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Subrick
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:30 am 
 

Somebody was gonna make a thread about this eventually, so might as well be me, I guess.

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I dug this. Much better than pretty much everything on Hail to the King. Brooks Wackerman is clearly the center stage performer here, and that can only be a good thing for the album itself.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 5:55 am 
 

Yeah, I like it too. Can't wait to hear what else they've been working on.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:47 am 
 

I actually quite enjoyed Hail To The King even though it was The Black Album Superlite. I'll dig into this after work.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 9:44 am 
 

Sounds like post 80's Annihilator.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 3:08 pm 
 

I've always thought Avenged Sevenfold was some kind of -core pop metal stuff doing this screamy harsh vocals mixed with really cheesy clean vocals thing, but this song wasn't too bad. Just sounds like hard rock/heavy metal to me. Maybe with a bit of power metal thrown in here and there. I was waiting for the song to turn really cringy but it never did. Am I missing something?

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 5:06 pm 
 

So they're still on their "let's just try to be GNR + Metallica forever" thing I see. I dunno, I can't help but really enjoy City of Evil in spite of myself but everything else, before and after, has just been too lame for me. This didn't need to be eight and a half minutes long, I swear it ended three separate times. Just sounded like a lot of words and melodies that didn't amount to anything.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 5:25 pm 
 

laxskinn wrote:
I've always thought Avenged Sevenfold was some kind of -core pop metal stuff doing this screamy harsh vocals mixed with really cheesy clean vocals thing, but this song wasn't too bad. Just sounds like hard rock/heavy metal to me. Maybe with a bit of power metal thrown in here and there. I was waiting for the song to turn really cringy but it never did. Am I missing something?


They were a screechy -core band until City of Evil, which was solid. Their fourth has all the cringe shit on it but the two albums since then have been quite alright for what they are.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:36 pm 
 

The self titled album has some pretty bad stuff on it, but it has A Little Piece of Heaven on it, which is easily my favorite song by them.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:42 pm 
 

I really liked their first album, "Sounding the Seventh Trumpet", when I was a little kid (literally 10-11 years old)...but for some reason I obsessively despised everything else until I grew up and stopped caring one way or the other. These days I think they are just a gateway, entry-level band for little kids, definitely not as horrible as say, Five Finger Fruit Punch or whatever else, but still they don't have any degree of depth to their music which would make me ever consider listening to them. No need to mention the singer's voice...but he sounds like a fuckin' preteen Andi Deris :lol:. I've also got the impression that they were kind of douchebags...one of those metal tabloid sites reported that their last drummer was actually super creative and talented but was literally forced into a Phil Rudd-esque style by the other members, only to still be immediately fired without a word from the other members.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:53 pm 
 

I obsessively loved everything they did around that age until they released their newest album, which I really liked but it also led me to its far superior inspiration Metallica (which sent me down the metal rabbit hole for good.) Then I stopped caring and now I don't really like them.

The new song is too long and Matt's cleans sound bad, like they've always done in fact.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 10:27 pm 
 

The new single is a great classic heavy metal song with amazing guitar melodies. In addition to this, the lyrics are meaningful and haunting and worth to be analyzed. The video clip that goes with it is very clever as well. With songs like these on each record for the past eleven years now, it's a shame this band still isn't included on the Metal Archives and that the group still has the reputation of being a mallcore band. This thread doesn't belong to the tavern but to the metal discussion section. I'm looking forward to their new record Voltaic Oceans.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 10:34 pm 
 

Don't jump to conclusions too hastily. You know how the website works. Their previous album was judged based on our standards (mostly by myself, you can check the old thread) and this one will be processed accordingly. I'm not gonna move the thread based on one song because Monsieur Kluseba said so.

Edit: the song is pretty metal but Hail to the King was also about 50% metal so we'll see if this one can pass the test. Apparently one of the guitarists said it's much more metal than before.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 9:50 am 
 

This is probably the first thing I've heard by them that WASN'T really annoying, fake-aggressive crap - the vocals in this were pretty bad but the melodies were kind of cool and at least they seemed to be trying to do something ambitious. I dunno if I'll actually check out the album, but this song didn't suck.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:07 am 
 

laxskinn wrote:
I've always thought Avenged Sevenfold was some kind of -core pop metal stuff doing this screamy harsh vocals mixed with really cheesy clean vocals thing, but this song wasn't too bad. Just sounds like hard rock/heavy metal to me. Maybe with a bit of power metal thrown in here and there. I was waiting for the song to turn really cringy but it never did. Am I missing something?


^This.
Not gonna' lie, actually liked the song despite heading in with zero expectations.

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Subrick
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 10:00 pm 
 

So the album leaked. I'm on the fourth song and I'm absolutely loving it. This completely blows Hail to the King out of the water, and it's definitely on the level of Nightmare and City of Evil.

Oh, and it's predominantly metal at this point. There are some outside elements like the horns in Sunny Disposition and the breakdowns in Paradigm, but it's metal riffs and a metal atmosphere.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 11:48 am 
 

Subrick wrote:
Oh, and it's predominantly metal at this point. There are some outside elements like the horns in Sunny Disposition and the breakdowns in Paradigm, but it's metal riffs and a metal atmosphere.

Absolutely not. it has metal influences but the predominant sound is radio rock. It sounds like it was made for young kids who just discovered GNR but wants something a bit heavier. They're not getting approved with this album.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 11:52 am 
 

:lol: But Tony, that means you're a metal elitist afraid of the future and evolving things!
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 12:04 pm 
 

I said "at this point". I was only four songs in. After that point the album keeps shifting between punk and metal and completely unrelated elements all the way to the end. I agree it's not overall metal enough for the site, but I still really dug the album as a whole.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 8:19 pm 
 

I'm not surprised by Bearantoine's and Fluffyreal's reactions to the new release ;-) Radio rock with songs that are up to fifteen minutes long, sure dude. Please introduce me to your radio rock channel that is playing these songs.

On a serious note though, I must admit that the new record features indeed multiple influences. While this might be heavy enough for most people, I'm aware of the fact that it isn't enough by The Metal Archives' standards.

I've bought the record today and listened three times to it so far. This release represents indeed a considerable evolution compared to the boring predecessor Hail to the King that mostly just ripped off Metallica. I like it a little bit less than Nightmare but it's quite close and might be a grower considering its length. The new album sounds more complex, diversified and mature than anything the band has released before. I wouldn't call it progressive because it doesn't (re)invent anything but the song writing has become very versatile and even the lyrics are quite meaningful at times.

I'm glad that plenty of teenagers are discovering metal music thanks to a band like this. Despite the weaker predecessor, Avenged Sevenfold sure have become a quality household name of their genre and don't need anyone's approval anymore.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 9:19 pm 
 

November Rain isn't 15 minutes long but it's not exactly a short song either. Same with Stairway to Heaven. Man didn't Green Day do a super long song on American Idiot? How long is Freebird?

Your point doesn't really stand. It's not the standard thing, sure, but there are long ass tunes that definitely come under radio rock.

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I'm glad that plenty of teenagers are discovering metal music thanks to a band like this. Despite the weaker predecessor, Avenged Sevenfold sure have become a quality household name of their genre and don't need anyone's approval anymore.


Dunno man, your passive aggressive whining suggests that you don't really believe that last sentence.

Single was awful, btw. ...Awful. I like GnR, and my Metallica fanboydom isn't much of a secret, but that was just... man. It was really, really bad.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 11:12 pm 
 

Pretty sure he also said with zero irony that non-acceptance of Babymetal can only be explained by irrational prejudice and a fear of the future.

But yeah, it's really melodic hard rock with an aggressive edge, basically like an angrier GnR a lot of the time. Admittedly I only got like halfway through the album because it bored me to death, but several other mods all came to the same conclusion behind the scenes, so once again, it's a no-go. I dunno, I'm weird because even when Waking the Fallen was new and Chapter Four was everybody's favorite song, I never much cared for the band. Yet somehow I thought City of Evil was a huge amount of fun and occasional revisits tells me that yeah, I still like that one for whatever reason. Every other album I've heard though just bores me to tears. They fluked out once and got their formula right the first time they moved away from metalcore and then never again.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 3:24 pm 
 

I felt like Avenged Sevenfold's last record deserved a detailed review. Here it is: http://kluseba.eklablog.com/an-intellec ... a128828750
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