We blacklist bands like these because we get an endless stream of idiots who don't read our rules and try to submit the band when the album isn't even out it. They will be white-listed when the album is out on the 30th.

Edit: seems like it is out on the 26th on Denmark. Whitelisted, anyways.

This songs are not metal too?
https://violetcoldofficial.bandcamp.com ... oid-single
https://violetcoldofficial.bandcamp.com ... ear-single
https://violetcoldofficial.bandcamp.com ... ean-single

Wouldn't matter if they are. Those are just digital singles, wouldn't count toward inclusion on their own.

Seems fine. Go ahead and resubmit. Just to make sure could you also put a picture of the CD next to the case in the submission notes?

Will do, thanks.

Hi! I tried to add Scarlet Stories to Metal Archives, but I got a note it was blacklisted. I guess someone else tried to add the band when they didn't have their album out. But now they have. If there is anything else that doesn't fit the rules I would like to know.
It is a band that started acoustic, but now is a full line-up atmospheric progressive metal band.

Thanks!

Scarlet Stories was rejected just a few weeks ago for being predominantly progressive rock. There are bits of metal here and there but not enough for the band to be accepted at this time. I wasn't the one who rejected the band but I agree with the decision. Just listened to the new release.

Why Submit to Suffering (US) is blacklisted?

https://www.facebook.com/Samhainblackmetal

Is this Samhain from Us blacklisted? why?

More hardcore than metal.


No, it's the Danzig band. Temporarily whitelisted.

Hey Metantoine,

Thanks for the reply. I actually figured I'd get a response like this, and I appreciate the explanation. To be honest, I grew up with Tool in the '90s, so it may be a personal bias of mine in highlighting their metal elements over their more prog rock/alternative features.

Now, I fully recognize the distinctions, but with Rush being featured on this site, I was surprised not to see a band like Tool. Regardless, it's a great site with a lot of awesome bands.

TAO

Why is Sullen (Portugal) blacklisted? Album has been released 4 months ago. Genre is prog death/prog rock a la Opeth

Blacklisted by Azmodes in March this year for being "predominantly modern prog rock/djent".

I was curious as to why the band Strong Intention was blacklisted ? I couldn't find anything via the search . Multiple releases out on
Crucial blast
Six weeks
Coalition
Power it up
Give praise
PATAC
Relapse ( this comp kills ...#2)

Powerviolence/thrashcore.

Hi.
Why was Eden (Russia) blacklisted?
They play Symphonic Gothic Metal, have a signed contract with label Sound Age Productions and provide all the links suitable for your rules.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/EDEN-Dee ... 0810384200
https://music.yandex.ru/album/2529131
https://itunes.apple.com/album/memories/id954784961
What's wrong with them?

They were blacklisted for being Goth Rock, cursory listen agrees with the blacklist.

HaatE is apparently blacklisted, but their latest release I think is predominantly black metal/ambient.

https://haate.bandcamp.com/album/breed- ... rn-majesty

well, maybe some time ago they played gothic rock, now you can listen to their last album (I've provided links earlier) and (I hope) find Gothic metal in this music.

Sorry mate, listening to it now, more Gothic Rock than Goth Metal.



Nope, Predominantly Ambient. Blacklist stays

Nonsense. It is not less heavy than, say, Leaves' Eyes or Savn.
They present their music as Symphonic gothic metal, so does the label:
http://eng.soundage.org/releases.php?releases=271
But all of them dim and fade 'cause the man named PDS has an other opinion....
The sad news I've understood here is that trying to make moderators change their mind has the same effect as talking with a wall

I can present my band as Death Metal, the label can call it death metal, but if sounds like deathcore - it's deathcore.

If the band wants to make their own metal encyclopedia, and call themselves Gothic metal go ahead. If you are going to bitch and moan, then just shove off. End of story.

That Eden album sounds very borderline, though my initial reaction would actually be to say they're acceptable. Quite soft/rockish, though. We'd need at least a third mod to comment.


Correct me if I'm misunderstanding you here, but it's not this site's job to promote bands and save them from obscurity. This aspect is absolutely irrelevant here.


Yeah, clearly no decision ever got overturned in this thread. Also, although it's tempting to assume, a difference of opinion does not mean that we're stubborn curmudgeons.

Goddamit Azmo, now my late night angriness was all for naught! At least I get to be called a stubborn curmudgeon, someone my age just appreciates it and makes me dream of the coming future in the late century.

For what it is worth, we might want to get the guy who originally blacklisted them (Zodi) to have a second look. I was underplaying his blacklist note.

I actually just dug up the moderator notes from the rejected draft (from February 2015, Memories was considered). Looks like Zodijackyl and TheStormIRide both agreed that it's more rock than metal. So I guess that's settled.

So,Underoath was accepted just because of their debut,right?So did Pyogenesis,because they are in no way metal now.And Disturbed was even accepted (as Brawl) for their early material.My question is:why can't Slipknot be here because of Mate Feed Kill Repeat (or even All Hope Is Gone,which sounds metal enough,to me)?Or,even,be accepted as Meld (their old name,they recorded early funk-ish demo with that name)?

Blacklist cites nu metal overall. As far as MFKR is concerned, it is... interesting but more of a hodgepodge of ideas and not predominantly metal.

Well, did you check the Underoath entry, WindMillSaw? It says that they're included based on their first two albums right there. I'm not familiar with Pyogenesis, but safe to say it's their earlier period as well, as can be seen in the genre field.

@Brawl: I'm actually looking into that one right now, not sure about that "demo". But if the release is valid and the music is metal, that's fine. It does however not apply to anything under the Disturbed name (see last paragraph).

@Slipknot: I'm sure you'll find tons of posts and explanations for them in this thread if you use the search function. In a nutshell, I'm not up to date with their discography, but my understanding is that it's predominantly rock. (Diamhea, I think nu-metal not longer applies for them, but not sure)

@Meld: Well, this demo you speak of, can you provide evidence that it's metal and that it was publicly released?

I get the feeling that you don't quite understand how band pages work on this site. In order for a band to be included, it only requires one metal release (preferably a full-length, or lengthy EP/demo), everything else does not concern us and we document a band's later (or earlier) non-metal career just the same. That also brings us to how we deal with name changes. Slipknot would not gain entry based on an earlier name's release, only that specific incarnation under that name would. Each new page is held to the same standards. Disturbed is not listed, only an earlier name (Brawl) is, because (I assume) their sound was more genuinely metallic back then. This may not always seem intuitive, but it's a reasonable, systematic approach to keep things clear and smooth and have a way of managing multiple incarnations of a band without descending into chaos and confusion.

Recently had a band (Swallow The Dog) rejected due to no physical proof of CD, so here's that proof:

https://www.facebook.com/SwallowTheDog/photos/pb.459828014080435.-2207520000.1435505169./691097137620187/?type=3&theater

Go ahead and resubmit.

Just adding my two cents, I think they're more some odd form of rock now, or at least their last (disappointing) album is. Not sure what All Hope Is Gone works out as since they throw so much into the album that it's hard to say what it'd be. My guess is it'd still not be enough to get them anywhere near off the blacklist.

Your intentions are good and all, but please try to keep yourself from chiming in in this thread on matters you're not bringing up yourself. It's nothing personal, it's just easy to get confused when regular users are talking on the same level as mods.

And no Slipknot has been discussed to death and were never considered metal by this site's definition. All Hope is Gone had a track or two that were close but nowhere near enough to make it a definitively metal album.

Terminate from germany was rejected because is in pre-order. but there are info they release that album two years ago (18/10/2013), i suppose.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... 9190376217

http://mybandstore.de/product_info.php? ... no_boost=1

Resubmit.

Why is Judgement Day (USA) blacklisted?

Avantgarde/cello rock with occasional metal elements.

viewtopic.php?p=2130085#p2130085
viewtopic.php?p=2141810#p2141810
viewtopic.php?p=2157882#p2157882

Wondering why Domestic Terror (US) was blacklisted. The music is sort of hardcore-influenced, but it's mostly just slammy brutal death metal. They do have a physical release.

Here's their bandcamp: https://domesticterror.bandcamp.com/album/war-crimes

They have a noisegrind full-length and a hardcore/metal hybrid EP, so we decided to wait for another, clearly metal release at the very least.

Oh, wow. We must be talking about two completely different bands, then. (Why is "Judgement Day" such a popular name anyway? It's not even spelled correctly!)

I'm talking about this band: http://skyburnsblackd.bandcamp.com/album/judgement-day

It apparently used to be available for sale on Metal Helm, First Paradox, and Nordic Mission: http://mauce.nl/site/judgement-day-demo/