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Empyreal
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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 11:20 am 
 

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Ring 2 was so bad though. That ending is the best/worst part of it. All the evil girl wanted was a hug! Happy ending!


Yeah, and the whole movie, all Naomi Watts does is neglect her son and make all the wrong choices. It's like it was just trying to be totally despicable.
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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 11:32 am 
 

I haven't seen any of those movies in forever. I can't for the life of me remember why people didn't just stop watching that goddamn tape. Most easily beatable movie villain ever!
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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 7:32 pm 
 

Universal Soldier: Day of Reckoning has been the best movie I've seen so far this year, a bleak ultra brutal violent action flick about mind control and lots of shirtless men and women getting chunks blown out of them with a shotgun. It was fucking excellent and has a sinister dark psychedelic vibe and really fucking grim soundtrack.

It is weird, its like part 6 of an awful series and most people will stay away, but I liked it better than The Raid if that helps.

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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2013 1:48 am 
 

Empyreal wrote:
AppleQueso wrote:
Ring 2 was so bad though. That ending is the best/worst part of it. All the evil girl wanted was a hug! Happy ending!

Yeah, and the whole movie, all Naomi Watts does is neglect her son and make all the wrong choices. It's like it was just trying to be totally despicable.

I saw Ring 2 back in high school and I don't remember it being THAT bad, just not as good as the first one. I do remember the parts where they actually look in the well being pretty shocking. Anyway, it's most likely 27-year-old me would not approve of 17-year-old me's evaluation of Ring 2.
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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 10:16 pm 
 

Did anyone see the documentaries called Race to Nowhere and The Wars on Kids? I'm wondering if there good to watch.
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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 12:05 am 
 

I saw Fast and Furious 6 tonight. It's actually really, really entertaining. It's big, stupid, and completely unbelievable, but it's entertaining as hell. A big thing for me was that all the action scenes were done practically, a fact made explicit with the first title card before the credits stating so. Plus the post-credits scene pretty much guarantees that I will be seeing the next one. For those that aren't gonna see the movie,
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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 1:27 am 
 

I just bought The Curious Case of Benjamin Button and Cloud Atlas on blu-ray. I absolutely love both of these movies; it's a damn shame that the latter did so poorly.
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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 5:46 am 
 

Subrick wrote:
I saw Fast and Furious 6 tonight. It's actually really, really entertaining. It's big, stupid, and completely unbelievable, but it's entertaining as hell. A big thing for me was that all the action scenes were done practically, a fact made explicit with the first title card before the credits stating so. Plus the post-credits scene pretty much guarantees that I will be seeing the next one. For those that aren't gonna see the movie,
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Loved it too. Lots of applauses too. Glad the end credit scene was actually before the credits. That got a huge reaction.

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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 9:50 am 
 

The crowd I think was a little too eager to laugh at Tyrese Gibson's dialogue though. There were some zingers in this movie, but they were laughing at everything that was being said like it was the funniest thing ever.

Also, when it comes to the post-credits scene, the crowd before that were cheering, but not too loudly. The moment that he walked out of that car, the crowd broke into absolutely thunderous applause. The theater I saw it in was packed to capacity, so being in the same room as 100 people going completely bonkers like that was kind of a cool experience.
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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 6:09 pm 
 

I'm guessing it doesn't happen at your band's concerts :p
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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 8:23 pm 
 

Blue Velvet is overrated. Pretty boring movie. Besides Dennis Hopper'performance and that one lip-synching scene, it doesn't have much going for it. I don't know, maybe I'm not the target audience.
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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 9:23 pm 
 

Yeah...Blue Velvet kinda sucks, tbh.

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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 12:27 am 
 

Necroticism174 wrote:
Blue Velvet is overrated. Pretty boring movie. Besides Dennis Hopper'performance and that one lip-synching scene, it doesn't have much going for it. I don't know, maybe I'm not the target audience.


Besides maybe Dune it's Lynch's weakest, I would say. It always baffled me why it is often considered his best.

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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 12:31 am 
 

Dune blows! I watched the 2000 adaptation recently and it's much better. The costumes are pretty cool and it's with William Hurt. It's not amazing but it's entertaining, it's like 4,5 hours.
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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 12:59 am 
 

Yeah, Dune is also crap. Neat in some aspects, terribly bungled in lots of others. And funny that you mention the 2000 version, Tony, I watched it a couple years ago for laughs and it didn't disappoint ;). So fucking bad. One of the only shows I've ever seen where the cinematographer intentionally mis-framed shots just to fit in people's massive, retarded hats.
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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 1:07 am 
 

I liked the silliness of it all. It was cheesy in a good way.
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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 1:13 am 
 

Vittorio Storaro, possibly the greatest cinematographer who has ever lived, doesn't know how to frame shots? What The Actual Fuck, U_S.
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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 12:27 pm 
 

Metantoine wrote:
Dune blows! I watched the 2000 adaptation recently and it's much better. The costumes are pretty cool and it's with William Hurt. It's not amazing but it's entertaining, it's like 4,5 hours.


As a die hard fan of the books, I feel that the 2000 version captured the true spirit of what the books where trying to tell. The 84 version was more preoccupied with wanting to make it as faithful as possible to the book and that I feel hurt it in the end, it lacked the spirit of the book. I'll admit, the 2000 isn't perfect either, I'd say there's some underwhelming performances on numerous occasions, but you can feel the impact of religion, politics and inner plotting in it far more.
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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 12:34 pm 
 

darkeningday wrote:
Vittorio Storaro, possibly the greatest cinematographer who has ever lived, doesn't know how to frame shots? What The Actual Fuck, U_S.


Have you seen the 2000 Dune? If not, do so, then we'll talk :P. Note the phraseology "Intentionally mis-framed." As in framing that runs suspiciously counter to intuitive good sense. Since a lot of his other work is beautifully shot, I wouldn't know how to account for some of the cinemafuckery the miniseries contains except to assume that a) the director was insane and demanded headgear worship, or b) Vittorio was sleeping with the costume designer.
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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 2:50 pm 
 

Can we be real here for a second? The original Dune books aren't that good in the first place. An amazing setting, explored through a lame plot with cardboard characters using loads of poor writing. I mean it was cool when I was a teenager and the idea of a teenage boy becoming the Messiah of some alien planet was a great fantasy, but really it's just absurd wish-fulfillment and basically "Gary Stu" self-insert crap. Paul's life is handed to him on a plate, he becomes the Messiah of an entire alien planet that he's never been to simply because of genetics, and everyone is always telling him that he's FUCKING AWESOME. Oh yeah, and he can do all these unique and awesome things that NO OTHER MAN IN THE UNIVERSE CAN DO. And he doesn't even have to work hard or sacrifice anything to achieve those awesome things, it's all because of genetics. Really, I think the setting is cool, I really like the different flavors he gives the cultures (especially the Harkonnens), but the books would have been way, WAY better if they'd just been about more regular human beings instead of these genetic supermen and superwomen who can control every muscle in their body and who can read your thoughts from just the tiniest twitch of your eyebrow.
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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 3:12 pm 
 

Wait, not to disagree with you per se, but can you really criticize a book for the topic it chooses to deal with? Science fiction is kinda about exploring unusual ideas outside the constraints of our normal reality. You can't really say that writing books about a godlike magic übermensch is categorically a bad idea. It can only be a bad idea if it's done in a bad way (or the message is stupid), but I don't see any criticism in your post about the execution (or the philosophy). You are only criticizing the premise of the book.

Sure, you say they are cardboard characters and it's poorly written, but that's just a general opinion without anything in your post to back it up.
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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 3:48 pm 
 

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What The Actual Fuck, U_S.

No, he's right. The movie is balls and the mini-series is atrocious. Hurt is absolutely laughable as Leto. And yeah .. the rest is just total toilet paper.

I liked the books a hell of a lot, but like FSM that was when I was a lot younger. I'd probably still like them well enough, but not take them quite as seriously as I did then. I mean .. I was sure they were THE shit. I have a hard time imagining my opinion doing a full 180 or anything, but the more glaring parts would be more obvious. I remember FSM posted a "take that!" excerpt a while ago that made his point pretty well. Like most any movie that as a kid is just the epitome of cool, but later on it's clearly not as tight. Herbert definitely isn't the most concise writer (or the least, for that matter). Just started Whipping Star last night and already I feel that's more along the lines of what FSM is talking about. Maybe too contrived for its own good, and with not particularly good jokes. At least Dune had atmosphere .. and tension. Maybe I was just a youngling, but I'm willing to bet Dune is still better than most, even if it's not the zenith of sci-fi.

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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 3:56 pm 
 

inhumanist wrote:
can you really criticize a book for the topic it chooses to deal with?

Um, duh? Even more so when it's this super high-concept sci-fi stuff.

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Wow, you contradicted yourself in record time, there.

I made a bunch of brief but specific criticisms because this is the movie thread. Since your fanbutt is obviously hurting I'll go into a little more depth. It's one thing to write about a Space Messiah, it's another to write about a Space Messiah whose Messiah-dom is unearned and largely handed to him. Plenty of Messiahs throughout history, hell, probably most, have had to work REALLY HARD to get people to believe them and faced tons of opposition (and I'm not just talking about Harkonnens and Emperors who are easily defeated by Paul's horde of ready-made fanatic warriors). There are essentially no meaningful obstacles for Paul to overcome; he fairly easily handles every challenge he faces and is never really forced to work hard at all to achieve his Messiah-dom. Yeah his dad is murdered and he has to run around in the desert for a while, but the Fremen have this really convenient prophecy that means all the important ones (except some chumps he deals with easily) believe he's their Messiah right away and then GREAT he has this awesome ready-made army that's super loyal and EVEN BETTER than the Emperor's best crack troops a whole 5 minutes later!!! Wasn't that convenient?? Oh and of course he just has tons of nukes which conveniently render the Emperor's best defenses worthless. And the Emperor stupidly lands on Dune rather than just shooting Paul from space, so the dumb nuke suicide bomb plan has a chance to work.

Compare that to, say, Luke Skywalker, who nearly gets killed tons of times, fucks up his training by facing Vader prematurely, gets his hand chopped off and nearly dies, gets captured by Jabba the Hutt and then the Emperor, nearly turns to the Dark Side, and finally renounces it only to get nearly killed by the Emperor and is only saved through Vader's timely redemption. Not to say Star Wars is the pinnacle of sci-fi or anything, but it features similar heroes (adolescents with great destinies who grow into men and save the galaxy) and it's something most people here are probably familiar with.

As for the writing, I'm not going to quote huge chunks of the book but there are just tons of problems. Interior monologues drone on and on, there's way too much omniscient narration that knows what EVERY character in an exchange is thinking, such that a lot of exchanges that might otherwise be tense really aren't, and there's a nice big fat one in that the stupid chapter introductions give away a lot of major plot points. Is Paul really the Messiah? Will he succeed? Yes, because you find that out right at the beginning thanks to a future history book. Obviously he's the hero and that sort of thing nearly always happens regardless, but there's such a thing as allowing the reader enough uncertainty that it can be exciting.

Granted, Dune still had a lot of cool stuff going for it and I'm not saying it was just a 100% horrible book. But it's one of those seminal sci-fi "classics" from the 60s/70s that just doesn't hold up to the staggering amount of praise it receives. The subsequent books just get worse and worse as the novelty of the setting wears off and Herbert's negative qualities come to the fore.

Also, this is a movie thread on an internet forum about metal. If you want a serious in-depth analysis of why Dune ain't that great, people all across the internet have written tons of articles why.
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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 5:10 pm 
 

Hey, your previous post was essentially "the book is bad because the protagonist has it too easy" which is really not a good argument, so you can't blame me if I point that out. Not every book has to be about a struggling hero (even though Paul does have his struggles, even if they are not of a physical nature). Suspense created through uncertainty about the ending is just a convention of literature and not a value in itself (maybe a value of entertainment, but does everything have to be about entertainment?). But whatever, that's probably just the "fanboy" speaking. I can't tell you why I think the book is great because I don't - I actually haven't made up my mind about it yet, I just don't find most of your criticism to hold much weight.

Regarding my "contradiction", yeah, I wrote that last part after realizing that I wasn't entirely right, so fuck me I guess.

Regarding entertainment: There is some entertaining stuff in this book and there is some boring stuff. Some chapters really drag on and others I find rather compelling. But no, talking entertainment value I've definitely read better books. A big one is how convoluted a lot of it is. Maybe I'm a dumb boy or not paying attention but I had a feeling that much of the talk involving prescience and the political games and all that shit went partly over my head, aka I didn't get the point of much what was going on even though the book seemed to imply that certain things were super important. So that may be something to criticize, that Herbert created a faux sense of complexity by essentially writing nonsense that he later stitched together to make sense.

In the case though that I'm not paying enough attention, the question of message/philosophy comes up, because that's one way to create artistic value, by presenting ideas in a meaningful way. The books obviously dabble in philosophy but I wouldn't say any of it was a revelation or eye opening or made me think "wow, I never thought about it that way" or something, but I want to give this whole thing some time before I judge it prematurely. You see, I'm only through maybe three quarters of the trilogy. Maybe Herbert was just a hack who could skillfully create an illusion of being all deep and over your head and stuff, and maybe people who are smarter than me see through that guise easily (damn, I'm really making myself look like the idiot here, don't I?) but I can't decide that at this point.

Yeah, this whole discussion doesn't really belong here, I agree. Especially considering there is a literature thread where I haven't made a noteworthy post in ages. But then again I wasn't the one who started talking extensively about books in the Movie Thread.
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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 9:05 am 
 

I saw Lords of Salem the other day...I'm a huge Rob Zombie fan so I was expecting to LOVE it but honestly it was sorta boring. Most of the crazy flashback/dream scenes are just really silly...I get that it's surrealism but it's like it's trying too hard to be over the top.

Worth a watch for sure, but don't expect anything along the lines of House of 1000 corpses or Devil's Rejects....

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Furious 6, or whatever the hell it was called, was pretty chill. I expected ridiculous car chases and testosterone wrapped in a high stakes story and I got it. Cool hand to hand combat, and some ridiculous stunts make it fun. Also the fact that my buddy said the bad guy looked like Freddie Mercury.
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Gigli - 1/5

Pretty much just as bad as everyone says - awful acting and annoying characters from stars Affleck and Lopez, a ludicrous story and writing about as bad as you can get, this is simply indefensible. It's not the worst thing I've ever seen, but there's also not really anything about it that would make me pipe up to defend it in an argument. Without any semblance of good filmmaking, Gigli is an idiotic and insipid experience.

Reservoir Dogs - 3.75/5

The first Quentin Tarantino movie, and a pretty good one. I like the energy of it and the fast pace. The characters, while not really likable, work well enough for the story, which is quick and snappy. If this has a flaw, it's just that it feels a bit sloppy and uneven, typical for a first effort by any director really - the monologues go on too long and sometimes it gets a bit dull. But there's a lot of energy and verve to Reservoir Dogs that a lot of Tarantino's later work is missing entirely. I had fun with this, even if it wasn't really anything substantial.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:17 pm 
 

Is it really worth bumping this thread after a week to tell you all I saw Warm Bodies?

Oh well, I just did.

"It's like Twilight, but she falls in love with a zombie instead of a vampire!" Blah. I've actually seen two or three of the Twilight movies (I'm a guy BTW) and Warm Bodies was worse. I'm surprised it currently has a solid 7.0 user rating at imdb.com; maybe the movie made people feel good about themselves if they understood why the young lovers were named R and Julie? Well I tried to pay attention during high school English too, but I have a tough time believing a relationship in which one party is lucky if he can put together a 3-word sentence.

I'd also complain that John Malkovich was underused, but considering the movie was barely an hour and a half and his role was 'Kristen Stewart look-alike's father' I didn't expect to see much of him.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 3:52 pm 
 

Silver Linings Playbook - Ugh, this movie did my head in. Basically everything I dislike about modern movies in a two-hour package. I felt completely disconnected from this movie from the moment it started, and by the time I was 40 minutes in, I couldn't believe that it wasn't even halfway over. By around the hour-and-a-half mark I really wanted to turn it off, but I pressed on till the end. I couldn't stand how fucking contrived the whole thing was. Everybody seemed to go out of their way to be as annoying as possible, the plot was inane, and I just hated it. Jennifer Lawrence is certainly attractive, but why everyone thinks she's such a good actress is beyond me. (She was terrible in The Hunger Games too, but of course everyone in that movie was terrible.) But I don't know, maybe I'm just crazy. Everyone else on the planet seemed to think this movie was the greatest thing, so if you're curious, then watch it, I guess. But don't be too surprised to find that it's not all it was cracked up to be.
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darkeningday wrote:
Vittorio Storaro, possibly the greatest cinematographer who has ever lived, doesn't know how to frame shots? What The Actual Fuck, U_S.


Though he turned senile. Maybe he saw a remastered version? Storaro has now the bad habbit of shitting on his own movies, well shitting on the movies he worked on regardless of what the director would have thought about that. To be more precise, it seems that now, every time someone wants to reissue one of the movies he worked on, he wants to reframe the whole thing so it can be in ''The Last Supper'' aspect ratio. So he just cuts the picture until it fits this unconventional aspect ration. ''The Bird with the Crystal Plumage'' had this treatment for the Arrow blu-ray and it looks disgusting. There's even a shot where you see through a camera with the pathfinders on each corner, but then you can see how he just obviously cut the left side until he had his goddamn ratio because the pathfinders on that side are missing... He's really turned nuts, cropping the picture from masterpieces without the director's approval for the ridiculous reason that the ''The Last Supper'' aspect ratio is the perfect one...

Just compare:
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They all look the same. Broken links usually are like that.
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Evil_Johnny_666
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:26 pm 
 

Oh man, just right-click copy adress link. They can't seem to work when just clinking them... The cropping is particularly obvious in the last two. You can see he cut a bit of the right side and a big portion of the left side. That poster is totally gone!

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:39 pm 
 

Yeah, the images still don't show up. All four links go to the site's home page.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:45 pm 
 

Maybe it's the webpage that sucks? This link works?

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/dvdrevie ... lu-ray.htm

Compare the upper and lower pics.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 9:06 pm 
 

Just watched Stake Land. Kind of a mixed experience. None of the acting was particularly noteworthy and the script wasn't really anything to write home about. The movie was ostensibly about vampires but it was basically a zombie apocalypse/Walking Dead type of movie, except you gotta stake 'em in the heart instead of shoot 'em in the head. The effects looked pretty decent for a low budget movie and a few scenes were pretty good. The best aspects by far were the cinematography and music, which both were really good.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:32 am 
 

Definitely. That movie left almost no impression on me, which is weird. The first 45 minutes or so were definitely the best part. Unremarkable last half.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:23 am 
 

Fellow fans of good-bad movies, I just watched Gor. It was FUCKING AMAZING. It must have been made by people who have absolutely no idea how to make a movie, but they're familiar with how movies generally go, so the scene progression is fairly standard - nerdy, bullied professor from the real world gets magically transported to another dimension, where he witnesses barbarians pillaging a town and taking slaves. He tries to escape but accidentally ends up killing the son of the warlord who was leading the raid, and gets taken in by the refugees from the village. Meanwhile, the warlord takes the village's "Home Stone", which is some magical macguffin that the main character for some reason can't return home without. So, they have a training montage where the nerdy hero gets good at swordplay and archery, and then they set out across the desert, where the motley crew picks up a whimsical dwarf sidekick and the formerly nerdy hero proves that he's worthy of his teammates' respect and gradually grows closer to the heroine. Then there's the final climactic confrontation with the warlord, the warlord is defeated, and they get the Home Stone back. Sounds pretty basic, right?

WRONG. Gor is based on the first book in a series that started in the 60s (famous for starting a BDSM subculture, but that's another story) so I imagine it follows the sequence of events in the book. Except the director and screenwriter seem to have absolutely no idea WHY these scenes take place; the hero isn't just nerdy, he is fucking STUPID right from the get-go, demanding aspirin and a telephone long after it's clear he is far, far from Earth. The training montage is literally like a minute long at most and takes place almost immediately after he arrives, so he's just suddenly great at fighting. The heroine is obviously totally into the hero right from the very beginning (for absolutely no reason) so there's no need for him to earn her respect; the others are just sort of vaguely pissy when he makes mistakes and then don't even comment on it when he finally comes through at the end. The hero saves the main sidekick guy from quicksand for example but there's no "thanks for saving me, sorry for being a dick before," exchange. They just kinda keep going. There are also TONS of really, really contrived plot elements that come in with no other reason than to get the characters from Scene A to Scene B. For a specific example, the whimsical dwarf character decides to help the group reach their destination because he just happens to know a back route into the warlord's dungeon - there's never an explanation as to WHY he wants to help them, he doesn't ask for money, they never reward him, and while they do save him from this big beardy guy who was bullying him, that's only AFTER he decides to go with them. Then, once he gets them where they need to go, he disappears - only to later reappear with the keys to a pesky locked gate that's giving them trouble. What was he doing all that time? How did he get the keys to that specific gate? How did he know they'd need them ahead of time? Doesn't matter, the plot demanded it!

But that's just the tip of the diarrheaburg. There are numerous, lengthy scenes that are given over to poorly choreographed half-naked dancing (both men and women), half-naked fighting, and half-naked wrestling. In fact, EVERYTHING in this movie is half-naked, think Zardoz but with brown leather instead of red. Want to see a male dwarf's ass in a leather thong? Me too! There's this one particularly hilarious part where they happen upon one of the warlord's slave caravans that's heading to his fortress - a few mounted guards are watching over the slaves as they pull this big cart, so the heroes decide it would be a swell idea to hitch a ride. They all sneak into the cart right under the guard's noses (no, they don't bother creating a distraction or anything) and take a load off while the slaves haul the cart that's suddenly gotten 500 lbs heavier without noticing. Yes, let's add to the burden of miserable dying slaves who may be from the very village most of their group is from! Now you might say 'yeah, but they need a way to sneak inside the fortress,' but they actually bail out BEFORE they get to the fortress and just follow the dwarf to a secret back entrance (that he knows about for reasons that are never explained at all - seriously, it's one thing to hand-wave these explanations away with some quick line, but they never even bother with that much). And what was is IN the slave cart, you ask? Absolutely nothing. So what was the point of the goddamn cart anyway? To get the heroes from point A to point B a little faster, of course! But wait. Why didn't they just fucking walk and forget about the cart? What was the point of that scene at all? It didn't progress the plot. It didn't provide any character development. It wasn't particularly exciting or funny or anything, even by Gor's standards. WHAT WAS IT DOING THERE? Remember, this is just ONE SCENE, and already I have to ask all these questions.

Basically this movie has more plot holes than plot. It's fantastic. And just to put the perfect cherry on top? There's a pointless cameo at the very end from Academy Award winner Jack Palance. It's on Netflix, so watch it already.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 4:23 am 
 

I'll watch Gor if you watch Peter Strauss and Molly Ringwald and MICHAEL FUCKING IRONSIDE innnnnnnnnnnn: "Spacehunter: Adventures in the Forbidden Zone"

Which is unfortunately not on Netflix... but I strongly doubt it's particularly difficult to find. It's so terribly wonderful, with more awkward pederastic moments than a Roman Polanski film.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:01 am 
 

The adaption of Terry Pratchett's "Going Postal" was neat. I think I actually enjoyed it more than the book (which was kinda lackluster). Richard Coyle as Moist von Lipwig was fantastic. Most of the cast was great. Definitely better than the Colour Of Magic adaption. The only drawback is that I watched it translated for German TV :grumble: Most of Europe has OVs with subtitles, why can't we?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:05 am 
 

Necroticism174 wrote:
Definitely. That movie left almost no impression on me, which is weird. The first 45 minutes or so were definitely the best part. Unremarkable last half.


Well, the second half did at least have even prettier environments and better music, I thought.
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