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Charlo
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 4:35 pm 
 

Hello fellow metal enthusiasts!

I just launched a new website called guessthatalbum.com and I feel like the knowledgeable fans here would like to take part. The concept is simple: draw your favorite album art, redact the name of the band and the name of the album, and have other people guess what it is [sample by yours truly]. This is a riff on the common "MS Paint Album Covers Game" thread that appears repeatedly in music-related forums, although it only got played here once as far as I can tell, and it didn't gain much traction.

At the moment there are just a few metal albums present; the goal is to have a broad range of musical styles represented so that everybody is able to take part. So if you have a favorite jazz or punk album that needs a crudely-drawn rendition, those are welcome as well.

This site is only a day old, so there might still be bugs. Please let me know if you find one.

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Morrigan
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 4:51 pm 
 

Cool idea, but your example is way too easy? Or is that the idea (to have a very easy example to start with)?
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Charlo
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 5:03 pm 
 

Morrigan wrote:
Cool idea, but your example is way too easy? Or is that the idea (to have a very easy example to start with)?

It's easy for you and hopefully everybody else here. However, a non-metal fan might not even know about that band, or only know about it very faintly. A more obscure example (not drawn by myself) would be something like this.

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Foulchrist
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 5:25 pm 
 

This is definitely an awesome idea. I've always wondered why the thread we had here never became a first page immortal. Such a fun way to kill some time.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:25 pm 
 

Charlo wrote:
Thanks for not banning me!

LOL

Cool website. That thread from a while ago was pretty sweet.

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the_raytownian
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 9:17 pm 
 

My interest was piqued when I clicked and saw that drawing of a Current 93 album, but I couldn't be arsed to sign up just to submit an answer, to be honest.
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CF_Mono
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:34 am 
 

They used to do this on /mu/ did they not? I guess it's a good idea for a website though.
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Machine_Dead
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:32 am 
 

hehe, I really like the idea,

but.....

I'm actually horrible at drawing with a mouse, but I gave it a go aswell :p

http://www.guessthatalbum.com/albums/view/170

http://www.guessthatalbum.com/albums/view/169

Guess the artwork and win a cookie
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:53 am 
 

Way to pick two of the most easily recognizable and widely know album covers in death metal. :-P
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:34 am 
 

This cover is driving me insane. I can't for the life of me figure out what it is, and yet it constantly feels like I'm on the cusp of remembering it. pls halp
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:39 am 
 

well, does the clue epic doom metal help at all?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:43 am 
 

May I perhaps make a suggestion towards the scoring system of the site?

I think it would be a good idea to, rather than giving people points for drawing an album cover, give some monthly amount of points based on the percentage of the guesses submitted to that album that were correct in that month. That way, people would be incentivised to draw well, and punished for accidentally terrible drawings.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:33 pm 
 

J_Ason wrote:
This cover is driving me insane. I can't for the life of me figure out what it is, and yet it constantly feels like I'm on the cusp of remembering it. pls halp

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Well no, but at least the resemblance in style is uncanny. Click the picture for the actual answer (which everyone you should already know by now, jesus).

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:41 pm 
 

J_Ason wrote:
This cover is driving me insane. I can't for the life of me figure out what it is, and yet it constantly feels like I'm on the cusp of remembering it. pls halp


This is the first time I've ever felt cleverer in any regard to anybody on this site. Thank you sir...
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Charlo
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:06 pm 
 

kingnuuuur wrote:
J_Ason wrote:
This cover is driving me insane. I can't for the life of me figure out what it is, and yet it constantly feels like I'm on the cusp of remembering it. pls halp

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Well no, but at least the resemblance in style is uncanny. Click the picture for the actual answer (which everyone you should already know by now, jesus).


I'd prefer if people didn't post answers here. Not saying you or anybody else is trying to cheat, since I don't know if either of you is actually a member, but the integrity of my website must be maintained AT ALL COSTS! (Hints like PhilosophicalFrog's are fine)

Thanks for showing interest, though! :)

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Amber Gray
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 12:20 am 
 

Joined and am digging it.

I'd like it if there was a way to shuffle through covers quickly, like guess a cover, hit a 'next button', and go to a new random cover.
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Cursarion
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 6:40 am 
 

Rules wrote:
There should be no nudity of any sort in your drawing.

Isn't this rather limiting? Considering quite a few classic metal album covers contain nudity...
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J_Ason
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 7:51 am 
 

Not to mention prudish and stupid and absolutely ridiculous.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 8:48 am 
 

J_Ason wrote:
Not to mention prudish and stupid and absolutely ridiculous.

I don't care about nudity one way or the other, but my web host has a strict "no porn" policy that I'd rather not run afoul of. I know they probably wouldn't care about hand-drawn album cover replicas, but I'd rather not test my luck. So "prudish, stupid, and ridiculous" it is not. ;)

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DisembowelMe
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 4:48 am 
 

"Your guess of Deafheaven - Sunbather was correct. You were awarded 99 points for your efforts."

That seems oddly... arbitrary, considering I got 100 points I got for all the other times I guessed correctly. Why do some guesses only give you 99 points?

Also, the painting program you have can be infuriating to use. The fill-tool only fills up to the edges of whatever lines you have already put there, so if you want your submission to not look shit, you have to fix that manually, but there isn't even a zoom function to help you with that. I found my enthusiasm for this dampened quite a bit after just my first album, so I suggest considering using another program/programming it better. (if it's yours)

I also suggest perhaps supporting a format like A5, since there are quite a bit of releases exclusively in that format these days that couldn't be represented properly as of now. Minor issue though.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:02 am 
 

DisembowelMe wrote:
"Your guess of Deafheaven - Sunbather was correct. You were awarded 99 points for your efforts."

That seems oddly... arbitrary, considering I got 100 points I got for all the other times I guessed correctly. Why do some guesses only give you 99 points?


Just one more proof that Sunbather is a worthless album.

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Charlo
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:54 am 
 

DisembowelMe wrote:
"Your guess of Deafheaven - Sunbather was correct. You were awarded 99 points for your efforts."

That seems oddly... arbitrary, considering I got 100 points I got for all the other times I guessed correctly. Why do some guesses only give you 99 points?


New scoring system. The value goes down as more people guess the album. You should be thankful my warped mind didn't come up with something even more sinister.

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Also, the painting program you have can be infuriating to use. The fill-tool only fills up to the edges of whatever lines you have already put there, so if you want your submission to not look shit, you have to fix that manually, but there isn't even a zoom function to help you with that. I found my enthusiasm for this dampened quite a bit after just my first album, so I suggest considering using another program/programming it better. (if it's yours)


I know, the fill isn't as good as it should be. In my defense, a lot of freeware paint programs have the same problem, even MS Paint. I tried modifying the code to fix it, but I think I would have to tear down and rewrite in a totally different way if I wanted fill to work properly. Also, for everybody's reference, the existing Javascript paint libraries online were either way too feature-packed, or they just plain sucked. Mine is hand-written; a learning experience to say the least.

After five drawn albums, you can upload images from your computer, so at that point you can use a better drawing program.
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I also suggest perhaps supporting a format like A5, since there are quite a bit of releases exclusively in that format these days that couldn't be represented properly as of now. Minor issue though.


I'll take it under consideration.

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CF_Mono
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 1:23 pm 
 

Charlo wrote:
DisembowelMe wrote:
"Your guess of Deafheaven - Sunbather was correct. You were awarded 99 points for your efforts."

That seems oddly... arbitrary, considering I got 100 points I got for all the other times I guessed correctly. Why do some guesses only give you 99 points?


I was gonna say there should be some sort of graduated scoring system. That way people are trying to rate new albums and everything gets a score.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 2:22 pm 
 

Wtf how do I have more points than dreadmeat?

Drawn by me. Should be pretty easy for most:
http://www.guessthatalbum.com/albums/view/248

This one's also easy but looks much shittier:
http://www.guessthatalbum.com/albums/view/250

And this is where I stopped trying (hopefully not considered too raunchy):
http://www.guessthatalbum.com/albums/view/251

CardsOfWar wrote:
I think it would be a good idea to, rather than giving people points for drawing an album cover, give some monthly amount of points based on the percentage of the guesses submitted to that album that were correct in that month. That way, people would be incentivised to draw well, and punished for accidentally terrible drawings.

What if 0 guesses are submitted? It would still be 100 percent. Perhaps points should be given based on correct guesss (times point value of album) divided by incorrect ones. Then again this could make sabotage of competing users by deliberately incorrect guessing an effective tactic, which should be avoided.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 5:27 pm 
 

I've begun guessing "Somewhere far beyond" by Blind Guardian for every single entry. I'll have to get it right eventually.
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Foulchrist
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 5:39 pm 
 

Not digging the mandatory five uploads using the crappy paint program. The problem with the fill feature has already been mentioned. Even worse, I was in the middle of a drawing when I went to change the colour. Clicking "OK" doesn't make the box disappear, which is easy to work around by just clicking elsewhere on the screen. Got a bit careless and accidently clicked one of the links on the left hand side and now my drawing is gone. Will definitely be more careful next time.

Also, what is the rule on drawing the covers of split albums? I guess it should be "don't", unless you plan to implement the ability to have multiple correct answers.

Problems aside, this is really addictive!

Masterpiece:

http://www.guessthatalbum.com/albums/view/254
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 6:13 pm 
 

Foulchrist wrote:
implement the ability to have multiple correct answers.

This definitely needs to be done.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 6:31 pm 
 

Yeah, I was denied points for guessing an album by a band who commonly gets refered to as an initialism rather than their full name. I imagine every "wrong" guess for that particular album is the same story. I appealed and was awarded the points in the end, but it would save a load of hassle just allowing multiple correct answers. Umlauts and the like are going to cause trouble.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 6:56 pm 
 

Foulchrist wrote:
Yeah, I was denied points for guessing an album by a band who commonly gets refered to as an initialism rather than their full name. I imagine every "wrong" guess for that particular album is the same story. I appealed and was awarded the points in the end, but it would save a load of hassle just allowing multiple correct answers. Umlauts and the like are going to cause trouble.


I actually ignore umlauts and punctuation when checking "correctness", because there is no way for people to get those right. I agree it would be a good idea to accept multiple answers, but it would also be a lot of work on my end, so that feature is probably not imminent. It would probably come along a lot quicker if I ever found myself getting annoyed with the amount of appeals I have to deal with. :D

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 7:27 pm 
 

That's actually the hassle I was talking about. :-P Though, since punctuation errors don't matter, I guess it won't be as bad as I had imagined.
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Is there a way to browse albums with no guesses? If not, that would be helpful. Cool site, dude.
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inhumanist wrote:
What if 0 guesses are submitted? It would still be 100 percent.

Since when is '0 divided by 0' 1? :P
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:58 pm 
 

Most of these are making me see how awful my paint skills are
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 9:22 pm 
 

This is a great time-killer. I just submitted my terrible first contribution to your site. Should be easy for most of us here to guess. :)
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Cursarion wrote:
inhumanist wrote:
What if 0 guesses are submitted? It would still be 100 percent.

Since when is '0 divided by 0' 1? :P

0 x 100% = 0
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Foulchrist
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 6:44 am 
 

Man, too many covers which I should be able to name but can't quite remember. Not going to beg for clues though.

:| :scratch: :???: :cry: :brick:
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 7:31 am 
 

Do I get points for drawing the sexiest album?

http://www.guessthatalbum.com/albums/view/305
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 11:49 am 
 

inhumanist wrote:
0 x 100% = 0

Err, if the percentage is that of correct guesses out of all guesses, 0 correct guesses out of 0 guesses in total doesn't equal 100 percent. So I suppose with no guesses it'd rather be 0 than 100, as in no points if no one even guesses it.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 12:21 pm 
 

0 correct guesses out of 0 total guesses does not equal 0% as there is no data available to calculate a percentage, therefore the percentage calculation is not applicable (N/A) in this case. Same thing with M-A review scores.

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Fair enough.
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