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kelchenu
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2014 9:00 am 
 

shoud Fleshworld be blacklisted after debut album? isis and cult of luna are on MA

streaming: https://fleshworldpl.bandcamp.com/

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PARASITICTIM
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2014 1:08 pm 
 

Objecting to the rejection of the NIGHTFELL submission. The cd is already available from SOUTHERN LORD.
check here
http://www.southernlord.com/store

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2014 1:42 pm 
 

PARASITICTIM wrote:
Objecting to the rejection of the NIGHTFELL submission. The cd is already available from SOUTHERN LORD.
check here
http://www.southernlord.com/store

My bad. Restored. Please use proper capitalisation in the future, though. EVERYTHING IN CAPS is not acceptable, not even for the name or genre.

@Fleshworld: Second part of this post: viewtopic.php?p=2380126#p2380126 Also: viewtopic.php?p=2368446#p2368446
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analog_winter
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2014 5:02 pm 
 

My submission of the band Mongrel (USA) was rejected, and the reason given was "Removed from label?" What excatly was meant by that? I provided sound samples (https://soundcloud.com/house-of-first-light/) as well as a link to buy it from the Fallen Empire store. However, it seems as though it's sold out from Fallen Empire, but it's still available from Psychic Violence records here: http://psychicviolence.bigcartel.com/pr ... rel-demo-i

Would this be enough to allow me to resubmit? Thanks.
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2014 12:17 pm 
 

It's marked as sold out on Psychic Violence as well. That quickly? When was it first released? Do you know the limitation?
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2014 2:01 pm 
 

Hello, I've brought up Captain Three Leg before but never got a answer, I think they should be removed from the blacklist, sure they have changed their style of playing from Noisecore, Grindcore, Goregrind, Crust Punk, Powerviolence, Space Rock, Blues Rock... but they also have released albums that are full of Brutal Death Metal, Sludge/Stoner/Doom riffs. I haven't finished listening to everything they have released but have listened to more then 2-3 albums that should deem them acceptable.

These are full of metal riffs with experimentation and the longer albums get a bit noisey past the 50-75 track mark but that is more then half the album that has metal riffs.
http://captainthreeleg.bandcamp.com/alb ... t-c3l-tape

http://captainthreeleg.bandcamp.com/alb ... to-conquer

http://captainthreeleg.bandcamp.com/alb ... ered-limbs

http://captainthreeleg.bandcamp.com/alb ... o-marinero

http://captainthreeleg.bandcamp.com/album/reunion

http://captainthreeleg.bandcamp.com/alb ... e-shitpile

http://captainthreeleg.bandcamp.com/album/all-fours

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analog_winter
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2014 3:26 pm 
 

Azmodes wrote:
It's marked as sold out on Psychic Violence as well. That quickly? When was it first released? Do you know the limitation?


I don't know exactly when it was first released, though I believe it was in 2014, because Fallen Empire made a post about getting in the new House of First Light tapes earlier this year before stocking them. On my copy it says it is limited to 100. Here are pictures of it: http://imgur.com/a/bvzey
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Okay, restored.
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2014 1:13 pm 
 

Awesome, thanks!
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thrashmaniac87
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2014 7:13 pm 
 

In regards to Nuclear Death Terror is this not metal enough?

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2014 6:36 am 
 

Nope, that's still predominantly punk to my ears (albeit seemingly chunkier and more metallic than the rest, but it's still just one EP among a sizeable discography). I've been going through their entire discography before deleting them, believe me.
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Weltering_in_Blood
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2014 2:41 pm 
 

Wondering why the band Tsalal was rejected. This was the reason given:

"Not a metal band; does not belong on Encyclopaedia Metallum. Please read (or re-read) our rules next time to see what qualifies as metal."

It's an obscure chaotic black/death metal project released on Serpents Head Reprisal, the label run by Haasiophis of Antediluvian.

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Azmodes
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That sample here is almost pure noise.
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alitivity
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I was recently rejected for my solo band, for not being Metal, However Based on my album release on March 10th 2014 Al Diamond Phillips & Bryan L Johnson Sessions, only 3 songs actually venture off the Metal line. !0 of the 13 songs are Metal. Here is a link with samples to confirm. http://www.reverbnation.com/store/view_ ... id=1962419

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monarkh
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2014 10:14 am 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/San ... 3540379491

My submission was rejected 3 times.

First because it was submitted before the release date. Fine.
Second because there was no proof of it being metal, even though the moderator has not looked at the link I provided that included pictures of the physical release AND a link to a sample track that was clearly Black Metal. All this once it was officially released. Back in the queue.

Now I just noticed it has been rejected another time, because meanwhile someone else made a profil for my band, with a lot of missing information. And it has been approved?!!!

Seriously, it is disappointing that you dismissed my profile with all the accurate information and put another one online instead. Now I guess all I have to do is submit the good infos AGAIN in the queue to this other approved profil, that's it?...

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Azmodes
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alitivity wrote:
I was recently rejected for my solo band, for not being Metal, However Based on my album release on March 10th 2014 Al Diamond Phillips & Bryan L Johnson Sessions, only 3 songs actually venture off the Metal line. !0 of the 13 songs are Metal. Here is a link with samples to confirm. http://www.reverbnation.com/store/view_ ... id=1962419

It could be that these snippets are misleading, but I'm hearing heavy hard rock. A few tracks sound somewhat metallic, but this is predominantly rock.
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2014 10:26 am 
 

monarkh, I apologise for overlooking the sample when I rejected it a second time. I probably missed those inconspicuous links on the label page, especially since you just resubmitted without any changes after the second time. Please always be explicit about the included evidence, a short note to the effect of "check samples here:" would have been sufficient. I remember there was also doubt as to whether the band is acceptable, because there's one black metal and one ambient track. Both submissions lingered a bit in the queue because of that. Another moderator later approved the other draft which had been submitted for the first time a few days before your resubmission (it had all the required evidence in the submission notes).

Sorry for the inconvenience. Feel free to update the existing profile and/or make a report for any updates/mistakes you cannot do yourself.
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alitivity
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2014 10:41 am 
 

Azmodes wrote:
alitivity wrote:
I was recently rejected for my solo band, for not being Metal, However Based on my album release on March 10th 2014 Al Diamond Phillips & Bryan L Johnson Sessions, only 3 songs actually venture off the Metal line. !0 of the 13 songs are Metal. Here is a link with samples to confirm. http://www.reverbnation.com/store/view_ ... id=1962419

It could be that these snippets are misleading, but I'm hearing heavy hard rock. A few tracks sound somewhat metallic, but this is predominantly rock.



Here are some direct links to songs on the album
Its a collection of the Recording sessions I did with the now deceased Bryan L Johnson, and covers 3 different projects, two more Metal in Nature, and one not so metal, which accounts for the few songs that are not so heavy.
Opser King is the first featured project, which is the one thats not as hard, but does have the song Lord I know that walks the Metal line,

Broken Down Tomorrow, was a more commercial metal style, with the songs Broken, Down, Tomorrow, and Today all heavy melodic riff based Metal

The third and final project on the album, was the Metal Opera Curse of the Pharaoh, which is a theatrical sung dialoge metal based concept. again here are a few links to directly show the metal influence.


http://www.reverbnation.com/aldiamondph ... 04675-down from The Broken Down Tomorrow sessions

http://www.reverbnation.com/aldiamondph ... he-pharaoh Opening scene from the Metal Opera Curse of the Pharaoh

http://www.reverbnation.com/aldiamondph ... ord-i-know, even after writing a few southern rock type songs, Osper King started to get a little heavier.

Hope this will change your mind, if not, Cant say I didnt try

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monarkh
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2014 4:24 pm 
 

Azmodes wrote:
monarkh, I apologise for overlooking the sample when I rejected it a second time. I probably missed those inconspicuous links on the label page, especially since you just resubmitted without any changes after the second time. Please always be explicit about the included evidence, a short note to the effect of "check samples here:" would have been sufficient. I remember there was also doubt as to whether the band is acceptable, because there's one black metal and one ambient track. Both submissions lingered a bit in the queue because of that. Another moderator later approved the other draft which had been submitted for the first time a few days before your resubmission (it had all the required evidence in the submission notes).

Sorry for the inconvenience. Feel free to update the existing profile and/or make a report for any updates/mistakes you cannot do yourself.


Apologies accepted. I will be as specific as it is humanly possible to be when I'll add/update another band. Meanwhile, I have sent the modifications to the existing profile. Thanks!

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I adjusted the existing profile for Sanctuare to read like the rejected one. All set.
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monarkh
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2014 7:16 am 
 

theunrelentingattack wrote:
I adjusted the existing profile for Sanctuare to read like the rejected one. All set.


Thank you!!

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2014 8:07 am 
 

alitivity wrote:
Here are some direct links to songs on the album
Its a collection of the Recording sessions I did with the now deceased Bryan L Johnson, and covers 3 different projects, two more Metal in Nature, and one not so metal, which accounts for the few songs that are not so heavy.
Opser King is the first featured project, which is the one thats not as hard, but does have the song Lord I know that walks the Metal line,

Broken Down Tomorrow, was a more commercial metal style, with the songs Broken, Down, Tomorrow, and Today all heavy melodic riff based Metal

The third and final project on the album, was the Metal Opera Curse of the Pharaoh, which is a theatrical sung dialoge metal based concept. again here are a few links to directly show the metal influence.


http://www.reverbnation.com/aldiamondph ... 04675-down from The Broken Down Tomorrow sessions

http://www.reverbnation.com/aldiamondph ... he-pharaoh Opening scene from the Metal Opera Curse of the Pharaoh

http://www.reverbnation.com/aldiamondph ... ord-i-know, even after writing a few southern rock type songs, Osper King started to get a little heavier.

Hope this will change your mind, if not, Cant say I didnt try

The songs you describe as metal are mostly just rock with some heavier riffs. Considering the rest is obvious hard rock, this does not appear to be a project focused on heavy metal. Sorry.
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alitivity
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2014 10:57 am 
 

Azmodes wrote:
alitivity wrote:
Here are some direct links to songs on the album
Its a collection of the Recording sessions I did with the now deceased Bryan L Johnson, and covers 3 different projects, two more Metal in Nature, and one not so metal, which accounts for the few songs that are not so heavy.
Opser King is the first featured project, which is the one thats not as hard, but does have the song Lord I know that walks the Metal line,

Broken Down Tomorrow, was a more commercial metal style, with the songs Broken, Down, Tomorrow, and Today all heavy melodic riff based Metal

The third and final project on the album, was the Metal Opera Curse of the Pharaoh, which is a theatrical sung dialoge metal based concept. again here are a few links to directly show the metal influence.


http://www.reverbnation.com/aldiamondph ... 04675-down from The Broken Down Tomorrow sessions

http://www.reverbnation.com/aldiamondph ... he-pharaoh Opening scene from the Metal Opera Curse of the Pharaoh

http://www.reverbnation.com/aldiamondph ... ord-i-know, even after writing a few southern rock type songs, Osper King started to get a little heavier.

Hope this will change your mind, if not, Cant say I didnt try

The songs you describe as metal are mostly just rock with some heavier riffs. Considering the rest is obvious hard rock, this does not appear to be a project focused on heavy metal. Sorry.


Okay, I guess it all comes down to the definition of Metal, what would have been considered Metal at one point is now just Hard Rock, or even Rock, which is still not an insult or anything. However, Since I do take my status as a Metal Vocalist seriously, I will just hit the studio and write a much Heavier Release, and hope that it too doesnt become just plain ole Rock by the time I finish lol. Either way, Horns up to you and the Encyclaedia Metalum for keeping it real and giving me another good reason to hit the Studio \m/\m/

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Vautour
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2014 3:03 pm 
 

Serpents were blacklisted a while ago for not being metal enough, but now they have a new album that uses a lot more black-metal inspired riffing and guitar solos, plus some traces of symphonic black / death metal. Any chance that they might be un-blacklisted because of Pestilence?

Available for streaming here: http://trvemedia.bandcamp.com/album/pestilence

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2014 4:06 pm 
 

Vautour wrote:
Serpents were blacklisted a while ago for not being metal enough, but now they have a new album that uses a lot more black-metal inspired riffing and guitar solos, plus some traces of symphonic black / death metal. Any chance that they might be un-blacklisted because of Pestilence?

Available for streaming here: http://trvemedia.bandcamp.com/album/pestilence

Yeah, I'd be inclined to take them based on this. *turns to BH, Zodi, etc...* Guys?
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Has any moderator had a chance to check out the albums I linked from Captain Three Leg?

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There's a list with all reject bands?
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RazorDick wrote:
Has any moderator had a chance to check out the albums I linked from Captain Three Leg?

I'll try to check them out later today.

MasterOfSin wrote:
There's a list with all reject bands?

There is a list with all blacklisted bands (which isn't necessarily the same), but it's not public.
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MasterOfSin wrote:
There's a list with all reject bands?

There is a list with all blacklisted bands (which isn't necessarily the same), but it's not public.[/quote]


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Azmodes wrote:
Vautour wrote:
Serpents were blacklisted a while ago for not being metal enough, but now they have a new album that uses a lot more black-metal inspired riffing and guitar solos, plus some traces of symphonic black / death metal. Any chance that they might be un-blacklisted because of Pestilence?

Available for streaming here: http://trvemedia.bandcamp.com/album/pestilence

Yeah, I'd be inclined to take them based on this. *turns to BH, Zodi, etc...* Guys?


I'll be "etc..." - I'm okay with this too.
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Part of me feels like I helped decide the band was unacceptable last time, but RIIIIIGHT on the edge. I can't listen at work but if it's even the tiniest bit more metallic than the band I remember, I'm sure it's probably good.
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Yeah, from what I remember from the debut, this new album is noticeably more metallic. Removed from da blacklist, Vautour.

RazorDick, I've checked some of the Captain Three Leg albums you linked earlier... if those are anything to go by, this seems much more like a noise/grind/punk band experimenting with a lot of different styles. Not a metal band, first and foremost.
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Hey there,

this is Enzo Ferrara writing. Since a specific band was blacklisted, the reason for which I cannot understand, I just went through the guidelines again, to check, whether something had changed. This band I am talking about has definitely a physical release which was shipped internationally, as well as a digital release... If required, I can show some proof for this... I would love to see this band here, too...

So, I would really appreciate if someone got me some contact information in order to get this thing going...

Thank you in advance,

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It would help if you told us the name of the band. :)
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Well the band's name is SYNCROMIND PROJECT. A German instrumental progressive metal band. They released their album "Syncronized" in 2012, as mp3 download and later on as a limited edition CD... you can go and check out the website: www.syncromind-project.com

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vifer1975 wrote:
Well the band's name is SYNCROMIND PROJECT. A German instrumental progressive metal band. They released their album "Syncronized" in 2012, as mp3 download and later on as a limited edition CD... you can go and check out the website: http://www.syncromind-project.com

Thank you in advance

Enzo

Blacklisted in September 2012 for being a Rock band, not a Metal band. Have they released anything fully, unambiguously metallic since?
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It's all about personal taste... what is metal what not... but thanks for checking the reason why. You can check their release. Already the opener Silver Bug is more metal than rock... well... anyway... that is a pitty :-(

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vifer1975 wrote:
It's all about personal taste... what is metal what not... but thanks for checking the reason why. You can check their release. Already the opener Silver Bug is more metal than rock... well... anyway... that is a pitty :-(
Is this album an unabmiguously metallic one? That was my question.
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Of course, it is. That is metal! Hope I could answer your question!

Thank you very much.

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Somewhere between metal and rock, not sure. Might be acceptable, but I wouldn't call it unambiguous.
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