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Unity
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 11:55 am 
 

I've always heard that he was the leader of a satanic cult. So why is he saying these things? *points down*

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Rasha_yad
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 12:10 pm 
 

Is this what people mean when they say "shitpost"?

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Unity
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 12:15 pm 
 

It seems I might have been misunderstood. I am not complaining about what he says in the video. I'm just confused because I've always thought of him as anti-christian, that's all.
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John_Sunlight
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 12:44 pm 
 

He's whatever your heart wants him to be. Nobody really cares what Manson was all about, it's the evil hippy image that we all fell in love with.
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brainbomb
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 12:50 pm 
 

you're questioning the viewpoint consistency of this guy?

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Unity
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 12:58 pm 
 

Haha, that was hilarious! ;) I guess that vídeo says it all, doesn't it?
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SatanicPotato
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 1:16 pm 
 

he actually is a interesting person imo, just not the most sane person but that is what makes him interesting

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brainbomb
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 1:31 pm 
 

Unity wrote:
Haha, that was hilarious! ;) I guess that vídeo says it all, doesn't it?

it's a pretty great answer.

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Unity
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 1:39 pm 
 

What I meant was that that video clearly shows that Manson shouldn't be taken serioulsy. :)
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brainbomb
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 1:58 pm 
 

oh I'm with ya! But I still thought his response was weirdly apt as well.

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mjollnir
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:52 pm 
 

Unity wrote:
I've always heard that he was the leader of a satanic cult. So why is he saying these things? *points down*

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The "Family" was never dubbed Satanists. On the contrary, Manson once told people he was the second coming of Jesus...among other things. lol
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Nahsil
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:30 pm 
 

*cough*

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NuclearCreation91
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 4:48 pm 
 

Manson's music is eerily easy to listen to.

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circleofdestruction
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 9:22 pm 
 

Unity wrote:
It seems I might have been misunderstood. I am not complaining about what he says in the video. I'm just confused because I've always thought of him as anti-christian, that's all.

Where'd you get the anti-Christian idea from? My guess is that you just went by all the goofy quasi-satanic merchandise sold in Spencer Gifts or whatever that lumps him in with other people like Richard Ramirez, and CM wasn't, he was a fucking hippie into free love and drugs, and a failed singer-songwriter. He said wacky shit like he was Jesus, but this is supposedly while on lots of LSD during orgies.

He liked to say wacky shit in interviews, too, but it probably goes back to wishing he was like the Beach Boys or the Beatles: they were famous and people paid attention to them. So when all the cameras were on him in '69 or '70 all the time, he really loved it. And the interviews since then, he probably really loved the attention there, too. He did say things to be creepy and shocking, but the son of a bitch was like 5 feet tall and 78 pounds, he could never have intimidated people physically so he played the "crazy" card, IMO. Not that he isn't a bit fucked in the head, but I also think he plays it up for the cameras. I don't think he's likely any crazier than the women who did the murders, and if you watch interviews with them, they seem perfectly "normal." People in groups do things people don't do alone, and that includes murder.

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Manson's music is eerily easy to listen to.

Some of it's quite funny, like the Garbage Dump song. There is a documentary on Hulu I watched the other night out of boredom, they interview people from the Beach Boys and also Neil Young (I guess NY really dug Manson at the time!).
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volutetheswarth
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 10:18 pm 
 

The sooner people stop talking about this psychotic loser the better.

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circleofdestruction
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 1:11 am 
 

Disagree. I think people and events (such as the Tate/Labianca murders) are worthy of study, and talking about these things can educate people on the subjects of cults, etc.
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brainbomb
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 9:04 am 
 

do you by chance remember what that doc was called?

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Unity
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:25 am 
 

circleofdestruction wrote:
Unity wrote:
It seems I might have been misunderstood. I am not complaining about what he says in the video. I'm just confused because I've always thought of him as anti-christian, that's all.

Where'd you get the anti-Christian idea from? My guess is that you just went by all the goofy quasi-satanic merchandise sold in Spencer Gifts or whatever that lumps him in with other people like Richard Ramirez, and CM wasn't, he was a fucking hippie into free love and drugs, and a failed singer-songwriter. He said wacky shit like he was Jesus, but this is supposedly while on lots of LSD during orgies.



I heard that his "family" called themselves "Slaves Of Satan"... *shrugs*
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PhilosophicalFrog
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:33 am 
 

y'all gotta listen to Last Podcast on the Left? they have easily, the best rundown of this guy. i'm not gonna say he's a nice guy, but he was super fucked since birth. his mom tried to sell him, he got raped repeatedly in boarding school, and when he got out, he just wanted to spread love (literally) by starting a sex cult. the real problem is the people who he recruited. i genuinely believe if they hadn't started killing, he wouldn't have killed at all. The "Slaves of Satan" thing was a slaves of pleasure reference, like the Satanic Church and all that.

fun fact, even Manson thought scientology was wonky, and left the church.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 12:39 pm 
 

Only in the United States, could a failure in life, who dropped out of school become a cult leader. Even to this day he gets a tattoo on his forehead, rambles incoherently and thousands worship him.
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battle_axes
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 2:31 pm 
 

Does anybody know if the environmental organization ATWA (Air Trees Water Animals) has any official connection to Charles Manson, or if it's just using his name/ideas? It talks about something called The Savior, which is some kind of device supposedly invented by Manson that is supposed to help restore plant life in barren areas, or something silly like that.

http://www.atwaearth.com/the-savior.html


At the very least, it's an amusing website to browse.

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Scorntyrant
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 10:47 pm 
 

an awful lot of the "Satanic" perception about Manson can be laid squarely at the door of Boyd Rice, Nicholas Shrek and Michael Moynihan. There was a lot of interest in Manson from the right-wing of the Church of Satan in the 80s which filtered through into the mainstream.
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circleofdestruction
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 8:18 pm 
 

brainbomb wrote:
do you by chance remember what that doc was called?

I think it was just called "manson family" or something. It looked like it was part of a series (probably on other people, too) but that was the only "episode" listed.

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Only in the United States, could a failure in life, who dropped out of school become a cult leader. Even to this day he gets a tattoo on his forehead, rambles incoherently and thousands worship him.

I doubt it's something that only happens in the US. If anything, I'd blame it more on people's willingness to believe in nonsense and belong to groups. If people weren't so gullible, cult leaders would have no followers.
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acid_bukkake
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 2:47 pm 
 

Haunted Shirt wrote:
Only in the United States, could a failure in life, who dropped out of school become a cult leader.

Shoko Asahara makes Manson look like a little bitch. We also have a hotbed of cult leadership in the Middle East and throughout third world nations.
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PhilosophicalFrog
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 2:59 pm 
 

AWW yeah. there's a last podcast on the left about those guys too.
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acid_bukkake
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 3:33 pm 
 

That's how I found out about them. LPOTL is incredible for stuff like this, even if the most recent ep (Chris Benoit) was meh. I knew about the Tokyo subway gas attack but not about the cult behind it.
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LordFashHeart
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:01 pm 
 

I need to listen to more Blood Axis, I love music that's both haunting and sort of soothing.

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brainbomb
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:15 am 
 

a lot of it is corny as fuck

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droneriot
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:30 am 
 

Only really need the debut before they started to try to play neofolk and drowned in cheese. The live album and compilation have a few good songs each, the second full-length is pretty crap from start to finish (with the exception of "The Vortex"), only the debut is essential.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 2:18 pm 
 

I like that live album because it sorta acts as a greatest hits. Gospel is cool though, yeah.

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