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Muhammadabbadabba
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:14 am 
 

DrSeuss wrote:
Rage Against the Machine.

Communist retards. Plus their music is somewhat unappealing to me to begin with, so it's only affirmed by their idiotic ideologies.


I, similarly, cannot stand Propagandhi. Their song-titles are just too fucking obnoxiously leftarded to even read, let alone listen to.

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dmerritt
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:17 am 
 

Any and all moral, didactic music. I won't listen to country music that praises Jesus or encourages worship, and Jurassic 5 and Judeo-Christian Hip-Hop makes me puke.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:40 am 
 

ROBL250 wrote:
Anything to do with Rap, Grime, House, Garage, Dance, Indie, Pop


What about Shoegaze and Post Rock?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:41 am 
 

ROBL250 wrote:
Anything to do with Rap,


I used to be just like you. After watching a few documentaries about the origins of rap and hip hop, I began to appreciate it. Though, I did like Eminem when I was in second grade.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:43 am 
 

One of the many things about 'Christian Rock' that irks me is that you see Non-Christians who think it's 'great'. This is usually for one of two reasons:
1. The most obvious one. Virtually all Christian rock is generic pop that doesn't stand out at all. Kids, of course, eat this shit up all the time. Move on to Christian metal, and you have the same thing. Whatever the appeals to the n00bish masses is at the front. In the '80s, you had generic Christian Hair Metal bands like Stryper. Now, of course, you've got shitty Christian Metalcore/Post-Hardcore and various rubbish Christian bands exploring the 'extreme metals'.
2. They want to feel 'open-minded'.

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JustinBaker8484
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:43 am 
 

Nolan_B wrote:
ROBL250 wrote:
Anything to do with Rap,


I used to be just like you. After watching a few documentaries about the origins of rap and hip hop, I began to appreciate it. Though, I did like Eminem when I was in second grade.

Yeah rap isnt a bad genre its just over marketed and gaystream. There is so pretty good old school and underground stuff.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 2:15 am 
 

JustinBaker8484 wrote:
Nolan_B wrote:
ROBL250 wrote:
Anything to do with Rap,


I used to be just like you. After watching a few documentaries about the origins of rap and hip hop, I began to appreciate it. Though, I did like Eminem when I was in second grade.

Yeah rap isnt a bad genre its just over marketed and gaystream. There is so pretty good old school and underground stuff.


I have a friend who is very much into rap.... it's kind of like metal, you just have to put in the time to discover the good stuff.... I'm too busy looking for metal, so I just let my friend introduce me to rap....
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mrchris
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 3:40 am 
 

ROBL250 wrote:
Anything to do with Rap, Grime, House, Garage, Dance, Indie, Pop, or some pathetic attempt at what the industry calls "music" but is just commercialised wank thats churned out of a Computer, sold to the highest bidder and claimed that he/she is the most awesome music artist of this generation. And is at number 1 for a week before everyone gets bored of it and moves onto the next craze.


That pretty much hit my spot of explanation on music. Same goes for this metalcore/deathcore trend.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 10:18 am 
 

I was also gonna mention any band that gets seriously fellated by broadsheet newspapers and NME. They're not always bad but usually it completely taints the music for me, mentally.

OneRodeToAsaBay wrote:
This is the reason why so much NSBM absolutely sucks--music exists only as a vehicle for a bunch of drooling primates to propagate their half-baked ideas.


That's why I prefer the likes of Nokturnal Mortum and Kroda to a lot of out-of-tune stuff with boring chord progressions which is usually a guy or two going "we believe this and that, let's make some music about it".

Another thing is, if a band's all "damn niggers/jews/kikes" that's a turn off whereas if they're all into their Savitri Devi and whatnot it adds another element to the music. Y'know, real odd-ball stuff. And if it's more pagan than grimey and militaristic, that helps too.
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PestilentHammer
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:12 pm 
 

I would have to say country music, it's shitty, whiny, and does noone any good what so ever. Especially here in the south with all the beer guzzling retards.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:26 pm 
 

I usually have to research the band if they have some sort of "cause" before I'll listen to them. If it's really obvious that purchasing something by the band (or even downloading it illegally and thus contributing to their listenership) is going to help some sort of organization that I'm morally opposed to, they aren't going to get my support. This goes for just about any extremist philosophy: NS, Christianity (or any other religion with the potential for jihadism/crusaderism), extremist political philosophies, etc. If it's just the band ranting about their beliefs and they have no identifiable connection to any sort of organization that takes action to promote those beliefs, then I'll be a little more open-minded.

I feel this way because I don't think music alone has the power to convince people of the truth of any particular belief system. You're not going to become a neo-Nazi just because you listen to some NSBM. So as long as the band isn't connected to some kind of extremist organization, I think it's mostly harmless. By the way, I think supporting the Christian music scene in the U.S. is a hell of a lot more dangerous than NSBM supporting neo-Nazism, as the Christian right has a lot more power and influence.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 4:50 pm 
 

iamntbatman wrote:
I think supporting the Christian music scene in the U.S. is a hell of a lot more dangerous than NSBM supporting neo-Nazism, as the Christian right has a lot more power and influence.


yes

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:39 am 
 

Empyreal wrote:
How about Sleepytime Gorilla Museum for calling their music "anti-rock"? It's nothing...sacrilegious or anything, but it just strikes me as terribly pompous and douchey, and the band themselves aren't that great anyway. Certainly not enough to warrant a tag like anti-rock.


Ah, I had no idea .. I've never heard them, and this makes me not want to. Anti-rock? Fuck off and die!

The Smiths! I won't listen to them. They made awful music anyway, and that's really more to the point .. butt that "meat is murder" crud gets on my nerves, too. I'm generally open to ideologies that I might consider hostile to my personal lifestyle though, when it comes to artistry.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:57 am 
 

Any band with either obviously noticeable patriotic lyrics or racist lyrics. It also goes for bands that have members who have a history of being such bands. Although it's not more or less enjoying them or listening to them, then it is buying anything by them.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:09 pm 
 

Indie pop, I can't stand the vocals and "twangy" guitars.
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Goatboy
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 3:52 pm 
 

DrSeuss wrote:
Rage Against the Machine.

Communist retards. Plus their music is somewhat unappealing to me to begin with, so it's only affirmed by their idiotic ideologies.


I like RATM. Sure, they're hypocrites and their politics are full of shit, but they did mix musical styles quite effectively (something their imitators failed to do) and, bullshit or not, their lyrics could be quite poetic at times.

On topic, I despise Nickelback. Before you criticize me for taking the easy choice, it's not only their generic bubblegum pop-rock that I hate. They epitomize absolutely everything wrong with music. They're materialistic, their lyrics are something you would expect to hear from a boy band, and they prove that keeping a barely suppressed "R" under every syllable makes people think you're "emotional".

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AlbertMond
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:34 pm 
 

I always thought RATM sounded like The Beastie Boys. I dig them, anyway. I'm not sure what I think of Nickelback.

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Goatboy
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:51 pm 
 

AlbertMond wrote:
I always thought RATM sounded like The Beastie Boys. I dig them, anyway. I'm not sure what I think of Nickelback.


Here's a little taste.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cF2AAMVd33I

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 5:00 pm 
 

Goatboy wrote:

On topic, I despise Nickelback. Before you criticize me for taking the easy choice, it's not only their generic bubblegum pop-rock that I hate. They epitomize absolutely everything wrong with music. They're materialistic, their lyrics are something you would expect to hear from a boy band, and they prove that keeping a barely suppressed "R" under every syllable makes people think you're "emotional".


What was that one "metal" song they did in tribute to Dimebag? That fucking insulted me it was so bad.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:13 pm 
 

I think anti-rock is a very good term, actually. I mean if a band plays in a style derived from rock 'n' roll and calls itself anti-rock that's a sure fire indication that they suck and shouldn't be given any time of day.

Anyway, I can't listen to In Flames on moral grounds. I thought Children of Bodom was bad, but this is on a higher (lower) level.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 8:05 pm 
 

I really think that listing a band just because they're too commercial is not what the threadstarter was talking about.

Anyway, I avoid any songs that make fun of rape, molestation or peadophilia. I'm not against it and don't care if bands do it, and can understand why people find it funny, but from knowing someone close to me that was such a victim it's all of a sudden stopped being funny.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 8:12 pm 
 

On that point, I should mention 'Partytime' by the deathrock band 45 Grave. Great band, and actually a great song, but the lyrics are based on the rape of a five year old. Seriously uncool.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:09 pm 
 

I actively listen to and like Aus-Rotten, but their lyrics are fucking terrible. I mean, they have a good message, but the way they present it is horrible. Instead of just offering a positive message they brow-beat and preach to their listeners. On every song too. Fascists of the left, I suppose you could say.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 3:35 pm 
 

Empyreal wrote:
Goatboy wrote:

On topic, I despise Nickelback. Before you criticize me for taking the easy choice, it's not only their generic bubblegum pop-rock that I hate. They epitomize absolutely everything wrong with music. They're materialistic, their lyrics are something you would expect to hear from a boy band, and they prove that keeping a barely suppressed "R" under every syllable makes people think you're "emotional".


What was that one "metal" song they did in tribute to Dimebag? That fucking insulted me it was so bad.


It was like side of a bullet or something like that.

And I agree that song was pretty terrible, though its to be expected from a band like nickleback.

Anyways they some of the most generic music ever.

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NeglectedField wrote:
I was also gonna mention any band that gets seriously fellated by broadsheet newspapers and NME. They're not always bad but usually it completely taints the music for me, mentally.

OneRodeToAsaBay wrote:
This is the reason why so much NSBM absolutely sucks--music exists only as a vehicle for a bunch of drooling primates to propagate their half-baked ideas.


That's why I prefer the likes of Nokturnal Mortum and Kroda to a lot of out-of-tune stuff with boring chord progressions which is usually a guy or two going "we believe this and that, let's make some music about it".

Another thing is, if a band's all "damn niggers/jews/kikes" that's a turn off whereas if they're all into their Savitri Devi and whatnot it adds another element to the music. Y'know, real odd-ball stuff. And if it's more pagan than grimey and militaristic, that helps too.

Agreed once more, though I don't necessarily mind a grimy militaristic feel to music. Whether it's a NSBM band or an anarchopunk band, so long as they don't neglect musical quality for their ideology, I can listen to it without qualms even if I disagree.

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Goatboy wrote:
DrSeuss wrote:
Rage Against the Machine.

Communist retards. Plus their music is somewhat unappealing to me to begin with, so it's only affirmed by their idiotic ideologies.


I like RATM. Sure, they're hypocrites and their politics are full of shit, but they did mix musical styles quite effectively (something their imitators failed to do) and, bullshit or not, their lyrics could be quite poetic at times.

Any poetry in their lyrics is instantly invalidated by their decision to repeat EVERY GODDAMNED LINE EIGHT FUCKING TIMES.

Also, I'm pretty sure Tom Morello can't actually play the guitar without covering it in half a million pedal effects. Don't get me wrong, I think you can get some pretty cool sounds out of mixing effects pedals, but Morello doesn't play the guitar so much as he plays the pedal board.

With regards to the topic, though, I cannot stand any music (genre matters not) in which the vocalist acts as a total braggart. I do not care to hear how much money commercial rapper #8734 makes any more than I'd care to hear from any other person. Ditto for hardcore tuffguys yelling about how strong they are or any pop star wailing about how sexy she is.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 5:36 pm 
 

Ribos wrote:
Any poetry in their lyrics is instantly invalidated by their decision to repeat EVERY GODDAMNED LINE EIGHT FUCKING TIMES.


I think this is more of an artistic decision rather than poor writing. But if you don't like it, you don't like it:P. I assume you feel the same way about Discharge too?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 6:06 pm 
 

iamntbatman wrote:
I usually have to research the band if they have some sort of "cause" before I'll listen to them. If it's really obvious that purchasing something by the band (or even downloading it illegally and thus contributing to their listenership) is going to help some sort of organization that I'm morally opposed to, they aren't going to get my support. This goes for just about any extremist philosophy: NS, Christianity (or any other religion with the potential for jihadism/crusaderism), extremist political philosophies, etc. If it's just the band ranting about their beliefs and they have no identifiable connection to any sort of organization that takes action to promote those beliefs, then I'll be a little more open-minded.

I feel this way because I don't think music alone has the power to convince people of the truth of any particular belief system. You're not going to become a neo-Nazi just because you listen to some NSBM. So as long as the band isn't connected to some kind of extremist organization, I think it's mostly harmless. By the way, I think supporting the Christian music scene in the U.S. is a hell of a lot more dangerous than NSBM supporting neo-Nazism, as the Christian right has a lot more power and influence.


I agree, though racism comes in many shades and there are numerous ideologies which lie in a grey area.

The thing is, when it comes to any band that's ever been considered NSBM (and whether the band confirm it themselves) how much of core NSDAP-style beliefs a given NSBM band adheres to varies a lot. A band like Der Stürmer obviously buys that kind of thing quite a lot (I find bands like them very hard-going), but Graveland and Sigrblot, whilst being openly racist, have denied being National Socialist specifically. Racism is no 'movement' as such, wherever there are movements it is incredibly fragmented.It depends on your threshhold, and what you pick out from the lyrics. It's not always as clear as "burn teh j00z!"

The ironic thing is a lot more libertarians listen to NSBM than far-left sorts, despite libertarianism having much less in common with national socialism when it comes to the free market and free press.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 6:23 pm 
 

5ealchris wrote:
Empyreal wrote:
Goatboy wrote:

On topic, I despise Nickelback. Before you criticize me for taking the easy choice, it's not only their generic bubblegum pop-rock that I hate. They epitomize absolutely everything wrong with music. They're materialistic, their lyrics are something you would expect to hear from a boy band, and they prove that keeping a barely suppressed "R" under every syllable makes people think you're "emotional".


What was that one "metal" song they did in tribute to Dimebag? That ing insulted me it was so bad.


It was like side of a bullet or something like that.

And I agree that song was pretty terrible, though its to be expected from a band like nickleback.

Anyways they some of the most generic music ever.


Nickleback is the essence of what I hate. They make some of the most annoying, lame, ripoff music ever.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:37 pm 
 

Ribos wrote:
Also, I'm pretty sure Tom Morello can't actually play the guitar without covering it in half a million pedal effects. Don't get me wrong, I think you can get some pretty cool sounds out of mixing effects pedals, but Morello doesn't play the guitar so much as he plays the pedal board.


He actually doesn't use that many.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:13 pm 
 

Ribos wrote:
Goatboy wrote:
DrSeuss wrote:
Rage Against the Machine.

Communist retards. Plus their music is somewhat unappealing to me to begin with, so it's only affirmed by their idiotic ideologies.


I like RATM. Sure, they're hypocrites and their politics are full of shit, but they did mix musical styles quite effectively (something their imitators failed to do) and, bullshit or not, their lyrics could be quite poetic at times.

Any poetry in their lyrics is instantly invalidated by their decision to repeat EVERY GODDAMNED LINE EIGHT FUCKING TIMES.

Also, I'm pretty sure Tom Morello can't actually play the guitar without covering it in half a million pedal effects. Don't get me wrong, I think you can get some pretty cool sounds out of mixing effects pedals, but Morello doesn't play the guitar so much as he plays the pedal board.



The only song I can think of where they do that is Killing in the Name (which is probably one of the worst songs ever made). That and maybe Township Rebellion. Other than that, they don't repeat the chorus much more than any other band. However, I may be able to see where you're coming from considering that their choruses are limited to slogans which can start to grate some of the time.

Regarding Morello, yes he does use the effects board way too much and his riffs are mostly on the pentatonic minor scale without much variation. When he does play solos without the effects (or with limited effects),however, they aren't very complicated, but they are still pretty earcatching. Same goes for the riffs.

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DrSeuss wrote:
Rage Against the Machine.

Communist retards. Plus their music is somewhat unappealing to me to begin with, so it's only affirmed by their idiotic ideologies.


Yup. Same for me.

I hate bands with Liberal lyrics, like System of a Down.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:40 pm 
 

CountBlagorath wrote:
DrSeuss wrote:
Rage Against the Machine.

Communist retards. Plus their music is somewhat unappealing to me to begin with, so it's only affirmed by their idiotic ideologies.


Yup. Same for me.

I hate bands with Liberal lyrics, like System of a Down.



SOAD are kind of worse in the fact most of their videos don't even have anything to do with the lyrics themselves or the song title for that matter.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:01 am 
 

I'm gonna try to answer this question without smearing.

I won't listen to christian rock, not because it is about christianity, but because most of those groups' lyrics are entirely dumbed down and furter dilute their faith. If I'm gonna be preached to, I'd like it to be from someone who has more than a second grade understanding of their religion.

I'm not fond of oversexualized rap and pop songs either.

Also, I don't care for racism or artists who use race as a scapegoat. Examples would be Prussian Blue and Kanye West.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 2:21 am 
 

DrSeuss wrote:
Rage Against the Machine.

Communist retards. Plus their music is somewhat unappealing to me to begin with, so it's only affirmed by their idiotic ideologies.


They are communist?

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DrSeuss wrote:
Rage Against the Machine.

Communist retards. Plus their music is somewhat unappealing to me to begin with, so it's only affirmed by their idiotic ideologies.


Agreed, this band is awful and their politics are even worse.

I don't know if it's a moral ground, but I refuse to listen to bands whose singers sound like girls (Coldplay, Radiohead etc). Men should sound like men. Though I do like Neil Young so maybe it's just the music.

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Anarchist lyrics are way preferable to socialist lyrics.

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Expedience wrote:
DrSeuss wrote:
Rage Against the Machine.

Communist retards. Plus their music is somewhat unappealing to me to begin with, so it's only affirmed by their idiotic ideologies.


Agreed, this band is awful and their politics are even worse.

I don't know if it's a moral ground, but I refuse to listen to bands whose singers sound like girls (Coldplay, Radiohead etc). Men should sound like men. Though I do like Neil Young so maybe it's just the music.


What about Rush?

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:14 pm 
 

CountBlagorath wrote:
I hate bands with Liberal lyrics, like System of a Down.


The thing that pisses me off about such bands isn't that they have their political orientation to begin with but the fact that they rage against "The Man" whilst turning into MTV's bitches. All it effectively did was help bring us another generation of libtards.
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I don't listen to Straight Edge Hardcore. The ideology of the movement usually just makes the musicians involved focus too much on being "troo" to themselves instead of making decent music that isn't a Minor Threat or Fugazi clone.
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