I would second this suggestion.
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I have bought the Belmez - Berserker CD recently and the music is not entirely black metal. The music wakes memories on Type O Negative (guitars, riffs) and the drums are also not typical BM ...
http://ifolder.ru/247879
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PriestofSadWings
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:45 pm 
 

Derigin wrote:
I arguably consider Skid Row and Virgin Steele as fitting the definition of "traditional" I gave. Possibly Thin Lizzy and Scorpions too. King Diamond, Iron Maiden, Manowar, even Black Sabbath would be what I would consider more wholly heavy metal in that definition.


In other words, if it leans a little more towards hard rock, it's traditional? Man, that's really splitting hairs.
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Snowgrave
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:53 pm 
 

Crimson Tears, from the UK, are listed as symphonic power metal. But, I believe they play more Gothic/Symphonic Metal, in the vain of Leaves' Eyes, rather than power metal. I know it's not a HUGE difference, but I think it's important.

http://www.myspace.com/ukcrimsontears

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TheGrimWombat
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:27 pm 
 

PriestofSadWings wrote:
Derigin wrote:
I arguably consider Skid Row and Virgin Steele as fitting the definition of "traditional" I gave. Possibly Thin Lizzy and Scorpions too. King Diamond, Iron Maiden, Manowar, even Black Sabbath would be what I would consider more wholly heavy metal in that definition.


In other words, if it leans a little more towards hard rock, it's traditional? Man, that's really splitting hairs.


Exactly...why get so specific?

Traditional/Heavy/80s metal are umbrella terms.

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Mieresch
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 5:10 am 
 

http://www.myspace.com/wolfchant

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=48056

Is epic pagan metal really a good idea for a genre? I mean it's not very descriptive.. . There's some black metal in this. Folkish black metal? Don't know, but the genre should be changed.

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MMisantropo
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 9:20 am 
 

Wolfchant: changed to Pagan/Folk Metal, though perhaps Viking/Folk Metal would fit better? "black" and "epic" are not particularly descriptive of this band.

Crimson Tears: changed to symphonic/progressive metal. Female vocals do not make a band gothic. The music here is closer to that of Vanden Plas or Charisma.

Herem: wouldn't sludge imply hardcore influences? 'cause what I hear is stoner/doom influenced by late 60's proto-metal/psychedelia.

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Fulgurius
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 6:06 pm 
 

Phantasmagory
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=9433
They played progressive death metal, not death/black.

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Kruel
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 7:38 pm 
 

Fulgurius wrote:
Phantasmagory
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=9433
They played progressive death metal, not death/black.

I think it was actually tagged progressive death metal the last time I checked... It's strange that it has been changed to a wrong one, if my memory is correct.
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PriestofSadWings
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 9:03 pm 
 

I reported this, and so I'm posting it here.

3D House Of Beef

The band's genre is listed as Slow Sludgy Doom Metal. This can be changed to Sludge Doom Metal, since doom metal is slow by definition.

I mean, what's next, power metal with clean vocals? :p
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Nyaricus
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 1:56 am 
 

PriestofSadWings wrote:
I mean, what's next, power metal with clean vocals? :p

Well, not to start a large diatribe on Children of Bodom, but... ;)

EDIT: actually, that quip about "slow" metal got me thinking about the pace fo music, so I looked up, fast (nothing) slow (nothing again) and then pace and got:

2 search results for "pace"

1. Dimension F3H Space / Industrial Metal
2. Oxiplegatz Electronic/space metal

Is "space" a valid genre? Really?
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AurvandiL
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:24 am 
 

Nyaricus wrote:
Is "space" a valid genre? Really?


Technically, it isn't. Usually it's atmospheric/prog metal in disguise.
Better go case by case anyways.

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AurvandiL
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:29 am 
 

Midnight

Currently listed as: "Speed Metal"



Link for a quick listen

"Black/Thrash Metal with Punk influences" ?

Mmh... Even "Thrash Metal" would do, I guess...
Opinions?

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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:36 am 
 

Autumn in Frost
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=127892

according to the band would the following description be more accurate:
Black Metal, Acoustic/Folk
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SitraAhra
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 7:23 am 
 

Throttlerod is for sure Stoner Rock/Metal.No Heavy Metal signs there.I even doubt if this band belong to M-A at all.But since sound is like KYUSS so I think its acceptable band.Just the bad thing is that this band is have punk roots.
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MMisantropo
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 7:28 am 
 

Midnight: Venom/Warfare/Exciter worship, totally speed metal.

Autumn in Frost: c'mon, what a waste of time.

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Inhumer
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:03 am 
 

Grind is a punk genre, it can't be technical


http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=79406

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=78650

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=910

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=42757

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=29101

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=2781

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=129881

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Kruel
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:16 am 
 

Inhumer wrote:
Grind is a punk genre, it can't be technical


Why not?
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Bezerko
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:17 am 
 

Kruel wrote:
Inhumer wrote:
Grind is a punk genre, it can't be technical


Why not?


Indeed, the statement is ultimate fail. Even if it was to be true, the fact that all these bands are "grind / *insert metal genre here*" completely invalidates his statement anyway.

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Port_Manteau
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:05 am 
 

Could someone explain to me why The Day Everything Became Nothing is considered goregrind?

I mean sure, they've got the deep urgle gurgle gurgle, boulders rubbing together vocals, but other than that they're almost always chugga chugga death metal riffs and mid/mid-high tempo songs.

This is, of course, in at least what I've heard, which would be all of Brutal and Invention:Destruction. They don't really have too much of a grindy aspect from what I can tell. They remind me a lot of Prostitute Disfigurement.

So if someone could point something out i'm missing, or if i'm just being all-out retarded, please do so.

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Inhumer
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 7:41 pm 
 

Kruel wrote:
Inhumer wrote:
Grind is a punk genre, it can't be technical


Why not?

...Because its punk

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Inhumer
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 7:45 pm 
 

You know what, forget about it

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TheGrimWombat
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:14 pm 
 

Inhumer wrote:
You know what, forget about it


Finally realize what kind of fucking moron you are?

Good.

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