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MetalCuresHeadaches
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 2:21 am 
 

taufan99 wrote:
just because the band is not metal...shouldn't make the band not approved as a metal band.


I believe that was the part he wanted you to focus on man, not the grammar.

Why is Barnabas (US) blacklisted? Surely Feel the Fire, cheesy synths and all, is metal over hard rock.
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Zodijackyl
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 3:05 pm 
 

This is rock, not metal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFu5NbSBI-k

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PilariousD
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 5:37 pm 
 

Azmodes wrote:
I hate you. :P

Anywho, singles are not enough. Has to be a full-length or at least something more concrete and consistent than a single. Especially considering the output of this band to date.


In 2012 you wanted full-length album and there it is:
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=TFCC-86461

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griekis
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 9:26 am 
 

Why Heaven's Wish was deleted ?
Band use to be like 3 years ago, I had a saved MA page whit a band
https://myspace.com/heavenswishrock

http://www.spirit-of-metal.com/groupe-g ... -l-en.html

sounds to me metal, well Motley Crue is not more metal as this band and MC is here ???

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Dave_o_rama
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 3:55 pm 
 

Not sure where to post this, and I'm sorry if this is the wrong place for it.

I just submitted Maggot Colony into the band queue, and literally, the moment I hit submit, I realized that the band already got accepted through someone else's submission. If one of the mods could just delete/reject mine, I would appreciate it. Sorry about the mistake!
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Kvltbob Blackpants
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 9:33 pm 
 

Why was You Only Die Alot (Y.O.D.A.) rejected? They sound sufficiently metal to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niqIpaqFGFI
https://www.facebook.com/YodaYouOnlyDie ... 4879526524
http://www.spirit-of-metal.com/groupe-g ... -l-en.html
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Zodijackyl
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 9:42 pm 
 

Kvltbob Blackpants wrote:


Hardcore/deathcore.

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OracleChaosVault
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 6:42 am 
 

Hailz!
I want to add Rogi (Poland) but there's a message that this band is blacklisted - why? They've released a EP recently, so I think they are normal band like others? Of course I can send the pictures during the adding process etc...

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manoscure
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:29 am 
 

hello there,
i would kindly like to ask you to re-consider
the ban for my band Fallos.
Fallos was rejected and banned because it was not thought of as a metal band.
This is an experimental grindcore band.
I can see that there are bands in this genre accepted
like Broca's Aphasia for example.
Please feel free to check out the bandcamp links i have provided
and let me know.
My email is manoscure@yahoo.gr
Thank you.
Manos.
www.metal-archives.com/bands/Fallos/3540345813

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beast23
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:25 pm 
 

Greetings

I was trying to add my band "In flagrante delicto", but it is seems to be banned.
We are playing depressive/shoegaze black metal and we have released an album which is free for download from bandcamp (http://inflagrantedelicto.bandcamp.com/)
we have done mastering, made a cover, had a photoshoot and the album is in a permanent site for download. Is there a way to help us to make a profile? or you think there is still a problem?

thank you

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Metantoine
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:34 pm 
 

There's no problems, the band is simply not metal. This is ambient/drone. I'm quite flabbergasted that you think it's metal, really. There is absolutely no riffs here.
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NARAKU666
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:19 am 
 

Hi, guys!!!

I tried to submit Lucian The Wolfbearer but seems to be a blacklisted band. I supossed the band was rejected because the last album was more into the folky/acoustic area. The band just release a new album a few days ago and to be honest sounds very doom metal-y to my ears. Let me know is im allowed to submit it. i leave bandcamp link below


https://lucianthewolfbearer.bandcamp.com/album/haunted
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beast23
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 6:21 am 
 

actually it is experimental suicidal black like nortt and xasthur which are our influences....

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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 6:27 am 
 

beast23 wrote:
actually it is experimental suicidal black like nortt and xasthur which are our influences....

Both of those bands have a tonne of NON-metal influences in their music, too. What's your point? You're not drawing influences from the metallic parts of their music, that much is obvious. :p
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And you says that metal is about the riffs, that is bollocks, cause then black and death bands wouldn't get accepted, cause the play termolo-riffs.

they payl termolo! not real riff!

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beast23
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:47 am 
 

ok, so may someone from the admins can explain to me why are KTL are at the database? KTL are a drone/ambient project with no metal elements at all.
you can listen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I32KqPkQqrI

anyway our band has black metal riffs and vocals it is clear I think, you can also find experimental elements also, but the core of the music is depressive black.

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Metantoine
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:12 pm 
 

NARAKU666 wrote:
Hi, guys!!!

I tried to submit Lucian The Wolfbearer but seems to be a blacklisted band. I supossed the band was rejected because the last album was more into the folky/acoustic area. The band just release a new album a few days ago and to be honest sounds very doom metal-y to my ears. Let me know is im allowed to submit it. i leave bandcamp link below

https://lucianthewolfbearer.bandcamp.com/album/haunted

Removed from the blacklist. This is pretty terrible though!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:40 pm 
 

beast23 wrote:
ok, so may someone from the admins can explain to me why are KTL are at the database? KTL are a drone/ambient project with no metal elements at all.
you can listen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I32KqPkQqrI

anyway our band has black metal riffs and vocals it is clear I think, you can also find experimental elements also, but the core of the music is depressive black.


Side project of Stephen O'Malley - who's certainly large enough to fit under the side project rule.
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Helvede
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 5:41 pm 
 

Deleted Malaysian band Suffocation. This was a textbook example of a small and insignificant change of name to the current name Suffercation, that already has an entry on MA.

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beast23
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:54 pm 
 

so? and attila 's from mayhem project plasma pool (dark electronic) is not at the database, why o malley's ktl is?
if you search you may see bands like melvins, earth or boris... or pazuzu (from austria project of summoning) which are ritual/medieval.

anyway I believe that I just was unlucky with the admin that checked my band....

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OpsiusCato
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 3:41 pm 
 

Luck? There's no luck involved here... It's whether aband is acceptable of not, accdording to the rules. And, according to our standards, Plasma Pool can't be eligible for the Side Project Rule, since it was formed AFTER Tormentor had split up and BEFORE Attila joined Mayhem. Please, read the rules.
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MetalPacifist
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:24 pm 
 

Hello everyone :) I tried to submit band called Kryn from Croatia. They released their first full length album called "Scars Remind Me" not so long ago. The band obviously plays metal, but it's blacklisted. Any explanation why?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXGcNuP8P7k --> full "Scars Remind Me" album

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Zodijackyl
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:35 pm 
 

MetalPacifist wrote:
Hello everyone :) I tried to submit band called Kryn from Croatia. They released their first full length album called "Scars Remind Me" not so long ago. The band obviously plays metal, but it's blacklisted. Any explanation why?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXGcNuP8P7k --> full "Scars Remind Me" album


The blacklist note says it's nu-metal, and a brief listen to that confirms that.

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:39 pm 
 

^Aye, nothing "obviously metal" about this.
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Antimatzist
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 1:57 am 
 

Sakhet from Brasil.
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Sakhet/3540377897

I couldn't really put a name on their style, but I'd say it's something between Motörhead, Punk and early Heavy Metal (so I simply named it Heavy Metal, using the term in a very general sense). But I don't see where this is not metal, given that the transition between genres and styles of metal can be very fluent at times. But this is more metal to me than 99% of the Black Metal bands on MA; lol.

Or is Motörhead only included on MA because it is Motörhead?

Music can be listened here. http://www.reverbnation.com/sakhet

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murderson
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 8:09 am 
 

(I don't know if this is the right thread, I didn't want to open a new one for this, or should I?)

There are some mistakes about the Band "VHF", I want to admit.
-> http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/VHF/3540324531

The "Heart Of Stone"-Single and the "1st Impressions"-LP are from a different NWOBHM-band named "VHF" from Essex(?), UK.
So can some moderator delete this information from the VHF which are allready in MA? (link above)

I tried to add the other "VHF" into MA, but it said, that there is allready a "VHF" on the blacklist, maybe it is that band, who released this two recordings. (!?)
(I used the search in the forum but didn't find any result for "VHF"..)

So I don't know why another VHF is on the blacklist, if it is that VHF I wanted to add, and so on..?

A "proof" that they are two different Bands:
http://www.heavymetalrarities.com/forum ... 7&ilimit=v
(scroll down to VHF)
-> http://www.heavymetalrarities.com/forum ... 74&t=10862
-> "Not to be confused with VHF who released the 'Heart of Stone' 7''"

So I don't know what to do, it makes sense that they are two different VHFs.
The VHF from London (link at the beginning) putted out a (first?) demo in 1985.
The other VHF released 5 years earlier a single, and 1982 a full-lenght. So the difference in time and release-format is significant, in my eyes..

I think without more informations about two Bands with the same name from members of the two, or a witness of the time, my thoughts and this discussion are maybe useless, but nevertheless I wanted to report this.

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aaauuuuu
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 8:32 pm 
 

Why Алексеевская Площадь is blacklisted? There's new album which the songs now heavy metal enough (?) http://myzuka.ru/Album/478709/%D0%90%D0 ... D0%B0-2014
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throne Of Evil
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 9:48 am 
 

hi, there is a band that has been blacklisted and i dont know why, the band's name is Auriga from Lebanon, as far as they are an Ambient/atmospheric black metal band, they released there debut album (reflection of the magestic). this is the label they released the album with http://kunsthauch.com/ , and here is there materials http://kunsthauch.bandcamp.com/album/re ... e-magestic ..... can i know why? well i can listen metal in all its forms, thank you

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theunrelentingattack
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 1:20 pm 
 

throne Of Evil wrote:
hi, there is a band that has been blacklisted and i dont know why, the band's name is Auriga from Lebanon, as far as they are an Ambient/atmospheric black metal band, they released there debut album (reflection of the magestic). this is the label they released the album with http://kunsthauch.com/ , and here is there materials http://kunsthauch.bandcamp.com/album/re ... e-magestic ..... can i know why? well i can listen metal in all its forms, thank you


It was just blacklisted for being way more atmosphere than metal.
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DarkPessimisticSoul
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 1:48 pm 
 

I don't understand why Black Magick SS is blacklisted.

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throne Of Evil
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 2:00 pm 
 

theunrelentingattack wrote:
throne Of Evil wrote:
hi, there is a band that has been blacklisted and i dont know why, the band's name is Auriga from Lebanon, as far as they are an Ambient/atmospheric black metal band, they released there debut album (reflection of the magestic). this is the label they released the album with http://kunsthauch.com/ , and here is there materials http://kunsthauch.bandcamp.com/album/re ... e-magestic ..... can i know why? well i can listen metal in all its forms, thank you


It was just blacklisted for being way more atmosphere than metal.


There are 6 tracks in the album, 3 that are completely ambient and 3 others that are obviously atmospheric black METAL.

I have received an email stating that for the band to be approved on metal archives, it needed more samples or the entire album.
So, here's the entire album: http://kunsthauch.bandcamp.com/album/re ... e-magestic

It cannot be mistaken for anything other than Ambient/Atmospheric Black Metal.


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Fulgurius
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 2:02 pm 
 

DarkPessimisticSoul wrote:
I don't understand why Black Magick SS is blacklisted.

Because it's not metal, obviously.

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DarkPessimisticSoul
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 3:26 pm 
 

Fulgurius wrote:
Because it's not metal, obviously.


I don't think it's obvious at all...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTgMsUDlrgg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCnYml7LYmo

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Fulgurius
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 3:31 pm 
 

DarkPessimisticSoul wrote:
Fulgurius wrote:
Because it's not metal, obviously.


I don't think it's obvious at all...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTgMsUDlrgg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCnYml7LYmo

Do you think we haven't heard the band? It's 60's-70's-styled rock with growling vocals, not even close to metal.

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DarkPessimisticSoul
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 3:46 pm 
 

Fulgurius wrote:
Do you think we haven't heard the band? It's 60's-70's-styled rock with growling vocals, not even close to metal.


Ok, ok... Thanks man

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 8:48 pm 
 

@throne of evil - i listened to the entire record when I rejected it. Tracks 1, 4 and 6 are ambient. Track 2 is half ambient, half black metal. Track 3 is about 3/4 black metal and track 5 is really the only full black metal song. Therefore, they have no release that is predominantly metal. If they release something that is predominantly atmospheric black metal, then we'll accept them but not until that point
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throne Of Evil
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 9:46 pm 
 

theunrelentingattack wrote:
@throne of evil - i listened to the entire record when I rejected it. Tracks 1, 4 and 6 are ambient. Track 2 is half ambient, half black metal. Track 3 is about 3/4 black metal and track 5 is really the only full black metal song. Therefore, they have no release that is predominantly metal. If they release something that is predominantly atmospheric black metal, then we'll accept them but not until that point


@theunrelentingattack
we'll if you are talking in quarters,halves, and 3rd quarter then there are too many bands have to be rejected, it is a matter of band's structures and composing,that is not my point as long as half of the album is mostly ( AMBIENT ATMOSPHERIC Black metal.
for my personal 20 years of listening to this kind of music and comparing it to the rules, well i think there is a little of misunderstanding.thank you

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tzaeru
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 12:44 pm 
 

I'm grabbing a post from like, ages past, but regardless:

Morrigan wrote:
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Could you please tell why Rankelson (UK) is blacklisted?

The logs say "glam / hard rock".


Rankelson might be a part of glam and a part of rock -- just the same as almost all of the 80s hair bands were -- but it's also a 3rd of metal. Pretty much as NWOBHM as they come.

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 12:54 pm 
 

throne Of Evil wrote:
theunrelentingattack wrote:
@throne of evil - i listened to the entire record when I rejected it. Tracks 1, 4 and 6 are ambient. Track 2 is half ambient, half black metal. Track 3 is about 3/4 black metal and track 5 is really the only full black metal song. Therefore, they have no release that is predominantly metal. If they release something that is predominantly atmospheric black metal, then we'll accept them but not until that point


@theunrelentingattack
we'll if you are talking in quarters,halves, and 3rd quarter then there are too many bands have to be rejected, it is a matter of band's structures and composing,that is not my point as long as half of the album is mostly ( AMBIENT ATMOSPHERIC Black metal.
for my personal 20 years of listening to this kind of music and comparing it to the rules, well i think there is a little of misunderstanding.thank you

I checked the album and agree with theunrelentingattack. This is simply more ambient than black metal.
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throne Of Evil
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 3:10 pm 
 

@Azmodes
Then will wait until they release there 2nd album, and by the evidence of the 2nd album will make an approval if this band will be approved or not ? another question, how to add the band another time (when the album is released) if we cant add it ?

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 4:30 pm 
 

Just post about it here and link to the new material.
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