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verdunkelt
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 12:36 pm 
 

Chaosmonger wrote:

The Velvet Underground & Nico
Perfect mix of European avant-garde and New York urban decadence. It can be harsh and repetitive - in a good way ("I'm Waiting For My Man"), peaceful, tender, dreamy ("Sunday Morning"), even folky ("The Black Angel's Death Song") and "Venus in Furs" is simply one of the best songs ever written.



One of the best albums of all time! My favourite is "I'll Be Your Mirror", greatest love song ever.

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Chaosmonger
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 1:00 pm 
 

Fun House is certainly their most "out there." I'd definitely say it's not perfect (kind of defeats the purpose of naming it in this thread haha but whatever), but the thing takes the more primordial, decadent side of rock n' roll and makes it seem almost spiritual or something.

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The_Krusher
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 2:04 pm 
 

Nirvana - Bleach
Pixies - Doolittle
Meat Puppets - Meat Puppets II
Sunny Day Real Estate - Diary
Bad Religion - No Control
Dinosaur Jr. - You're Living All Over Me
Nausea - Extinction

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Argonauth
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 9:47 pm 
 

Chaosmonger wrote:
Yeah, good call on the Eno man. Classics.


You had an awesome call on the 1st Captain Beyond!!
As I said in my own post, I'm sorely tempted to rate their 2nd one that high, as well except a few spots sorta drag it down, a bit but I'd still give the 2nd one at least 90%, or so

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lennonlikesmetal
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:06 pm 
 

Chaosmonger wrote:
Yeah, good call on the Eno man. Classics.


I've only heard On Land years ago. Seemed good.

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demigod93
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:38 pm 
 

Converge - Jane Doe
Godspeed You! Black Emperor - F#A# (infinity)
Weezer - Blue/Pinkerton
Rush - Hemispheres
Pink Floyd - Animals/Wish You Were Here/DSOTM
Minior Threat - Complete Discography (comp)
Neutral Milk Hotel - In The Aeroplane Over The Sea (in before i get flamed for "being a hipster")
Bad Brains - Bad Brains
Dead Kennedy's - Give Me Convenience or Give Me Death!
Massive Attack - Mezzanine
Explosions in the Sky - All of A Sudden I Miss Everyone
My Bloody Valentine - Loveless
Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream
Catch 22 - Keasbey Nights
Streetlight Manifesto - Everything Goes Numb
GZA - Liquid Swords
Wu-tang Clan - 36 Chambers...
Nas - Illmatic
Botch - We Are The Romans
The Dillinger Escape Plan - Calculating Infinity
Aphex Twin - SAW 1
Pixies - Doolittle/Surfer Rosa
Public Enemy - It Takes A Nation of Millions To Hold Us Back
Modest Mouse - The Lonesome Crowded West/This Is A Long Drive...
The Velvet Underground - TVU & Nico
Radiohead - Kid A

I know there are a lot more. I just can't think of them at the moment.

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lennonlikesmetal
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:12 am 
 

demigod93 wrote:
Godspeed You! Black Emperor - F#A# (infinity)
Weezer - Blue/Pinkerton
Pink Floyd - Animals/Wish You Were Here/DSOTM
Minior Threat - Complete Discography (comp)
Neutral Milk Hotel - In The Aeroplane Over The Sea (in before i get flamed for "being a hipster")
Dead Kennedy's - Give Me Convenience or Give Me Death!
Massive Attack - Mezzanine
Explosions in the Sky - All of A Sudden I Miss Everyone
My Bloody Valentine - Loveless
Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream
Wu-tang Clan - 36 Chambers...
Aphex Twin - SAW 1
The Velvet Underground - Nico
Radiohead - Kid A


All fine albums. My least favoured EITS albums though. Is that DK album a compilation? Think i heard it years ago.

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slavonic777
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:54 am 
 

Many albums... metal for me is just a piece of cake, I like many genres.

Definitely some albums from Avant-Prog or Progressive Rock, mainly those:

Present - Triskaidekaphobie / Le poison qui rend fou
5uu's - Hunger's Teeth
Cheer-Accident - Fear Draws Misfortune
Thinking Plague - In Extremis
U Totem - s/t
The Science Group - A Mere Coincidence
and maybe something from Univers Zero

some punk, post-punk, art-punk and related albums:

Pere Ubu - The Modern Dance
Pere Ubu - Dub Housing
Red Krayola - Soldier Talk
This Heat - Deceit
The Underneath - Lunatic Dawn of the Dismantler
De Press - Block to Block
My Dad Is Dead - Peace, Love and Murder
also Dof Faced Hermans were great

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Expedience
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:34 am 
 

slavonic777 wrote:

Pere Ubu - The Modern Dance


Brilliant stuff

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failsafeman
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:43 am 
 

Did nobody read Abom's post earlier?
Abominatrix wrote:
Most of you have the right idea for this thread, but I for one am trying to learn some things, so I (and others, no doubt) would much prefer it if people kept to the spirit of the OP (and the following few posts) and spoke a bit about the albums in question. Why are they favourites? What makes them so worthy of praise? I'm actually trying to delve into areas of music I'm not so familiar with (I've already checked outt that Cat Stevens album thanks to marks' post...really really surprising!) here, but a mere list of albums doesn't do any good. If you don't have time to talk about a bunch of albums, just mention one. Sorry for getting preachy on y'all, but it's an annoying message board habit that should be quelled around here, just making a list of stuff that nobody can be arsed to read or care about.


If you guys are just going to list, I'm going to close the thread. This is a discussion forum, so fucking discuss already.
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Chaosmonger
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:08 am 
 

Argonauth wrote:
Chaosmonger wrote:
Yeah, good call on the Eno man. Classics.


You had an awesome call on the 1st Captain Beyond!!
As I said in my own post, I'm sorely tempted to rate their 2nd one that high, as well except a few spots sorta drag it down, a bit but I'd still give the 2nd one at least 90%, or so


I actually haven't heard the second one but I always hear it's a big step down so I always balk at picking it up when I see it at the store.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 2:02 pm 
 

lennonlikesmetal wrote:
Is that DK album a compilation? Think i heard it years ago.
Technically, yes, it is, but it includes primarily unreleased songs and a few single-versions of songs (Holiday in Cambodia and California Uber Alles). So if you didn't get the singles on vinyl, you wouldn't have heard those takes.

The compilation is totally worth getting just for Pull My Strings, for the record. That right there was punk rock's finest moment. Not just for the song itself, but for when they played it.

Also, just to emphasize:

Abominatrix wrote:
Most of you have the right idea for this thread, but I for one am trying to learn some things, so I (and others, no doubt) would much prefer it if people kept to the spirit of the OP (and the following few posts) and spoke a bit about the albums in question. Why are they favourites? What makes them so worthy of praise? I'm actually trying to delve into areas of music I'm not so familiar with (I've already checked outt that Cat Stevens album thanks to marks' post...really really surprising!) here, but a mere list of albums doesn't do any good. If you don't have time to talk about a bunch of albums, just mention one. Sorry for getting preachy on y'all, but it's an annoying message board habit that should be quelled around here, just making a list of stuff that nobody can be arsed to read or care about.

Not because I don't trust failsafeman to get the point across, but because I really don't want to see a decent thread on this board get locked because of idiocy.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:43 pm 
 

Agree wholeheartedly with all mentions of Bitches Brew (Miles Davis), In the Court of the Crimson King (King Crimson), Abbey Road (The Beatles), Hemispheres (Rush, although its on the archives), and In A Green World (Brian Eno).

Other stuff that I would give this to....

Explosions in the Sky-The World is not a Cold Dead Place
Brilliant, beautiful. The ambient rock gives way to so much emotion that literally every other post rock band tries and fails. Just listen to those wonderful, emotional melodies during "Your Hand in Mine", just really incredible.

Akira Yakoshima-Silent Hill 1 Soundtrack
Whats a video game soundtrack doing in this thread? You've most certainly never heard it, all of the Silent Hill soundtracks are masterpieces, but this one is laden with terrifying ambient noises that remind you of the dangers of the otherworld.

Insane Clown Posse-The Amazing Jeckel Brothers
I know, what the hell? To be honest I don't know myself, I don't agree with any of the band's veiws, and I usually don't like rap. Something about this record is so stupid, so juvenile, though, that its captivating. Mock me all you want, I honestly love this.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:14 pm 
 

Smoking_Gnu wrote:
"For Lack of a Better Name" by Deadmau5. From the opening snares of "FML" to the funky beats of "Moar Ghosts N Stuff" to the the ominous syncopated keys of "The 16th Hour" to the complete mindfuck that is "Strobe," it's my favorite non-metal album and 3rd-favorite album overall. Part of the reason I got interested in learning synthesizers.


Checked this one out. Thanks for the description. It's really good! I appreciate the number of vintage and possibly newer sounds that were used here, and also the variance in approaches used throughout the album. I mean, a few of the tracks are rather minimalist and more interested in exploring just what can be done with these sounds whereas one or two are almost rocking. Even heard some killer fuzzy organ in there. Yeah, I really like this album and am going to have to track down a copy.
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Argonauth
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:46 pm 
 

Chaosmonger wrote:
Argonauth wrote:
Chaosmonger wrote:
Yeah, good call on the Eno man. Classics.


You had an awesome call on the 1st Captain Beyond!!
As I said in my own post, I'm sorely tempted to rate their 2nd one that high, as well except a few spots sorta drag it down, a bit but I'd still give the 2nd one at least 90%, or so


I actually haven't heard the second one but I always hear it's a big step down so I always balk at picking it up when I see it at the store.



I think some clips of the audio are on YouTube, if you have nothing against 'previewing' it that way?
I think it'd be at least worth a preview.
I've never really heard it get flack, but I guess I could see why it does, it's a lot more trippy/mellow then the 1st, it's more the 3rd one after that (the one with the different singer) that I've heard get tons of flack.
If you're not against previewing it I'd at least try to give it a shot that way.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:08 pm 
 

The Bad Brains and Minor threat title albums more than qualify for a 100%
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:48 pm 
 

Definitely Andrew Jackson Jihad's "Can't Maintain." Lyrically it is one the darkest albums i have ever heard and the hooks will be in your head for weeks.
Also, i would have to say Local Native's "Gorilla Manor." The songs are so well put together and their vocal harmonies are so perfectly executed. The use of tribal percussion really sets this apart for me as well.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:57 pm 
 

Dreadnaught wrote:
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Absolutely.

As far as not too much rap being mentioned, both of Biggie's albums are epic. If you are one of the majority of metalheads who hate rap, just do me a favor and listen to Notorious Thugs and Hold Ya Head. You'll be glad you did.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:17 pm 
 

King Crimson - Islands, In the Wake of Poseidon, Red
These albums are interchangeable, at times I'll be convinced that one is better than the other, then I'll listen to Starless on Red, or Pictures of a City on Wake, or Sailor's Tale on Islands and my mind is changed.

My Bloody Valentine - Loveless
Probably a record that's in many metalheads' collection. The name seems to come up a lot when discussing non-metal. Absolutely 100% record.

Hawkwind - Space Ritual, Hall of the Mountain Grill
Both are the pinnacle of psych-prog.

Biosphere - Microgravity
The album that got me into ambient.

Dead Can Dance - Within the Realm of a Dying Sun
Another album that appeals to metalheads with its ancient sound.

Klaus Schulze - Timewind
If you listen closely, the sequencers will tell you the truth.

Kraftwerk - Trans-Europe Express, The Man-Machine, Computer World, (maybe) Autobahn
The famous Kraftwerk streak; how could you leave this off?

Tangerine Dream - Atem, Zeit, Rubycon, Phaedra
Ambitious electronic

The Doors - Waiting for the Sun
Just barely beats the s/t for me.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:13 pm 
 

Nolan_B wrote:
My Bloody Valentine - Loveless


*barf time*

Why do metalheads like this again? Yeesh.

Nolan_B wrote:
Biosphere - Microgravity


Good, but often (and unfortunately) overshadows the equally excellent Patashnik.

Nolan_B wrote:
Dead Can Dance - Within the Realm of a Dying Sun


Dead Can Dance naturally leads people to liking Death In June, so I support them.

Nolan_B wrote:
Kraftwerk - Trans-Europe Express, The Man-Machine, Computer World, (maybe) Autobahn


How can you leave off Radio Activity, Electric Cafe and (most shocking of all) their masterpiece Tour De France Soundtracks? Autobahn doesn't even count as a real Kraftwerk album, it's not electric.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:25 pm 
 

I agree with the one who mentioned The Tea Party's "The Edges Of Twilight". It's just a great hard rock album with eastern influences that mixes old styles with more modern (well 90s anyways) influences to create a unique sound altogether. The Bazaar is a monster and Shadows On The Mountainside is acoustic grandeur.

Also agree with Leonard Cohen's "Songs Of Love And Hate", which I think is better than any of his compilations due to its flow and generally dark atmosphere.

Some Siouxie fans here, but to me their greatest achievement is "Juju", which came out when the 'gothic rock' genre was fairly new, and remains one of their darkest yet most adventurous albums without being a haphazard collage of styles that much of their other output was (barring The Scream). Spellbound has to be one of my favorite opening tracks to any album of any genre...there's something about hard acoustic guitar strumming over a driving beat that always gets to me.

I have to mention Renaissance's "Prologue" too. It doesn't get the same accolades as the next few albums they released, but there's something about this albums lack of orchestration I find appealing...it's basically just a band with no outsiders playing the hell out of their instruments with some incredible female vocals overlapping the music. The title track is incredible (what Bass playing!!).

As for Dead Can Dance, Within The Realms Of A Dying Sun has perfect songs, but I wish the song order was different...switch In The Wake Of Adversity with Summoning Of The Muse and you have a masterpiece. My favorite though is The Serpent's Egg, which is bookended by two of their greatest songs, The Host Of Seraphim and Ullyses.

Nice Cave's Tender Prey is my favorite by the dude...a perfect mix of his older and more sophisticated (but still baddass) styles. Up Jumped The Devil is always a good time!

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:27 pm 
 

John_Sunlight wrote:
Nolan_B wrote:
Biosphere - Microgravity


Good, but often (and unfortunately) overshadows the equally excellent Patashnik.

Nolan_B wrote:
Kraftwerk - Trans-Europe Express, The Man-Machine, Computer World, (maybe) Autobahn


How can you leave off Radio Activity, Electric Cafe and (most shocking of all) their masterpiece Tour De France Soundtracks? Autobahn doesn't even count as a real Kraftwerk album, it's not electric.


Microgravity flows better as a whole piece than Patashnik does. I was also tempted to include Substrata as equally great (though very different) as Microgravity.

As for Kraftwerk, I'm a die-hard fan, it's possible that I'd say they are my favorite group of all time. It would be stupid to sit there and write every album title they've ever made and say "PERFECT". Kraftwerk's rise into electronic was a slow and steady one, from straight acoustic krautrock of Kraftwerk 1, to the orchestral experimentation w/ electronic drums of Ralf und Florian, to the slow and steady synthesizer piece of Autobahn, then to Radio-Activity which was close but not quite there, and a culmination of pure electronic with danceable beats on T-EE.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:50 pm 
 

Abominatrix wrote:
Smoking_Gnu wrote:
"For Lack of a Better Name" by Deadmau5. From the opening snares of "FML" to the funky beats of "Moar Ghosts N Stuff" to the the ominous syncopated keys of "The 16th Hour" to the complete mindfuck that is "Strobe," it's my favorite non-metal album and 3rd-favorite album overall. Part of the reason I got interested in learning synthesizers.


Checked this one out. Thanks for the description. It's really good! I appreciate the number of vintage and possibly newer sounds that were used here, and also the variance in approaches used throughout the album. I mean, a few of the tracks are rather minimalist and more interested in exploring just what can be done with these sounds whereas one or two are almost rocking. Even heard some killer fuzzy organ in there. Yeah, I really like this album and am going to have to track down a copy.


Yeah, For Lack of a Better Name is a great album and one of mau5's best, but I can't quite call it perfect. A few songs like "FML", "Bot" and "Word Problems" don't do much for me. I will attest to the complete orgiastic quality of "The 16th Hour" and "Strobe", though. Amazing memories connected to those songs. I'd highly suggest is new one 4x4=12, I'd say it even beats out his previous album. It doesn't have as many minimalistic moments, but it's got a lot of Daft Punk influence and some dubstep sounds as well. Really solid all the way through, I think it's my favorite of his. Deadmau5 is pretty damn consistent: Random Album Title is great as well, and so are the At Play mixes. I LOVE BSOD's contributions to those. :D
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:55 pm 
 

I think Radioactivity is phenomenal actually; sometimes one of my absolute favourite Kraftwerk recordings. Must confess though that I just neve fell in love with Trans-EUrope Express. Here Kraftwerk took their mantric repetition to extreme and, while this wouldn't necessarily spell doom for the record, there's those horrible synth string sounds they were playing with at the time to contend with. Yeah, it's cool that they wrote the title track to rhythmically and sonically remind one of travel on the rails, just like they'd done a few years before (and much more successfully and twice the length, interestingly!) with Autobahn, but such ideas are nothing new to me, and while ou might say that idea is more relevant than execution, if something just sounds like arse, I'm not going to enjoy spending any time with it. For the same reason, Burzum's "Han Som Reiste" presents a real problem for me, and it's on practically my favourite album of his, too. I'd rather listen to the semi-acoustical early Kraftwerk stuff than this, frankly...at least that's exciting.

It's ok, though, a group like Kraftwerk is bound to experiment a great deal. "Showroom Dummies" is a lot of fun though, and they sure did get things right again on "The Man Machine". I agree with John that Tour de France is a real surprise and an awesome experience all round, but then Electric Café, despite being the source of the first few Kraftwerk pieces I ever listened to on college radio way back when I was about seven, is another low point in their discography, in my view...glad they receded a bit after that until they could come up with a real masterpiece in the 21st century.

And, as for JS's My Bloody Valentine question...I really couldn't say why other people like it. However, I can say that the album was a really...memorable experience when listening after taking some special mushrooms. Still not sure exactly what I'm hearing half the time and that's part of the appeal of it. Sometimes it's oddly relaxing and at other times absurdly commanding attention because it's all so cryptically in a world of its own. It's the planned yet completely stoned-out-of-their-minds contradiction of the sound that makes it fascinating. I don't know exactly what is going on with the guitars there but it certainly sounds like they're drifting around in some kind of ocean of destabilising froth. :lol:
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 12:01 am 
 

On a semi-related note, when was the last update on the forthcoming Kraftwerk LP? I think they made one slight announcement that there would be another record, then that's the last I heard (this was sometime in 2009.)

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:21 am 
 

Metantoine wrote:
The Mars Volta - Frances the mute
one of my favorite albums of all time, really awesome, but not for everybody, i guess

This! That album never ceases to amaze me no matter how much I listen to it.

Poison Idea - Feel The Darkness
Probably the best hardcore album from 1990 on.

Karjalan Sissit - Tanssit On Loppu Nyt
An industrial/ambient album that sounds like a nightmare in audio form. And I mean that in a good way.

The Devil's Blood - The Graveyard Shuffle
70's style hard rock with satanic lyrics. Short, sweet, and to the point.

Blackbird Raum - Under the Starling Host
Incredible folk punk, I'm sure that even people who hate the genre might like this album. Has many awesome songs yet doesn't overstay its welcome.

Mischief Brew - Songs from Under the Sink
More folk punk. Great songs with great lyrics, what else can I say?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:31 am 
 

John_Sunlight wrote:
Nolan_B wrote:
My Bloody Valentine - Loveless


*barf time*

Why do metalheads like this again? Yeesh.


Who cares what metalheads think anyway? It's a shoegaze classic. Brilliant, and original abum.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:31 am 
 

Nolan_B wrote:
John_Sunlight wrote:
Nolan_B wrote:
Biosphere - Microgravity

Good, but often (and unfortunately) overshadows the equally excellent Patashnik.

Microgravity flows better as a whole piece than Patashnik does. I was also tempted to include Substrata as equally great (though very different) as Microgravity.


Microgravity and Patashnik are excellent albums but Substrata is the one I'd pick out for inclusion here. It's worth some serious praise, and for me personally, it stands out as Biosphere's finest album. Substrata feels like such a definite, refined work with a perfect atmosphere that's unique and active with ideas and depth. There's a lot of great ambient out there but as soon as I got into this I got pretty hooked and it shot to the forefront of my favorites in the genre; it's also one of my favorites to go to sleep to! The two-disc version is essential for the complete experience.
By the way... best use of a Twin Peaks sample ever.

Liquid_Braino wrote:
Some Siouxie fans here, but to me their greatest achievement is "Juju", which came out when the 'gothic rock' genre was fairly new, and remains one of their darkest yet most adventurous albums without being a haphazard collage of styles that much of their other output was (barring The Scream).


Siouxsie & the Banshees are a multifaceted band of variety and cohesion. Definitely a collage of sound but I've never caught even a hint of anything that reeked of a haphazard cut-and-paste job. They're innovators and champions of style; every album and every song is like a different shade of their looming shadow where originality is always apparent.
I wouldn't argue with Juju being thought of as their greatest work, it's a unified masterpiece from beginning to end and most of the time I'd probably name it as my favorite too. SatB have some unbelievable closing tracks and as awesome as "Spellbound" is as an opener, how about "Voodoo Dolly" as a closer! The tension and buildup pulses like a dark ritual and it couldn't be any better (well... only performed better on the Nocturne live album). Always captivating no matter how many times I hear it.

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(... about My Bloody Valentine - Loveless)

Still not sure exactly what I'm hearing half the time and that's part of the appeal of it. Sometimes it's oddly relaxing and at other times absurdly commanding attention because it's all so cryptically in a world of its own. It's the planned yet completely stoned-out-of-their-minds contradiction of the sound that makes it fascinating. I don't know exactly what is going on with the guitars there but it certainly sounds like they're drifting around in some kind of ocean of destabilising froth. :lol:

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Nolan_B wrote:
My Bloody Valentine - Loveless
Probably a record that's in many metalheads' collection. The name seems to come up a lot when discussing non-metal. Absolutely 100% record.

*barf time*
Why do metalheads like this again? Yeesh.

Who cares what metalheads think anyway? It's a shoegaze classic. Brilliant, and original abum.


Abominatrix made some interesting observations about how the obscured sensations and dual, contradictory nature of Loveless can make for some, or even most of the appeal. I agree with this and although I don't think it takes mandatory mushrooms to appreciate (be a champ, LSD), it's through those washed-out tones and warped streams of froth (destabilizing of course) that I can see how metalheads get into this album. Sometimes technique and details are so buried in metal that the presentation of harmony and melody can lend itself to your imagination to fill in the blanks. It can be a textural experience that will demand your attention to be able to comprehend what's going on beyond that. Loveless can make a fan from the type that will hear some production-shot winter opus and find a unique, otherworldly quality in it. I know it can be hard for some to get past production values like this but this album is a great example of beautiful music given character by it's obscurity.
Agreed on any 100% accounts. This album deserves it's praise.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:20 am 
 

Loveless is definitely good but a bit overrated by the Pitchfork crowd. I think it's brilliant production sometimes masks the fact that not all of the songs are great.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:29 pm 
 

Primus -- Sailing The Seas Of Cheese, Frizzle Fry
Ministry -- Psalm 69
Muse -- ShoBiz, Origin Of Symmetry, Absolution, Black Holes And Revelations, The Resistance
Guns N' Roses -- Chinese Democracy(I expect a lot of hate from this, but I love this album so much)
Jimi Hendrix -- Axis: Bold As Love
Downspirit -- Point Of Origin
Andrew W.K. -- I Get Wet
The Beatles -- Abbey Road, Revolver
Polkadot Cadaver -- Purgatory Dance Party
Bumblefoot -- 9.11
A Hero A Fake -- Let Oceans Lie
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 6:53 pm 
 

Radiohead - 'OK Computer'

Prince - 'Purple Rain'

Pearl Jam - 'Ten'

Beck - 'Odelay'

Pavement - 'Slanted & Enchanted'

Kansas - 'Point of Know Return'

Black Crowes - 'Shake Your Moneymaker'

Marillion - 'Misplaced Childhood'

The Cure - 'Disintegration'

Depeche Mode - 'Violator'

Bruce Springsteen - 'Nebraska'

Roger Waters 'Radio K.A.O.S.'

David Gilmour - 'About Face'

Pink Floyd - 'Animals'

Opeth - 'Damnation'

The Clash - 'London Calling'

The Smiths - 'The Queen Is Dead'

Last Crack - 'Burning Time'

Faith No More - 'The Real Thing'

R.E.M. - 'Lifes Rich Pageant'

Trash Can Sinatras - 'Cake'

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BoltTheGates
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 3:55 am 
 

I would give all five of the jazz-fusion albums that I own 100%:

-Billy Cobham 'Spectrum'
-Mahavishnu Orchestra 'The Inner Mounting Flame'
-Mahavishnu Orchestra 'Birds Of Fire'
-Weather Report 'Black Market'
-Weather Report 'Heavy Weather'

and Boston's self-titled debut album.

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PvtNinjer
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 4:39 am 
 

Oh yeah, I'll second Nebraska. Such a dark, emotional and personal sounding album. Pure and raw. Atlantic City is really the most polished track, and one of my favorite songs ever. The rest of the album is a dark, acoustic folk/rock/country that's perfect to chill out to and just listen, especially with those great lyrics. Damn good.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 4:57 am 
 

failsafeman wrote:
If you guys are just going to list, I'm going to close the thread. This is a discussion forum, so fucking discuss already.


Razor_Shark wrote:
stupid list


thrashcollector wrote:
another stupid list


Way to go! If you you've got nothing to say, stay the hell out.

Another album I would put up for being damn near perfect is an interesting one indeed. The album I'm talking about is Corvus Corax - Live auf dem Wäscherschloß from 1998. It's a live album, all narration is done in German (unfortunately), but takes nothing away from the energy and sheer sense of Pagan celebration it exudes. If you know the band you probably already love it, if not they are a extremely interesting, foot-stomping, toe-tapping freaking amazing Folk band of brilliantness. Listen to this albu while drunk and I dare you you to not want to jig, stomp and go crazy to it.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 8:07 am 
 

CrushedRevelation wrote:
failsafeman wrote:
If you guys are just going to list, I'm going to close the thread. This is a discussion forum, so fucking discuss already.


Razor_Shark wrote:
stupid list


thrashcollector wrote:
another stupid list


Way to go! If you you've got nothing to say, stay the hell out.

Another album I would put up for being damn near perfect is an interesting one indeed. The album I'm talking about is Corvus Corax - Live auf dem Wäscherschloß from 1998. It's a live album, all narration is done in German (unfortunately), but takes nothing away from the energy and sheer sense of Pagan celebration it exudes. If you know the band you probably already love it, if not they are a extremely interesting, foot-stomping, toe-tapping freaking amazing Folk band of brilliantness. Listen to this albu while drunk and I dare you you to not want to jig, stomp and go crazy to it.


Fuck off.

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Sepulturafreak
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 9:03 am 
 

Script of the Bridge and Elizium being mentioned? Killer. Throw in The Sisters of Mercy - First and Last and Always while youre at it.

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WebOfPiss
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 9:24 am 
 

Captain Beefheart's Trout Mask Replica is a perfect synthesis of abstract, bizarre poetry, odd time delta blues, and free form jazz. His spoken word pieces are also mesmerizing, like the final stanza of "Orange Claw Hammer". Gotta love his random quips too "A squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is fast and bulbous, got me?!"

Cheers to the person who mentioned Captain Beyond's debut, as well as whoever said Cocteau Twins's "Head Over Heels".

Not sure I'd say Mahavishnu Orchestra's "The Inner-Mounting Flame" is perfect, as some of those compositions aren't as striking as some Can't really beat throwing fuzz on synths, bass, violin, and guitar with wild drumming and exotic scales all while crafting complex harmonies and moving melodies.

Anti Cimex's "Raped Ass" is the pinnacle of all things militant non-British hardcore ;)

Puissance's "Total Cleansing" is godly. Hard to put into words how I feel about that vitriolic piece of martial/neoclassical music.

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Weaponizedtoast
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 10:56 am 
 

ANYTHING that Siouxsie and The Banshees have done. Best female singer.
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hnv1
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:56 am 
 

well I won't add anything (cause some really great albums were put here) old
but I havn't seen anyone name it and it's one of thegreatest!
Beastie Boys - Licensed to Ill

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 1:58 pm 
 

Guthrie Govan - Erotic Cakes
IMO the best shred album ever. The slower melodic songs are excellent and "Wonderful Slippery Thing" is my favorite instrumental song.

Miles Davis - Kind of Blue
Not much to say about this. Every song is excellent.

Wolfgang Schalk - The Second Third Man
Obscure fusion guitarist, great tone and Michael Brecker features on the album.

Madvillain - Madvillainy
I can't say I'm a fan of most Hip Hop. But this is great, almost the exact opposite of the shit on the radio today.

And my favorite album of all time Avenged Sevenfold - Avenged Sevenfold
May be just because it was the first heavy album I liked, but I can't find fault with it at all.

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