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I haven't seen any talk on Gotham here since it debuted. I've been watching it with mild enjoyment up until the last two episodes. I never really got that much into it despite some pretty talented cast members and decent writting. But damn was this weeks episode good. Well actually I'm still having issues enjoying the show but this week this happened and I'm hooked on this part of the show:

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the Joker. Holy shit is the kid they got to play young Joker phenomenal! If you liked Heath Ledger as the Joker the you're gonna love this kid. It's like watching Heath do it all over again. I can't wait for another episode with him in it.


I haven't been following Gotham but...

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Godamn, that scene with the young joker was pretty cool. The video went viral and me being indifferent to spoilers, I went ahead and watched it. I guess I'm not really gonna start following Gotham right now, so that's why I watched it. Nonetheless, the guy can act and he's got the joker's mannerisms and idiosyncrasies down to the T.


Has anyone watched the new Vikings episode? I thought it was kinda ordinary. It helps that they continue to put the spotlight on all the characters in the same episode, for example, the developments in Lagertha's village or Floki's continuing disgust with his life. It definitely keeps me interested as opposed to only focusing on Ragnar 99% of the time. It was a dull start to the season, but I'm guessing things will pick up especially...

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when they raid France soon. Also, looking forward to see what happens with Lagertha and King Eckbert

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:16 pm 
 

I wish they'd reboot Unsolved Mysteries with a host that could actually do Robert Stack's voice justice. Maybe James Earl Jones.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 10:49 am 
 

I've done a search on this topic amd cant find anything. Forgive me if I've overlooked it elsewhere. I'm almost through the second season of Magnificent Century. Are there any fans here on MA?

It's a historical soap opera from Turkey set in the palace of Suleiman the Magnificent in the 16th century. There's a Vimeo amd Youtube site showing it with English subtitles. It's really good. The set and production values arent the best but it's got quite a lot of decent history from that era and the Ottoman Empire in general. I don't know anyone else who's seen it so it'd be good to hear from anyone who has.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 11:17 pm 
 

I finished up True Detective. Weird stuff for sure, but in an amazing way. Definitely dug it. I remember catching a bit of The Killing awhile back when it was new too, I guess they're both from the same creator. I should get back to that one.

Diving into Farscape after hearing so many good things. Does seem like this one has a rough start or something haha... some awkward first few episodes. Must be a grower.

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Definitely a grower. Once you get into the episodes that cover a bit more of the back stories of the characters you'll start to care about them a lot more, which ramps up both the drama and comedy in the later seasons. Probably the best sci-fi show I've ever seen.
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The 100. Season 2. The last episode aired so far, TV's finest moment since turning to color...

Best TV moment ever...

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OMG TWO GIRLS ARE KISSING, SO HOT.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:27 pm 
 

haha
Yea, it was hot. Two cool characters, pretty fine looking ladies, the story line of the show is not that bad either actually. Kind of dark in some ways, the campy aspects somewhat a lower ratio... reminds me a lot of those Fallout games in some ways.

However yea, sexy moment for the show.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 8:37 pm 
 

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Definitely a grower. Once you get into the episodes that cover a bit more of the back stories of the characters you'll start to care about them a lot more, which ramps up both the drama and comedy in the later seasons. Probably the best sci-fi show I've ever seen.

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Farscape would be number 2 on my sci fi list behind Deep Space Nine!

A mandatory watch for sure.
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I'm about a dozen or so episodes in now, it's definitely awesome. The beginning bugged me a little because of how nonchalant everything was with Crichton being in a completely new world... but then I guess I realized the entire crew is a really random assortment of people thrown together, so it's basically all the characters discovering new things and trying to fit in. It's definitely growing on me and I'm impressed with the budget.

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Yeah, that's not how you spell Firefly.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 6:48 pm 
 

Orphan Black S3 trailer just came out.

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Morrigan wrote:
Yeah, that's not how you spell Firefly.


I enjoyed Firefly, absolutely, but I still stand by my appraisal that given more time, it could have been truly top-shelf stuff. For comparison, see Buffy the Vampire Slayer, which went from a somewhat amusing teen drama with cheesy vampires to really first-rate stuff by season 3 or so. I'm confident that Firefly could've done the same but of course it just didn't have time to develop. Farscape, however, did and is the better show for it.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 8:30 pm 
 

I really did think Season 3 of Farscape was great stuff; maybe still too pervasively campy for its own good and not without its flaws, but solid, long-arc sci-fi tv storytelling for sure. Season 2, 4 and the mini-series had a way too high miss-to-hit ratio, though, often confusing "funny" with "fart joke" and "original idea" with "well, they already did it on Star Trek, but if we put it in an intricately detailed Creature Shop suit and rig it up with the latest animatronics, surely no one will notice!" The show just isn't consistent enough on the whole, and that's why I just don't think it's that great.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:18 pm 
 

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Morrigan wrote:
Yeah, that's not how you spell Firefly.


I enjoyed Firefly, absolutely, but I still stand by my appraisal that given more time, it could have been truly top-shelf stuff. For comparison, see Buffy the Vampire Slayer, which went from a somewhat amusing teen drama with cheesy vampires to really first-rate stuff by season 3 or so. I'm confident that Firefly could've done the same but of course it just didn't have time to develop. Farscape, however, did and is the better show for it.


Basically how I feel on Firefly (haven't seen any Farscape though). And Angel, which season 5 is easily the height of Whedon's power and my favorite TV out there - just staggeringly good. The moral grey area, the commentary on big business and corporations, the deconstruction of the "Armageddon, end of the world" story trope (which was a thing since season 2) - all really, really good.

New House of Cards is a full throttle, by-the-throat good time so far. Lots of fun, way better than season 2.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:23 pm 
 

I'm wrapping up season 1 of Farscape and I can definitely see this topping Firefly for me. It's a weird argument though, Firefly is 14 episodes, Farscape is 88 or something. I do love Firefly, but it's not a mind altering outer body experience like most make it out to be (9.2 rating on IMDB with 150,000+ people? lmao)... now if it had been a few seasons worth with some big story arcs, then yeah it may have been the best thing ever.

Bialar is awesome and seems like he'll be playing a bigger role than suspected. I'm looking forward to see Chiana develop more since she was introduced a bit late this season. Rygel's one of my favorites, hilarious stuff. Scorpius definitely seems cool and leveled things up like I heard he would. Zhaan has been my least favorite, but she's growing on me. Overall definitely seems more character focused than say Star Trek or something. I need to get back to TNG and DS9 though, I was up to season 3 in TNG which is when I hear it gets less campy and has better writing, the Borg, etc. And the Dominion War in DS9 just sounds amazing.

Is Lexx legit? It seems to pop up the most googling around for "shows like Farscape" or something. I actually watched a chunk of Lexx back in the day because of all the hot girls hah, but other than that... I just remember it was weird as hell and sounds like it from what I'm reading again about it.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:31 pm 
 

Lexx is softcore porn without most (but not all) of the softcore porn. The four made-for-TV movies are semi-watchable-ish, but everything afterwards is like watching community access in the afternoon. Still, there are uglier women than Xenia Seeberg.

TNG season 3 is where it all gets good. DS9's good too until it shoots itself in the foot early on in the last season. Don't forget Voyager and Enterprise; season 3 of the latter is probably the single best season of sci-fi tv ever created, and I'm seriously not taking on the guise of my alter-ego Mr. Hyperbolic here. It's the trippiness of Farscape with the grittiness of early nu-BSG and the production values of, well, Star Trek. At around $4-5 million an episode, it's about as visual astounding as sci-fi tv gets, but unlike Farscape, it has the writing chops to back up the weirdness.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:38 pm 
 

Enterprise? :ugh:

lol, maybe it's good. But I am far more interested in watching the rest of TNG, DS9, and the original before Voyager and Enterprise. Dunno, they just never appealed to me at all.

The new Battlestar Galactica looks awesome but I wonder if it's a bit overhyped haha. Who knows. I'm actually pretty curious about the original since it's only one season. The sci-fi bug has bit again though so I think this might be a good year for some sci-fi watching for me.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:53 pm 
 

iamntbatman wrote:
I enjoyed Firefly, absolutely, but I still stand by my appraisal that given more time, it could have been truly top-shelf stuff. For comparison, see Buffy the Vampire Slayer, which went from a somewhat amusing teen drama with cheesy vampires to really first-rate stuff by season 3 or so. I'm confident that Firefly could've done the same but of course it just didn't have time to develop. Farscape, however, did and is the better show for it.

Ugh. Comparing Firefly to Buffy should be punishable by death. Firefly was already awesome, I'd actually be scared that it'd jump the shark and go downhill.

Or maybe I'm just bitter at the cancellation. But fuck you all, it's the best TV show and you're all wrong. :nods:
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Xeogred wrote:
Enterprise? :ugh:

lol, maybe it's good. But I am far more interested in watching the rest of TNG, DS9, and the original before Voyager and Enterprise. Dunno, they just never appealed to me at all.

TOS is truly horrible... Enterprise gets a bad rap because the first couple of seasons were really bland (although, amusingly enough, they were still better than the first two seasons of TNG, DS9 and VOY...). Season 3 is amazing though. Season 4 is a step down but not a severe one.

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The new Battlestar Galactica looks awesome but I wonder if it's a bit overhyped haha.

It is and it is. It's everything Ron Moore wanted to do with DS9 but couldn't, for better and for worse. It's definitely the superior show though.
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Morrigan wrote:
iamntbatman wrote:
I enjoyed Firefly, absolutely, but I still stand by my appraisal that given more time, it could have been truly top-shelf stuff. For comparison, see Buffy the Vampire Slayer, which went from a somewhat amusing teen drama with cheesy vampires to really first-rate stuff by season 3 or so. I'm confident that Firefly could've done the same but of course it just didn't have time to develop. Farscape, however, did and is the better show for it.

Ugh. Comparing Firefly to Buffy should be punishable by death. Firefly was already awesome, I'd actually be scared that it'd jump the shark and go downhill.

Or maybe I'm just bitter at the cancellation. But fuck you all, it's the best TV show and you're all wrong. :nods:

Whedon's stuff is pretty... Whedon to me. If anything it's kind of funny to see a Firefly fan dogging on Buffy. lol

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I love Firefly and despise Buffy and especially Angel. Terrible shows.
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Firefly is great but Buffy always seemed like garbage from what I saw of it here and there. Dunno if the attitude is that much different between the shows (can't exactly say since I never bothered much with Buffy) but I can say Firefly's setting/characters interested me a lot more.
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I guess I'm just neutral enough on most of them to not really care, but yeah, Firefly is easily what I'd pick in the end.

I still haven't seen the last episode of Firefly and probably never will. :lol:

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Buffy was always shit to me because the vampires and demons seemed non-threatening and lame. I could look past it but I found the dialogue was really motormouth, socially awkward and excessively snarky. Just completely unbelievable and desperately trying for laughs. Angel was more serious in tone with better action/'suspense' so I managed to like a few really outlandish episodes, I watched a three parter towards the end of it's life that was mildy enjoyable. Firefly on the other hand gelled well with me and one of these days I'll watch the whole season.

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Angel has really become the only thing Whedon did that I watch anymore, though I do want to give Firefly a re-watch sometime soon.
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Lexx is softcore porn without most (but not all) of the softcore porn. The four made-for-TV movies are semi-watchable-ish, but everything afterwards is like watching community access in the afternoon. Still, there are uglier women than Xenia Seeberg.

Man, I got the entire series and watched the first season (these TV movies) but couldn't continue the series, it was so awful. I do love Firefly a lot but it's really hard to judge a series based on one season (and a movie) compared to 7-8-9 seasons shows like DS9 or TNG, it's tough to maintain the quality in a long series.

There's a new interesting series called The Last Man on Earth, the premise is quite simple, this dude has survived a virus and has been on his own for more than a year roaming the states for survivors. After a failure to find anybody, he settled in Tucson, Utah. That's where he'll meet the only woman on earth! It's a comedy show and it's pretty damn funny so far (only 2 episodes out) and I highly recommend it.

I've also been watching The Strain and Fortitude, more on these later.
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There's a new interesting series called The Last Man on Earth, the premise is quite simple, this dude has survived a virus and has been on his own for more than a year roaming the states for survivors. After a failure to find anybody, he settled in Tucson, Utah. That's where he'll meet the only woman on earth! It's a comedy show and it's pretty damn funny so far (only 2 episodes out) and I highly recommend it.

Yeah, watched the first two episodes yesterday! I like it so far, funny and charming with two good leads and an undercurrent of darker, subtler themes. Interesting to see what they make out of this in the long run.
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darkeningday wrote:
TOS is truly horrible... Enterprise gets a bad rap because the first couple of seasons were really bland (although, amusingly enough, they were still better than the first two seasons of TNG, DS9 and VOY...). Season 3 is amazing though. Season 4 is a step down but not a severe one.

I’d like to take a moment to acknowledge that you are the only person in the history of forever who rates Enterprise higher than all other Star Trek series.

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Azmodes wrote:
Metantoine wrote:
There's a new interesting series called The Last Man on Earth, the premise is quite simple, this dude has survived a virus and has been on his own for more than a year roaming the states for survivors. After a failure to find anybody, he settled in Tucson, Utah. That's where he'll meet the only woman on earth! It's a comedy show and it's pretty damn funny so far (only 2 episodes out) and I highly recommend it.

Yeah, watched the first two episodes yesterday! I like it so far, funny and charming with two good leads and an undercurrent of darker, subtler themes. Interesting to see what they make out of this in the long run.


So happy to hear that, I love Forte and always thought he got a bum deal post-SNL.
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CorpseFister wrote:
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TOS is truly horrible... Enterprise gets a bad rap because the first couple of seasons were really bland (although, amusingly enough, they were still better than the first two seasons of TNG, DS9 and VOY...). Season 3 is amazing though. Season 4 is a step down but not a severe one.

I’d like to take a moment to acknowledge that you are the only person in the history of forever who rates Enterprise higher than all other Star Trek series.

Hardly.
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Last couple of episodes of Better Call Saul have felt like filler, adequate/mostly satisfactory filler. Here's hoping they get back to the style of the first episodes.

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Ah, so I haven't been missing anything then. Super. Meanwhile, Vikings continues to be tons of fun.

And Tony, I'm curious to know what you think of Fortitude! You're probably the only honey bear watching that besides me. I have sorta mixed feelings on it but overall it's been pretty cool and unique. Interested to see what comes of the more mysterious aspects of the plot. I was afraid at first that Stanley Tucci was going to annoy me in his role but fortunately it's turned out pretty well in that regard.
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I'll stay away from Lexx then haha.

Doesn't sound like darkeningday likes much. :lol:

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Under_Starmere wrote:
And Tony, I'm curious to know what you think of Fortitude! You're probably the only honey bear watching that besides me. I have sorta mixed feelings on it but overall it's been pretty cool and unique. Interested to see what comes of the more mysterious aspects of the plot. I was afraid at first that Stanley Tucci was going to annoy me in his role but fortunately it's turned out pretty well in that regard.

Azmodes was actually the person who recommended Fortitude, I've only watched the first 90 minutes episode so far and while I thought it was long and had some filler, it was definitely very good. I guess it was necessary to create the mood and introduce the characters. It was a long introduction but the cast and the story are interesting enough so I'll keep watching. It's sort of a Nordic Twin Peaks or something. I already like the feud between Tucci and the police captain dude! I'll continue the series soon as I'm almost done with The Strain.
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Since Gomorrha, another Sky production, positively surprised me last year, I wanted to look into Fortitude as well. I also had to think of Twin Peaks, obviously not as obscure, but some story details like Tucci coming there as outsider to investigate, or the plans to build a hotel at least vaguely reminded me of Lynch's show. The location offers some beautiful shots, but all in all after having watched four episodes so far, I'm not so excited about it yet. Even though it doesn't progress at a glacial pace, I wished some plots would develop faster... but then again, I felt the same way about Les Revenants at first, liked it better and better with every episode at some point though.
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volutetheswarth wrote:
Last couple of episodes of Better Call Saul have felt like filler, adequate/mostly satisfactory filler. Here's hoping they get back to the style of the first episodes.


Yup, there isn't a concrete plot or story line so far apart from him gallivanting about as a lawyer. But I've found it fairly enjoyable so far. I loved the comedic timings in the previous episode.

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I guffawed at the commode and money bills scenes.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 9:47 am 
 

Nah, they're building up a plot for sure, it just isn't fully revealed as of this last episode. The scenes with his brother and with Mike are definitely developing the plot. Plus, we get funny scenes like the above mentioned. It's fine so far for a first season.

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I'm predicting Mike will get Jimmy as a lawyer to help him see his granddaughter without getting the cops called on him - that's how they become working partners. And his brother and this Hamlin guy probably have something to do with him changing his name finally.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:13 am 
 

Xeogred wrote:
I'll stay away from Lexx then haha.

Doesn't sound like darkeningday likes much. :lol:


great movie, but the series is just so fucking campy and pointless. I tried to get through it but couldn't
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