WTF that means... I mean, I know what the word means, I just have no idea how it applies to me--are you sure you know what it means?

www.prohibitioncosts.org

What a fucking waste of money.

I assume the whole personality thing is a hit. Believe it or not, but I doubt that he simply decided to use his marriage, one of the most important life decisions of his life, on pleasing the PC crowd.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonderkommando

BeforeGod has a permanent hard-on for the Third Reich, so I'm sure he knows.

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That much is obvious, but I don't even get the context of the "insult"--is he saying I'm a self-hating Jew or something? If so, very, very wrong on both counts--anyone who knows me will tell you I'm a self aggrandizing WASP...

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Yes I know what it means, and I believe that it's a reasonably apt metaphor: they took a fairly active part in the destruction of their race for some temporary material gain, you take part in the destruction of yours for "class" reasons. Sure we're not talking about the exact same situation here, but that's poetic license for you.

If anything you're worse: at least they had guns to their heads...


EDIT: Beaten to it...

Oh man.

If you let people marry who they want to marry, happiness is served. If you don't let them marry for race reasons, only hatred is served. Fuck "racial purity". There is absolutely no imaginable reason for it except fear and loathing of something which is just a little different from what one is accustomed to.

That's pretty rich... full of yourself much?

Nobody elected you the "purity police," and speaking as someone who is almost certainly "whiter" than you, nobody asked you to champion "my race," either. If my time on this planet has taught me anything about "white supremacists," you are probably a sexually abused, physically ugly, socially isolated, lower-class misfit with no future and no life, who pretends to be some sort of progressive in public but hides behind the anonymity of the internet to express cowardly and misguided views that would have you ostracized by anyone you spoke them to.

Why is it that white supremacists are always the least "supreme" among us?

Has anyone seen a Rahowa's Witness who wasn't an ugly white trash loser? When you put your white hood on, you can kid yourself it's because you want the freedom to express your garbage without fear of reprisal, but no doubt it's really because you're afraid of being laughed at for being so ugly. I hope your parents, in whose house you no doubt still live, are properly ashamed of having raised such a useless waste of protoplasm.

Just FYI, I really only pretended not to understand what you meant so that you would come out and state your odious, filthy dogma for everyone to see and not hide behind archaic terminology in a foreign language to leave ambiguity for the casual observer.

If you're so concerned about the future of "my race," why not turn off the computer and do something constructive with your time, like ridding Ottawa of the Untermensch? You can start with Somali drivers who lurch out in front of me without warning and then drive 20 kph, or maybe a few Hull scumbags...

"Race traitor." This'll give me something to laugh about for WEEKS. I'll think of you next time I'm out impregnating negresses...

Mods, I realize this may be borderline for Symposium, but he asked for it.

It's an apt metaphor when you ignore the means, pretend that actions suffered by individuals on an individual level are meaningless, and place all value whatsoever solely on race while ignoring other factors entirely. Which is to say, it's a shitty metaphor since it equates the morally questionable yet rationally understandable actions of sonderkommandos with the totally personal reasons for which one initiates a romantic relationship. The former is morally contentious because it's a question of utility vs. duty: it is morally reprehensible to assist in the genocide of any group, let alone your own. As far as I'm aware, though, they mostly assisted with the disposal of corpses, and did not actually kill anyone. It is also questionable whether they were volunteers, and there were a few uprisings. Their choice, in either case, was either death, disease, and poor living conditions, or slightly better living conditions and relative safety. Their behavior was rational and it is difficult to find moral fault with that since they were between two really shitty outcomes. The true blame here, of course, lies with the Nazis who operated and authorized the camps.

Anyway, should an educated individual who is presumably high on the socioeconomic ladder be expected to refrain from interacting with other such individuals, regardless of where they come from? If those interactions become investments, such as friendship, should they be avoided? What if they morph into a romantic bond? It appears absurd to want to limit one's opportunities in this area to some obscure collectivist notion which is embraced largely by extremists anyway. BeforeGod, when considering any new information, you always seem to view it solely through a racial lens. You also complain of material gains as if that were something detestable. When you live a relatively comfortable life in the first world in the 21st century, it's easy to berate others for their "spiritual" or "racial" failings, but people in shittier situations (see: concentration camps) do not possess that liberty.

Incredibly eloquently put.

This is what I meant; but frankly, given that I was the target of this retarded slur, I articulated it a lot more belligerently. I mean, the guy likened me to a murderous traitor, a cog in the worst mass-murder machine in history, but worse, for what? Marrying a really attractive, smart Asian woman, which, given the comments I see people make all of the time on this forum, about 95% of other other posters would probably want to do as well.

I've heard a lot of hateful bullshit in my life, but that is seriously the most vile thing you can say about anyone. I hope my post doesn't derail this great topic, which kind of went Tavern-ish almost from the start. Maybe somebody could move it.

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I know a ton of people from Vancouver; he's the first person I have ever encountered who uses Holocaust-based slurs against people he doesn't know for marrying someone of another ethnicity, who he also doesn't know (and who isn't Chinese).

I have a shit-ton of Chinese neighbors, all from the PRC, and they drive me batshit a lot of the time, too, but mainly due to their smug attitudes about political issues (like Tibet: "it paht of Chiner!!!!"), and general xenophobia/insularity/non-integration.

There really isn't a good excuse for expressing such hateful attitudes, and if he's your friend you might want to tell him so.

Don't worry, no one with half a brain will blame you for your reaction at being compared to participants in a genocide for marrying the woman you love. Except only perhaps to say that you shouldn't have fallen for such an obvious troll, but then, this IS BeforeGod, and he probably wasn't trolling. Which makes him a total waste of oxygen, really.

BeforeGod - you have been warned before to stop bringing race into topics here it was not relevant (I can't help but wonder if einvolk jinxed it on purpose). Now that's bad enough, but the behaviour shown in this thread is... I don't know if it's more retarded than insulting, but it's certainly both, at least. This is your final warning on the matter. Ignore it and you'll have to join your beloved Morny off at Stormfront or wherever it is that extremist douches go these days.

I really hate when people try to be politically correct in front of a group like you said... and try and backfire it on you. Similar to "You said nigger, you are a racist, you should be killed like a nazi"...etc. If they truly believe it, I don't have a problem with it, it is just the people who do it to try and look morally correct that irritate me.
People like that think white pride = racism, yet they listen to rap all day and turn a blind eye to idiots like "Akon" who I've personally witnessed him doing dry-sex techniques to a woman on stage.

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Some of the laws are pretty stupid. I've seen/heard of people arrested for stupid things.

To relieve the jails, you should first abolish some of the inane laws.

Ending prohibition of psychoactive substances, for example, accompanied by even harsher penalties for being a douchebag while on them: "sure you can use crystal meth, but if you then rape someone while on it, you're gone." It would at the very least clear out simple possession and distribution inmates from the system and make sure that people think twice about whether or not drugs are a good idea. Simply making them all illegal just makes people want to try them.

It just goes to show how hypocritical and counterproductive many Americans are. It's sad, really. We used to be viewed as a land of paradise. People used to come here to escape oppression. This is just another reason why I'm happy to be American, where I am myself free of poverty and deadly epidemics, but I am not particularly proud of it.