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christkiller
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 3:23 am 
 

Finally !!!

wait, NO, that's a different band from the 80's :lol:

:D

Hope people won't start sending reports about this or add the other band's discography

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SitraAhra
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 3:37 am 
 

:D :D :D Yeah.That Rocks,but I must warn you listen to SLIPKNOT music because as far as I know Revelation Records from U.S deals mostly with Punk/HC stuff so I have a big doubts if this band sounds really metal.Must ask my brother(He's old time punker)...
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christkiller
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 3:40 am 
 

SitraAhra wrote:
:D :D :D Yeah.That Rocks,but I must warn you listen to SLIPKNOT music because as far as I know Revelation Records from U.S deals mostly with Punk/HC stuff so I have a big doubts if this band sounds really metal.Must ask my brother(He's old time punker)...


got some reports saying they are thrash/crossover + sounding like Corrosion of Conformity

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SitraAhra
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 3:44 am 
 

Hmmm .To my ears they sounds like typical HC band from 1986-1990 years.Right now I'm listen to some MP3 files(Found these on that Link posted in SLIPKNOT page)
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Reaper43
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 3:46 am 
 

I would have too agree, they seem too be on the hardcore side of crossover, more so then the thrash side.

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christkiller
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 3:48 am 
 

:shock: :shock: :shock:

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

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christkiller
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 3:53 am 
 

wow ... I just listened 1 mp3 and honestly I don't know as I'm not into punk/crossover etc

The only think I"m sure is that I HATE this music because I have now a headache

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Reaper43
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 3:54 am 
 

Sorry Christkiller, but they seriously don't seem like they belong.

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christkiller
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 3:55 am 
 

I'll ask Witcher to check them then though

(next time I won't follow droneriot's report :grumble: :grumble:) :P

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Reaper43
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 5:41 am 
 

I took a second listen, once you get past the muddy sound of the guitar, it is invariably crossover leaning towards thrash, I made a mistake. Sorry, and life goes on.

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Shutdown
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 5:47 am 
 

There are a fair amount of thrash riffs to be found among these songs. I think they should stay here.


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Witcher
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 5:47 am 
 

christkiller wrote:
I'll ask Witcher to check them then though

(next time I won't follow droneriot's report :grumble: :grumble:) :P


I agree with droneriot, except for the rather punkish first song, it is eighties type crossover, thrashcore.

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SitraAhra
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:38 am 
 

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I agree with droneriot, except for the rather punkish first song, it is eighties type crossover, thrashcore


Hmmm.In early years when I lived with my brother (he's 34 y.o punk/HC follower since 1986,punlished zine,worked on Radio show ) I listened to lots of simmilar stuff and must admit that can't find much Crossover there.Some riffs maybe sounds in this vein,but majority of vocals,song structures,HC attitude is clear.For me it will stay as HC band(Coz at that time almost ALL HC bands sounded like this one) with some Crossover influences.In 80s there were a lot of simmilar sounding bands,and if this one is accepted I'm afraid that more will follow.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:59 am 
 

SitraAhra wrote:
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I agree with droneriot, except for the rather punkish first song, it is eighties type crossover, thrashcore


Hmmm.In early years when I lived with my brother (he's 34 y.o punk/HC follower since 1986,punlished zine,worked on Radio show ) I listened to lots of simmilar stuff and must admit that can't find much Crossover there.Some riffs maybe sounds in this vein,but majority of vocals,song structures,HC attitude is clear.For me it will stay as HC band(Coz at that time almost ALL HC bands sounded like this one) with some Crossover influences.In 80s there were a lot of simmilar sounding bands,and if this one is accepted I'm afraid that more will follow.


Many are already here:
http://www.myspace.com/ratos

Except for clearer sound, there is not such a big difference between the two bands.

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BlackFlag
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:05 am 
 

I think this band will cause some funny anecdotes and reports but I'm afraid this page will have to be corrected very often (deleting Slipknot albums and links).

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:55 am 
 

Then maybe they should have their page locked and people can just report new info if there is any.
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Because they are not considered metal? This is not fare!!!

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MMisantropo
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 10:17 pm 
 

A small warning on the additional notes should be more than enough to prevent this. People that prove not able to comprehend it don't possess the minimal potential to become valuable contributors.

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Caliginosity
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 10:22 pm 
 

I'm just waiting to see who the first person is that adds a nu metal slipknot release to the page. :roll:

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droneriot
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 10:25 pm 
 

Caliginosity wrote:
I'm just waiting to see who the first person is that adds a nu metal slipknot release to the page. :roll:

People really are that stupid.

For example, on the page of Helheim from Sarpsborg, Norway it clearly stated in the additional notes that this band is "not to be confused" with Helheim from Bergen, Norway, yet one day I discovered some moron adding the entire discography of the Bergen Helheim to the page of the Sarpsborg Helheim. Since then, the page says "NOT to be confused" in bold. :lol:

You can be 100% certain that the entire discography of the Iowa Slipknot will be added sooner or later.
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Metalich
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 10:37 pm 
 

droneriot wrote:
People really are that stupid.


"The average person is an idiot. Now that is an average, so that means half the people in the world are dumber that that." - George Carlin


I suppose we'll need to wait for MAv2.0 for a better idiot-proofing method that remarks in the comment section.
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Funeral_Shadow
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:23 pm 
 

A long while back, I was going to add this Slipknot band to the Archives but I really figured that they are more hardcore oriented than metal.

If this is the case, then let's add some more power violence, fast thrash sounding hardcore bands to the Archives. I'll start with Agnostic Front (for their older stuff that sounds alittle bit like Slipknot, but Agnostic Front's older stuff sounds more "metaller" than these guys) and then I'll put on Spazz.

What do you say?


::joking around while trying to make a point::
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Hellrisen
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:29 pm 
 

Funeral_Shadow wrote:
A long while back, I was going to add this Slipknot band to the Archives but I really figured that they are more hardcore oriented than metal.

If this is the case, then let's add some more power violence, fast thrash sounding hardcore bands to the Archives. I'll start with Agnostic Front (for their older stuff that sounds alittle bit like Slipknot, but Agnostic Front's older stuff sounds more "metaller" than these guys) and then I'll put on Spazz.

What do you say?


::joking around while trying to make a point::


I really wouldn't mind seeing bands like Charles Bronson on the archives

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Remnants_Of_Gore
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 4:55 am 
 

What an ultimate piece of spite to have this 80's band about 10 people have heard of, here and no sign of the mushroomhead ripoffs. This has made my day.

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Lordofthegrave
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 4:10 pm 
 

Remnants_Of_Gore wrote:
What an ultimate piece of spite to have this 80's band about 10 people have heard of, here and no sign of the mushroomhead ripoffs. This has made my day.


I agree, even if they are decided to be not metal enough (which I don't agree with) they should be allowed to stay for this reason alone..

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Lordofthegrave
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 4:12 pm 
 

hahah i guess quoting that was unnecessary as it was right above my post... oh well :roll:

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Star-Gazer
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 7:19 pm 
 

droneriot wrote:
Caliginosity wrote:
I'm just waiting to see who the first person is that adds a nu metal slipknot release to the page. :roll:

People really are that stupid.

For example, on the page of Helheim from Sarpsborg, Norway it clearly stated in the additional notes that this band is "not to be confused" with Helheim from Bergen, Norway, yet one day I discovered some moron adding the entire discography of the Bergen Helheim to the page of the Sarpsborg Helheim. Since then, the page says "NOT to be confused" in bold. :lol:

You can be 100% certain that the entire discography of the Iowa Slipknot will be added sooner or later.
and I saw "Look What the Cat Dragged In," and others on this page before

(though I think the disclaimer is completely unnecessary)

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TheGrimWombat
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 7:39 pm 
 

einvolk wrote:
droneriot wrote:
Caliginosity wrote:
I'm just waiting to see who the first person is that adds a nu metal slipknot release to the page. :roll:

People really are that stupid.

For example, on the page of Helheim from Sarpsborg, Norway it clearly stated in the additional notes that this band is "not to be confused" with Helheim from Bergen, Norway, yet one day I discovered some moron adding the entire discography of the Bergen Helheim to the page of the Sarpsborg Helheim. Since then, the page says "NOT to be confused" in bold. :lol:

You can be 100% certain that the entire discography of the Iowa Slipknot will be added sooner or later.
and I saw "Look What the Cat Dragged In," and others on this page before

(though I think the disclaimer is completely unnecessary)


...wow...

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Caliginosity
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 7:14 pm 
 

look in the queue list, Stone Sour :lol: :lol: :ugh:

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prezuiwf
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 7:42 pm 
 

Caliginosity wrote:
look in the queue list, Stone Sour :lol: :lol: :ugh:


Haha, I saw that too. The genre's just listed as "metal."

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BardInTheForest
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:00 pm 
 

I bet it was submitted by the BlackIronDeth_1666 guy or whatever his name was...

edit: yep.

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Bash
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 8:56 am 
 

Yeah I figured that guy wouldn't last long from the first post he made here.

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BlackIronDethNo_1666
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 11:47 am 
 

I bet it was submitted by the BlackIronDeth_1666 guy or whatever his name was...

Yes i did submit slipknot the nu metal band and stone sour why they got rejected i dont know why they are both metal.I do belive this is a metal archive
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Caliginosity
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 11:57 am 
 

they are nu metal, which is an unacceptable genre in the metal archives

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BlackIronDethNo_1666
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 12:06 pm 
 

they are nu metal, which is an unacceptable genre in the metal archives


Why it is still metal
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Reaper43
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 12:10 pm 
 

No Nu-Metal isn't metal, in fact it's far from it. It's more a combination of Industrial and Hard Rock in it's more simple forms. However it does have many other aspects and genre's mixed into it's existence depending on the band, none of which qualify it as metal. So drop it, because you aren't going to change anyone's opinion around here as too the metalness of Slipknot, Stone Sour or Nu-Metal in general.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 12:34 pm 
 

The industrial influence is much rarer than grunge, funk and hip hop elements.

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Reaper43
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Like I said it depends on the band, no matter not metal so does it need to be discussed.
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I noticed the fellow who submitted the band in question has since been Dursted. :lol:
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BlackFlag
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 2:37 am 
 

He has a new account: "BearPetrucci" or something like that.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:32 pm 
 

BlackIronDethNo_1666 wrote:
Why it is still metal


u sir, are a big vagina

mallcore isnt metal

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