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Diamhea
Eats and Spits Corpses

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:20 pm 
 

More core than metal.

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LeMiserable
Milhouse van Houten

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Location: Netherlands
PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:27 pm 
 

Fair enough, I guess.
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aaauuuuu
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Location: Indonesia
PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 10:34 pm 
 

Why was Tjahjo Wisanggeni blacklisted?
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OpsiusCato
Mexican Metal Inquisition

Joined: Thu Oct 05, 2006 4:42 am
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Location: Mexico
PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 10:47 pm 
 

aaauuuuu wrote:
Why was Tjahjo Wisanggeni blacklisted?

Unacceptable shred/instrumental rock.
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thrashinbatman
Metal newbie

Joined: Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:31 pm
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 11:57 am 
 

I had my submission for the thrash band Bleed the Victim rejected for a lack of evidence of release. It was so long ago I started the draft I can't remember what I had in the submission (I accidentally submitted it without making sure I had all of the relevant links), but anyway, here's an announcement from their FB page saying they released an EP in April:
https://www.facebook.com/BleedTheVictim ... 2754215402

https://www.facebook.com/BleedTheVictim ... 5878421423

And here's a link to their Reverb for metalness if that's needed as well:

http://www.reverbnation.com/bleedthevictim

Sorry for missing that, I didn't mean to!
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borakass
Mallcore Kid

Joined: Fri Mar 21, 2014 12:46 am
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:42 pm 
 

One Too Many Camel was rejected on the basis that it was not metal.

This is a mistake. The band's music (available for streaming via bandcamp at https://onetoomanycamel.bandcamp.com ) is progressive metal with elements of post-hardcore, in a very similar vein to The Ocean http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/The_Ocean/25189 and Textures http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Textures/13896 .

Reference this song for evidence of 'metalness' https://onetoomanycamel.bandcamp.com/track/beyond-the-wall

And this song for evidence of stone/sludge-metal elements https://onetoomanycamel.bandcamp.com/track/feet-of-clay-intro

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artery
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Joined: Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:10 am
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Location: Germany
PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:12 am 
 

Extinction from USA(San Fernando Valley, California) ???
https://www.facebook.com/extinctionmetal
they have two releases on cd:
http://oi58.tinypic.com/w7c64n.jpg
http://oi57.tinypic.com/ir2jhh.jpg
greetings

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Azmodes
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Joined: Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:44 am
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Location: Gradec, Austria
PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:20 am 
 

thrashinbatman wrote:
I had my submission for the thrash band Bleed the Victim rejected for a lack of evidence of release. It was so long ago I started the draft I can't remember what I had in the submission (I accidentally submitted it without making sure I had all of the relevant links), but anyway, here's an announcement from their FB page saying they released an EP in April:
https://www.facebook.com/BleedTheVictim ... 2754215402

https://www.facebook.com/BleedTheVictim ... 5878421423

And here's a link to their Reverb for metalness if that's needed as well:

http://www.reverbnation.com/bleedthevictim

Sorry for missing that, I didn't mean to!

Hm, any more details? Is it a CD release? CD-R? How many copies?

borakass wrote:
One Too Many Camel was rejected on the basis that it was not metal.

Sorry, I just had to sig this. :D About the band, I remember it was more prog/post-hardcore than actual metal. I'll re-listen later.

artery wrote:
Extinction from USA(San Fernando Valley, California) ???
https://www.facebook.com/extinctionmetal
they have two releases on cd:
http://oi58.tinypic.com/w7c64n.jpg
http://oi57.tinypic.com/ir2jhh.jpg
greetings

It seems there's also a metalcore band from the US with that name. I've temporarily removed it from the blacklist.
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GabrielBilly51
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:38 pm 
 

I present this band on Metal Archives ???
She sounds like Metal ???






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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:52 pm 
 

Ah, I don't think this was rejected before? We don't do "pre-checks". If you think the band qualifies, submit them. If you're unsure, probably best not to.
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NOTE: This thread is NOT for asking about whether a certain band is acceptable or not. Initial assessment of bands is what the band queue is for. This thread is for appeals to/questions about rejections/deletions/blacklistings only. Inquiries about "pre-checks" will be ignored. So don't try to cut in line.
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thrashinbatman
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Joined: Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:31 pm
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 8:10 pm 
 

Azmodes wrote:
thrashinbatman wrote:
I had my submission for the thrash band Bleed the Victim rejected for a lack of evidence of release. It was so long ago I started the draft I can't remember what I had in the submission (I accidentally submitted it without making sure I had all of the relevant links), but anyway, here's an announcement from their FB page saying they released an EP in April:
https://www.facebook.com/BleedTheVictim ... 2754215402

https://www.facebook.com/BleedTheVictim ... 5878421423

And here's a link to their Reverb for metalness if that's needed as well:

http://www.reverbnation.com/bleedthevictim

Sorry for missing that, I didn't mean to!

Hm, any more details? Is it a CD release? CD-R? How many copies?

borakass wrote:
One Too Many Camel was rejected on the basis that it was not metal.

Sorry, I just had to sig this. :D About the band, I remember it was more prog/post-hardcore than actual metal. I'll re-listen later.

artery wrote:
Extinction from USA(San Fernando Valley, California) ???
https://www.facebook.com/extinctionmetal
they have two releases on cd:
http://oi58.tinypic.com/w7c64n.jpg
http://oi57.tinypic.com/ir2jhh.jpg
greetings

It seems there's also a metalcore band from the US with that name. I've temporarily removed it from the blacklist.


It's a CD-R release, I believe. I can't say for sure how many copies are made, but I can definitely tell you it's not a small limited release, they've had a lot available at every show they've played since they released.
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 6:22 am 
 

Okay, restored.
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zastaph
Mallcore Kid

Joined: Tue May 30, 2006 12:06 pm
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Location: Slovakia
PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 3:42 pm 
 

Hello, I would like to ask why Treasure Seeker (Germany) was blacklisted.

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:00 pm 
 

Apparently it's a cover band? We require bands to have at least some original material.
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teh_Foxx0rz
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Joined: Tue May 20, 2014 9:38 am
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Location: United Kingdom
PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:37 pm 
 

Azmodes wrote:
Apparently it's a cover band? We require bands to have at least some original material.

They do have one original track (the first track on the album) which is a neat slice of Europower: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5I-2MMvrW8

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:52 pm 
 

One track? That doesn't really seem enough.
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teh_Foxx0rz
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:57 pm 
 

Azmodes wrote:
One track? That doesn't really seem enough.

Yeah, I didn't figure so myself, heh.

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DarknessCrave
Mallcore Kid

Joined: Wed Aug 11, 2010 12:09 am
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Location: Chile
PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 3:29 pm 
 

Hello, I know this was discussed before. But the latest album of ACIDEZ (Mexico) is way more speed/thrash metal than hardcore/punk. The whole new album sounds like Children of Technology, Inepsy, Toxic Holocaust, Malignant Tumour, Speedwolf, etc.

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ly32Vt2ZCJU
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsXBHhJowS0
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAa_MQQUkpg
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DestPQ7AQc


what do you guys think?

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 3:37 pm 
 

Azmodes wrote:
borakass wrote:
One Too Many Camel was rejected on the basis that it was not metal.

Sorry, I just had to sig this. :D About the band, I remember it was more prog/post-hardcore than actual metal. I'll re-listen later.

Relistened and still not convinced, seems more like sludgy/atmospheric post-hardcore? Fellow mods, to the rescue!

DarknessCrave wrote:
Hello, I know this was discussed before. But the latest album of ACIDEZ (Mexico) is way more speed/thrash metal than hardcore/punk. The whole new album sounds like Children of Technology, Inepsy, Toxic Holocaust, Malignant Tumour, Speedwolf, etc.

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ly32Vt2ZCJU
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsXBHhJowS0
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAa_MQQUkpg
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DestPQ7AQc


what do you guys think?

Hm, was it discussed before? Not to my knowledge. Those samples sound metal enough, but I'm going to check the entire album and report back.
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delcev903
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Location: Macedonia (FYROM)
PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:28 pm 
 

The band Zvijer from Bosnia was rejected although they have physical release. Yes it's promo but it's not only for fanzines or labels. Everyone can order their tape on zvijer.band@gmail.com (postal services only). All individuals in this band are well-known on the Balkan underground scene. The tape itself has the same program on both sides.

http://postimg.org/image/ced6vflp9/

You talk about rules and principles, but there are a bunch of bands with promo CD's or tapes on this site however. Promo doesn't mean that its available only for magazines, fanzines and labels. I have few promo tapes and CD's in my collection.

No one distributes the tape for now, only way is through zvijer.band@gmail.com.

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:39 pm 
 

Alright, but do you know if there's a certain limited amount of copies? Or are they made on demand?

delcev903 wrote:
You talk about rules and principles, but there are a bunch of bands with promo CD's or tapes on this site however. Promo doesn't mean that its available only for magazines, fanzines and labels. I have few promo tapes and CD's in my collection.

Actually it can mean that, other than basically being a synonym for "demo". We don't allow the zine/label/radio-only variety because we define releases as publicly available. If you know of any non-public promo releases, please report them for deletion. Same for bands with nothing else released.
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delcev903
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:58 pm 
 

Azmodes wrote:
Alright, but do you know if there's a certain limited amount of copies? Or are they made on demand?


Its made on demand... For example, if you order a tape it will stay "promo tape only for azmodes".

However man, if this is not enough I will wait for some official distribution of the tape..

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 7:04 pm 
 

Should be fine, restored.
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DarknessCrave
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 7:25 pm 
 

Any news about Acidez?

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Sugmyama
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 12:37 pm 
 

I'm trying to add a band from Brazil but MA says that it was blacklisted and the submission will not go through if don't change de country.
Why it happens?

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 12:41 pm 
 

DarknessCrave wrote:
Any news about Acidez?

Be patient, please. Personally I think it's fine, but I'm still trying to get some more mods to share their thoughts.

Sugmyama wrote:
I'm trying to add a band from Brazil but MA says that it was blacklisted and the submission will not go through if don't change de country.
Why it happens?

What's the name of the band?
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Sugmyama
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:39 pm 
 

Fúria Louca

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:40 pm 
 

According to the blacklist, it's hard rock.
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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 6:56 am 
 

Under the Ocean
http://drownwithinrecords.bandcamp.com/ ... ark-waters
Should be reconsidered. They are blacklisted right now.
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:54 am 
 

Telling from the samples online, a good part of the full-length was already metal, this seems okay now. Can be submitted.
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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:31 pm 
 

Azmodes wrote:
Telling from the samples online, a good part of the full-length was already metal, this seems okay now. Can be submitted.

Thanks ... I have submitted them ...
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September 2013:
the 23rd edition of my magazine has been released:
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TheWho
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Joined: Mon May 05, 2008 1:59 am
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Location: Bangladesh
PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 12:05 am 
 

Hi,

My band RipOff was rejected due to an absence of any release materials. I already provided a link from amazon that we do in fact have a digital release. So please check into this, and I hope the issue is sorted. I am providing the link here again.

Thanks

Amazon - http://bit.ly/TOHAMZN
Google play - http://bit.ly/TOHGPlay

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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 12:07 am 
 

It's too short of a release to be accepted as digital-only. Needs to be twenty minutes at least.

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TheWho
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 12:25 am 
 

Diamhea wrote:
It's too short of a release to be accepted as digital-only. Needs to be twenty minutes at least.


That's just harsh mate. Anyways

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OpsiusCato
Mexican Metal Inquisition

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 2:49 pm 
 

How is it harsh? It's the rules. It is no harsher than writing longer songs.
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GreenHammer66
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 9:52 pm 
 

Here is a link to Ov Frost's bandcamp where you can download the single. I forgot to include it with the original submission.
https://ovfrost.bandcamp.com/track/the- ... eel-single

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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:27 pm 
 

GreenHammer66 wrote:
Here is a link to Ov Frost's bandcamp where you can download the single. I forgot to include it with the original submission.
https://ovfrost.bandcamp.com/track/the- ... eel-single

Dude, a digital-only single isn't a valid release. How much of the rejection message did you bother reading? :facepalm: I'll extract the relevant bit:
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Digital and available for full download: must also be a finished/final mix (no garage rehearsals or rough mixes), AND long enough (preferably over 20 minutes)

That single is six minutes long... please resubmit once the band has something more substantial released.
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GreenHammer66
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:35 pm 
 

My bad, I missed the part about it needing to be 20 minutes

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 8:16 am 
 

DarknessCrave wrote:
Any news about Acidez?

Can be submitted now.
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DarknessCrave
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 3:21 pm 
 

Nice, already submmited, thanks.

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