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Restrife
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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 3:27 pm 
 

thanks man.

But i have a question xD... I know they are progressive metal / rock... but i was looking and there are shitload of bands with same genre but less metal sound (imo)


I wanna know what is that this band has (The Last Void) that makes it less metal than the 457 listed bands in the archives (and to be honest some of them shouldn be there imo)

PD. i know is blaclisted and wont get accepted... i just want to know, is it the female singer? does it make the sound less "metaly" or the harsh vocals arent good? i dunno u tell me pls

Please clearify that. Thanks a lot

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 3:34 pm 
 

Their sound is far more alternative based, than metal. Sounds like inspired by Tool.
Famale vocalist does not matter at all.

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promoter
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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 5:17 pm 
 

page about Darkness Wish Angels (Ukraine) was rejected by Encyclopaedia Metallum
Due of lack of information
but all info? photos and a mp3 promotion file
was uploaded on their official website and other profiles
Web site: http://darknesswishangels.eu5.org
Blog: http://darknesswishangels.eu5.org/blog
Myspace: http://www.myspace.com/darknesswishangels
Twitter: http://twitter.com/dwa_ukraine
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Darkness- ... 43?ref=sgm


Darkness Wish Angels (Ukraine) is still unsigned band but working on their first self financed self produced 12 tracks album and a second album in future plans too

So , please , add this info to the metal archives

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Fanfarigoule
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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 5:22 pm 
 

No, please read and understand the first post.

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Restrife
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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 6:46 pm 
 

Witcher wrote:
Their sound is far more alternative based, than metal. Sounds like inspired by Tool.
Famale vocalist does not matter at all.


Oh ye now u said it is true... Thanks a lot man. Still i think it sound more "metalier" than many on the archives... :D

About the female i just brought it up since it clrearly brings more "peace" to the tune... i dunno thats how i feel i dunno if i explain myself.


Thanks witcher.

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lucidreality
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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 9:19 pm 
 

Listening to the band Son of Aurelius right now...sounds like pure technical death metal with little to no hardcore influence or use of breakdowns. How come they aren't in the archives?

http://www.myspace.com/sonofaurelius

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mindrot
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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 10:42 pm 
 

this is my proof of life of my band empire of lies a mexican band

demo cd-r pics
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh26 ... 201790.jpg

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh26 ... 201788.jpg

download the demo
http://www.mediafire.com/?wyf0uijzorz
enjoy it

web site
www.myspace.com/empiregrindcore

i hope with this i can add my band

thanks

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mindrot
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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 12:55 am 
 

this is my proof of life of my band empire of lies a mexican band

demo cd-r pics
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh26 ... 201790.jpg

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh26 ... 201788.jpg

download the demo
http://www.mediafire.com/?wyf0uijzorz
enjoy it

web site
www.myspace.com/empiregrindcore

i hope with this i can add my band

thanks

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 1:54 am 
 

lucidreality wrote:
Listening to the band Son of Aurelius right now...sounds like pure technical death metal with little to no hardcore influence or use of breakdowns. How come they aren't in the archives?

http://www.myspace.com/sonofaurelius

Simply submit them, then.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 1:59 am 
 

mindrot wrote:
this is my proof of life of my band empire of lies a mexican band

demo cd-r pics
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh26 ... 201790.jpg

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh26 ... 201788.jpg

download the demo
http://www.mediafire.com/?wyf0uijzorz
enjoy it

web site
www.myspace.com/empiregrindcore

i hope with this i can add my band

thanks

The problem is, that your band is not predominantly (death) metal, but punk inpired grind with occasional metal riff.
Read, what the guidelines say about grindcore.

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NJustice4all5
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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 10:09 am 
 

www.myspace.com/alexanderbateman

I submitted this artist and it seems to have been rejected. The release is in physical form as well as via iTunes.

As far as the genre goes, I submitted it as Instrumental Progressive Metal. If a band like Animals As Leaders is able to be listed in the Archives, then so should this artist.

Any reason why it was rejected?

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 10:14 am 
 

NJustice4all5 wrote:
www.myspace.com/alexanderbateman

I submitted this artist and it seems to have been rejected. The release is in physical form as well as via iTunes.

As far as the genre goes, I submitted it as Instrumental Progressive Metal. If a band like Animals As Leaders is able to be listed in the Archives, then so should this artist.

Any reason why it was rejected?

Not metal.
Bands are judged individually, so no "if a band x is here, then my submission must be accepted".

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Annihislater
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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 11:33 am 
 

I had the band Cloaca rejected for not being metal.
http://www.myspace.com/cloacamusic

I don't see how they are considered not metal.

could anyone enlighten me?

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 11:41 am 
 

The music belongs much more in the alternative scene, post-hardcore scene.
The songwriting is not metal in any way. They have distorted guitars, but that is all.
They do not belong to any valid metal genre.

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Annihislater
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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 11:49 am 
 

Witcher wrote:
The music belongs much more in the alternative scene, post-hardcore scene.
The songwriting is not metal in any way. They have distorted guitars, but that is all.
They do not belong to any valid metal genre.

fair enough, I get what what your saying, I dissagree slightly, but oh well. Though Metal songwriting? that has to be a pretty ambiguous term if ever I heard one.

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lucidreality
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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 2:53 am 
 

Witcher wrote:
lucidreality wrote:
Listening to the band Son of Aurelius right now...sounds like pure technical death metal with little to no hardcore influence or use of breakdowns. How come they aren't in the archives?

http://www.myspace.com/sonofaurelius

Simply submit them, then.


I tried, and it said they had been previously rejected.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 3:01 am 
 

lucidreality wrote:
Witcher wrote:
lucidreality wrote:
Listening to the band Son of Aurelius right now...sounds like pure technical death metal with little to no hardcore influence or use of breakdowns. How come they aren't in the archives?

http://www.myspace.com/sonofaurelius

Simply submit them, then.


I tried, and it said they had been previously rejected.


Try it now, and yes, it is modern death metal, nothing predominantly core in it.

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kimiwind
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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 4:13 pm 
 

I tried to submitt the finnish band "The Nibiruan", but i found them already in the rejected list. Any idea why they are blacklisted?
They sound progressive death metal.
The debut ep is physical now.
http://www.myspace.com/thenibiruan
Thanks.

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funkenstein
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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 9:22 pm 
 

Tried to submit US sludge metal band Zozobra and they were already rejected.

http://www.myspace.com/zozobra505 should show proof of "metalness".
http://www.bluecollardistro.com/hydrahe ... 35&store=0 is proof of a release.

In addition, Zozobra is a side project of Old Man Gloom bassist Caleb Scofield. Not that it should matter because I think Zozobra is probably metal enough to get an entry on it's own.

Thanks

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 1:10 am 
 

funkenstein wrote:
Tried to submit US sludge metal band Zozobra and they were already rejected.

http://www.myspace.com/zozobra505 should show proof of "metalness".
http://www.bluecollardistro.com/hydrahe ... 35&store=0 is proof of a release.

In addition, Zozobra is a side project of Old Man Gloom bassist Caleb Scofield. Not that it should matter because I think Zozobra is probably metal enough to get an entry on it's own.

Thanks

Not metal and not a side-project with a release on a label with worldwide distribution in stone shops.

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iamntbatman
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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 5:02 am 
 

Well, Hydra Head do have worldwide distribution in stone shops as far as I know, but the band is Caleb's project after the demise of Cave In (Old Man Gloom itself is also a side project). Aaron turner was just a guest in the band, so I don't think they can get in under the side project rule that way, either. Long story short: Zozobra aren't exactly a side project so would have to be shown to be metal enough to get on the site (which I don't think they are).
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kimiwind
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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 11:09 am 
 

kimiwind wrote:
I tried to submitt the finnish band "The Nibiruan", but i found them already in the rejected list. Any idea why they are blacklisted?
They sound progressive death metal.
The debut ep is physical now.
http://www.myspace.com/thenibiruan
Thanks.

So?

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motorsport
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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 11:18 am 
 

Regarding the band Life After Life, which was rejected yesterday, I was able to get a member to send me pictures of the demo with album art, so as to further prove that the demo is indeed a physical release. He also told me that he updated his myspace to include it. If for some reason it's still not enough, if you can tell me what else we can do, that'd be great.

http://i47.tinypic.com/25thoit.jpg
http://i48.tinypic.com/a3yxjo.jpg
http://www.myspace.com/lifeafterlife311

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 11:23 am 
 

kimiwind wrote:
kimiwind wrote:
I tried to submitt the finnish band "The Nibiruan", but i found them already in the rejected list. Any idea why they are blacklisted?
They sound progressive death metal.
The debut ep is physical now.
http://www.myspace.com/thenibiruan
Thanks.

So?

Sounds rather similar to Tool and System of a Down, which I think was the reason for rejection.


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Witcher
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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 11:25 am 
 

motorsport wrote:
Regarding the band Life After Life, which was rejected yesterday, I was able to get a member to send me pictures of the demo with album art, so as to further prove that the demo is indeed a physical release. He also told me that he updated his myspace to include it. If for some reason it's still not enough, if you can tell me what else we can do, that'd be great.

http://i47.tinypic.com/25thoit.jpg
http://i48.tinypic.com/a3yxjo.jpg
http://www.myspace.com/lifeafterlife311


Resubmit.

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kimiwind
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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 11:37 am 
 

Witcher wrote:
kimiwind wrote:
kimiwind wrote:
I tried to submitt the finnish band "The Nibiruan", but i found them already in the rejected list. Any idea why they are blacklisted?
They sound progressive death metal.
The debut ep is physical now.
http://www.myspace.com/thenibiruan
Thanks.

So?

Sounds rather similar to Tool and Sytem of a Down, which I think was the reason for rejection.

Well actually, they got some decent techincal elements and sound somehow as amoral old stuff, but anyways, do you confirm they are predominantly not metal, they will stay blacklisted?


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Witcher
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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 12:18 pm 
 

kimiwind wrote:
Witcher wrote:
kimiwind wrote:
kimiwind wrote:
I tried to submitt the finnish band "The Nibiruan", but i found them already in the rejected list. Any idea why they are blacklisted?
They sound progressive death metal.
The debut ep is physical now.
http://www.myspace.com/thenibiruan
Thanks.

So?

Sounds rather similar to Tool and Sytem of a Down, which I think was the reason for rejection.

Well actually, they got some decent techincal elements and sound somehow as amoral old stuff, but anyways, do you confirm they are not predominantly not metal, they will stay blacklisted?

Yes.

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kimiwind
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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 12:26 pm 
 

Witcher wrote:
kimiwind wrote:
Well actually, they got some decent techincal elements and sound somehow as amoral old stuff, but anyways, do you confirm they are predominantly not metal, they will stay blacklisted?

Yes.

Fair enough, thanks man.

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Thrash_Metal_Fury
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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 3:03 am 
 

I've scanned the cover of the Cremator demo. I uploaded it with the album submission but just to be safe here it is again. Small to conform with the site restrictions for album cover pics. Hope this is enough to confirm we do indeed have a demo available.

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/528/democoverscan.jpg

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Cursarion
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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 3:20 am 
 

Witcher wrote:
kimiwind wrote:
Witcher wrote:
kimiwind wrote:
kimiwind wrote:
I tried to submitt the finnish band "The Nibiruan", but i found them already in the rejected list. Any idea why they are blacklisted?
They sound progressive death metal.
The debut ep is physical now.
http://www.myspace.com/thenibiruan
Thanks.

So?

Sounds rather similar to Tool and Sytem of a Down, which I think was the reason for rejection.

Well actually, they got some decent techincal elements and sound somehow as amoral old stuff, but anyways, do you confirm they are not predominantly not metal, they will stay blacklisted?

Yes.


Hmm... I saw a review of the EP where they were compared to Amoral, Meshuggah and Gojira, all of which are in the Archives.

http://www.imperiumi.net/index.php?act=demos&id=2358 (in Finnish, Google translate kinda sucks, but might give the idea)
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 3:22 am 
 

I have heard them, so nothing will change my decision. If samples are available, reviews will not help you.
Recent Meshuggah are not particularly metal.

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Unorthodox
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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 3:24 am 
 

Witcher wrote:
I have heard them, so nothing will change my decision. If samples are available, reviews will not help you.
Recent Meshuggah are not particularly metal.


I've asked about this before... if Meshuggah's more recent stuff isn't deemed "metal", then why is it labeled as such on its profile here?
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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 3:24 am 
 

Did you really just say that.
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Unorthodox
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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 3:30 am 
 

speedemon86 wrote:
Did you really just say that.


...yeah? I mean, do I really need to elaborate any more? In Flames was a melodic death metal band earlier, but not really metal anymore. Thus, the genre states that they were melodic death metal, and now are Alt rock/metal. If Witcher and the rest of the mods think that Meshuggah isn't metal anymore, then at least state it on their page like they've done with other bands..
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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 3:35 am 
 

I was replying to Witcher.
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Unorthodox
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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 3:37 am 
 

speedemon86 wrote:
I was replying to Witcher.


Ok then my apologies.
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motorsport
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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 7:44 am 
 

Witcher wrote:
motorsport wrote:
Regarding the band Life After Life, which was rejected yesterday, I was able to get a member to send me pictures of the demo with album art, so as to further prove that the demo is indeed a physical release. He also told me that he updated his myspace to include it. If for some reason it's still not enough, if you can tell me what else we can do, that'd be great.

http://i47.tinypic.com/25thoit.jpg
http://i48.tinypic.com/a3yxjo.jpg
http://www.myspace.com/lifeafterlife311


Resubmit.


Resubmitted; got the exact same rejection message.

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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 8:02 am 
 

Did you include all the links in the submission? Also the one to the forum post? There are more than one mod running the queue you know.
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motorsport
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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 5:24 pm 
 

I linked to the myspace, and when I added the demo, I used a picture that was sent to me by the band member. Though I never thought to link to this thread. silly me.

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Kelkum
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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 3:20 am 
 

I recently tried to submit a band called RazoR which is my side-project, and was rejected because it was deemed "Not Metal enough." First, I have only released ONE demo, and it's just an ambient metal song. There is guitar in it, if you actually listen to it. Second, I'm currently still in Kelkum, and when I tried to submit RazoR, I still named the genre "Ambient Black Metal" which means, IN THE NEAR FUTURE, I WILL RELEASE AN ENTIRE METAL DEMO/EP WITH RAZOR!
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