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Xeogred
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:18 pm 
 

Dallasa wrote:
This whole anti-piracy crusade pisses me off because it's blatantly not about piracy. It's all about control. Most of these so-called "pirate" sites were NOT created for pirating, they were created for people to be able to share information freely. The amount of money that corporations lose to the pirates that do use these sites, while debatable, is either next to nothing or nothing, and they know that. Where they DO lose money, however, is through the internet as a whole, now that people don't need newspaper subscriptions to get news, now that independent artists can distribute their material by themselves cheaply, etc. The corporations want these sites shut down in an attempt to return our society to how it was pre-internet, when barely anything could be done without paying corporations for the service, and when the ones who controlled the flow of information were the ones who could afford it.

That's my take on it. As an aside, I always laugh when I see corporations claim millions or billions of dollars of losses due to piracy, yet somehow can still find the money to waste billions of dollars on bribing politicians to come up with stupid laws that almost always fail or are ineffective.

Well said.

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pbsisbad
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:33 am 
 

OzzyApu wrote:
Could you please put that in a spoiler box. Really don't need a giant image protruding like that, even if you're very proud of yourself.


Yeah sorry about that. I didn't realize that it would be huge, because I forgot that I used a huge resolution.

If you want to spread the picture, go nuts. I am following the TOC of the person who made the font, Paint.NET, and the website which hosted the camera, so you may do whatever you want with it.
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WebOfPiss
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:21 am 
 

pbisbad, ACTA has already been signed into law in the United States for a few weeks now.

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aaronmb666
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:59 am 
 

I think I'll stop downloading movies when Hollywood stops remaking and milking movies. Give us something new and original. Ive only downloaded a few movies, two of which were remakes(Fright Night and The Thing). Both were felt lazy(horrible cgi, etc).

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Burnyoursins
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:47 pm 
 

aaronmb666 wrote:
I think I'll stop downloading movies when Hollywood stops remaking and milking movies. Give us something new and original. Ive only downloaded a few movies, two of which were remakes(Fright Night and The Thing). Both were felt lazy(horrible cgi, etc).


I agree, 100%. Can't come up with a original and creative idea to save their lives, so they claim that these old movies need to be "updated".
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Xeogred
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:14 pm 
 

WebOfPiss wrote:
pbisbad, ACTA has already been signed into law in the United States for a few weeks now.

:brick:

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pbsisbad
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:40 am 
 

aaronmb666 wrote:
I think I'll stop downloading movies when Hollywood stops remaking and milking movies. Give us something new and original. Ive only downloaded a few movies, two of which were remakes(Fright Night and The Thing). Both were felt lazy(horrible cgi, etc).


Yeah, I know. We Americans can protest, or convince Obama to take back the agreement. As for those in countries which haven't signed, you guys need to protest this law.

Do realize that if ACTA becomes considered a treaty, it is unconstitutional for the President to make it law, and some people are starting to see it this way. Also, in Poland and the rest of Europe, there are vast protests. Hell, Anonymous made an IRL protest. If the other three countries sign into this law, there will be revolts.
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GTog
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:37 pm 
 

aaronmb666 wrote:
I think I'll stop downloading movies when Hollywood stops remaking and milking movies. Give us something new and original. Ive only downloaded a few movies, two of which were remakes(Fright Night and The Thing). Both were felt lazy(horrible cgi, etc).


The Thing wasn't a remake. It was a badly marketed prequel.

On topic, several European countries have suspended ratification of ACTA, and it's legality in the US is dubious at best. If it's a "treaty", then it isn't legal until ratified by 2/3 of the Senate. From what I understand, it hasn't even been submitted to the Senate, on the grounds that it isn't a "treaty" but an "executive agreement". If it's an "executive agreement" then it isn't binding and doesn't supersede US law.

If ACTA isn't a "law", which is does not appear to be, then individuals violating its provisions cannot be considered to have committed a legal offense. You can't be arrested, fined, or sued for violating ACTA. If your action also violates the laws of your country, of course you can be, but it would be because you violated the law, not ACTA.

Some of the more controversial aspects of ACTA, such as draconian border enforcement, have allegedly already been stripped. Border enforcement in trade agreements just means that the signatory country has to take some measure to ensure goods entering the country aren't in some violation of the trade agreement, i.e. conduct customs inspections. Border enforcement for ACTA would have allowed customs officials and even airport security to access your laptop, phone, mp3 player, or other device and look for illegal content. Silly on the face of it, since a) there's no way to examine a file and determine if it was purchased, ripped from a legally purchased CD or DVD, ripped from a bootleg, downloaded for free, or unDeRMined, and b) it's already illegal for officials to demand that you give up you password to any locked or encrypted drive or device. But it's exactly the kind of thing that technophobic lawyers think is a real gotcha.

By the way, "unDeRMined" is a term I just now coined to describe content that has had its DRM stripped. You're welcome.

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BasqueStorm
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:12 pm 
 

And what about this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Count ... _Agreement

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Protests in Europe on 11 February 2012On 11 February 2012 protest were held against ACTA in more than 200 European cities.


NOBODY is telling us about is being decided:

http://register.consilium.europa.eu/ser ... UMENT+DESC

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ArranoBeltza
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:05 pm 
 

Well, it's not like the government needs these laws anyway. Those fuckers already shut down Megaupload, and I used to download things LEGALLY from there, as well as LEGALLY upload other things onto it.

Maybe a bit unrelated, but that shit really pisses me off.

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DemonHellSpawn
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:18 pm 
 

GTog wrote:
The Thing wasn't a remake. It was a badly marketed prequel.


Yes, to go off on a small tangent for a second, maybe if they hadn't followed the new fad of calling it just The Thing, maybe there wouldn't be any confusion. But now we have The Thing(s): 1951, 1982 and 2011. Give me a fucking break and put a subtitle in there or something. :brick:
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aaronmb666
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:37 pm 
 

DemonHellSpawn wrote:
GTog wrote:
The Thing wasn't a remake. It was a badly marketed prequel.


Yes, to go off on a small tangent for a second, maybe if they hadn't followed the new fad of calling it just The Thing, maybe there wouldn't be any confusion. But now we have The Thing(s): 1951, 1982 and 2011. Give me a fucking break and put a subtitle in there or something. :brick:


When literally the first and last 10 minutes are only parts being a prequel and the rest being nearly a shot for shot remake, it's a remake to me.

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Wolfcry
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:45 pm 
 

DemonHellSpawn wrote:
GTog wrote:
The Thing wasn't a remake. It was a badly marketed prequel.


Yes, to go off on a small tangent for a second, maybe if they hadn't followed the new fad of calling it just The Thing, maybe there wouldn't be any confusion. But now we have The Thing(s): 1951, 1982 and 2011. Give me a fucking break and put a subtitle in there or something. :brick:

"The Thing: (is) We Just Want Your Money". What I don't get is Hollywood receive original and interesting films or scripts every now and then but they refuse to promote or give them good releases (or want the filmmakers to change to look like every other film). Very few (if any) of the remakes made have got any good reviews. I have been to the cinema 3 times in the last 8 years and two of those times I was dragged along with friends.

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pbsisbad
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:45 pm 
 

People, back on topic!
Get this: there's another bill:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_Pro ... _Trade_Act
OPEN. It's supported by Google and Facebook. I don't like it, but it seems like a step in the right direction.
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kingnuuuur
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:17 pm 
 

Interesting plugin for Firefox: DeSopa (DNS Evasion to Stop Oppressive Policy in America)
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Xeogred
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:24 pm 
 

kingnuuuur wrote:

Haha, nice.

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HellBlazer
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:40 pm 
 

Well, apparently it didn't take long for the US to start making new legislation about this.

There's a petition against it for Americans.

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ralfikk123
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:15 pm 
 

Damn, thanks for sharing this. Wouldn't have heard about it at all!
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In
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:13 pm 
 

HellBlazer wrote:
Well, apparently it didn't take long for the US to start making new legislation about this.

There's a petition against it for Americans.

Holy shit, didn't Hollywood learn anything from the first time around? Americans don't want laws like this! Then again, Hollywood is deaf, and even if they could hear, they wouldn't care what the people have to say.

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Xeogred
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:00 am 
 

http://boingboing.net/2012/04/26/sneak- ... endme.html

One comment cracked me up pretty good, because of how true it is:
"As long as the US claims ownership over the internet it doesn't matter where people live."

Still, I hate this country and want to leave.

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OzzyApu
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:18 am 
 

Xeogred wrote:
Still, I hate this country and want to leave.

I'm going to Europe after I get this damn degree. Join me. I'd go to Japan but the Oozaru comments would be non-stop.
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henkkjelle
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:32 pm 
 

HellBlazer wrote:
Well, apparently it didn't take long for the US to start making new legislation about this.

There's a petition against it for Americans.


Is there any way for non-americans to help stop this madness? I know this legislation won't affect me directly, but the american government likes to think they own the internet, and when the US government let this pass, Europe could shortly follow.
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Xeogred
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:53 pm 
 

Yeah, that's pretty much what I said in my post above. -Everyone- everywhere should be concerned about this.

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kingnuuuur
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:30 pm 
 

CISPA Bill Heads for The Senate: Tell Them No, No, HELL NO!
CISPA: Let Congress Know You Will Not Let Them Trash the Fourth Amendment
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HellBlazer
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:06 pm 
 

There's a petition against CISPA on change.org. I'm not sure how much good that can do, but at least it's open to international signers.

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Xeogred
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:54 pm 
 

Signed and will spread it around.

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henkkjelle
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:27 pm 
 

HellBlazer wrote:
There's a petition against CISPA on change.org. I'm not sure how much good that can do, but at least it's open to international signers.


Ah, thanks. Signed it, and will send it to some friends.
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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2012 6:39 pm 
 

Here's a great hypothetical story on what it would be like if CISPA were passed into law.

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HellBlazer
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:51 pm 
 

The latest threat against the Internet is called TPP, the Trans-Pacific Partnership, a "secret" international agreement developed behind closed doors by industry lobbyists. More information and a petition against it at http://stopthetrap.net

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inhumanist
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:05 pm 
 

ACTA, Europe's SOPA sort of, got voted down by the European parliament yesterday with 39 votes for it, 478 against it and 165 abstentions.
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HellBlazer
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:09 pm 
 

inhumanist wrote:
ACTA, Europe's SOPA sort of, got voted down by the european parliament yesterday with 39 votes for it, 478 against it and 165 abstentions.


Oh, good news. I thought that was on its way to passing.

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inhumanist
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:26 pm 
 

I think it's largely due to it getting massively unpopular thanks to the countless protests and campaigns that convinced even the most politically desinterested of how the thing would have limited their freedom... really shows how self interest is the only thing that gets people to actually making a difference. I'm glad though.
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