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deadtome
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 12:39 pm 
 

Any one use this as a source for opinions? I did a search and found nothing on the matter.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 8:49 pm 
 

I read it sometimes to find albums from bands I may have missed. Their taste is different than mine and I don't really listen to death metal so I just look for metal that is not death or extreme. When they review trad metal or something with clean vocals I usually like it more than they do. I found albums form Livewire and Ascension that I would not have known about otherwise.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2023 5:49 am 
 

Pretty bad if you ask me. Most of the time they just write about bands they are not familiar with just because they got some promo. They should stick to power and prog metal, which seems to be their forte. If they review an extreme metal album I guarantee you this is the first time they are listening to that band.

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Metal_On_The_Ascendant
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2023 11:51 pm 
 

Gravetemplar wrote:
Pretty bad if you ask me. Most of the time they just write about bands they are not familiar with just because they got some promo. They should stick to power and prog metal, which seems to be their forte. If they review an extreme metal album I guarantee you this is the first time they are listening to that band.


That's not true at all considering their most recent "records of the year" were Aeternam in 2022 and First Fragment in 2021. Even just a quick cursory glance at their site reveals more dissodeath, black and death metal reviews than prog and power.

I first came across bands like Sulphur Aeon and Noctambulist from AMG. The reviews are usually well-written and there's pretty good engagement in their comments. Some of the scores are real headscratchers though and there seems to be a bit of pandering here and there but they are one of the most thorough metal sites operating as far as I know.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2023 12:36 pm 
 

I really like AMG and have found tons of new music through it.
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deadtome
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2023 5:26 pm 
 

Appreciate the reply Gents. I too have found cool/new music because of visiting there.
And I also agree with Gravetemplar about some of the annoyances.

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deadtome
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 8:31 am 
 

Wow this thread gets lots of views but not many comments.......no doubt someone has copied it to the dour AMG crew lol.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:14 am 
 

deadtome wrote:
Wow this thread gets lots of views but not many comments.......no doubt someone has copied it to the dour AMG crew lol.


This is not Facebook, users here tend to only comment when they have something relevant to add after viewing your topic and reading through. Plus, there's been discussions about AMG before.
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deadtome
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:49 am 
 

Metal_On_The_Ascendant wrote:
deadtome wrote:
Wow this thread gets lots of views but not many comments.......no doubt someone has copied it to the dour AMG crew lol.


This is not Facebook, users here tend to only comment when they have something relevant to add after viewing your topic and reading through. Plus, there's been discussions about AMG before.

Point taken. Please excuse my green nature. I don't use Fakebook, never have. Thanx for the heads up. I'll search for AMG topics again too.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 12:03 pm 
 

I love checking AMG for new stuff. On another note. I'm specially fond of his SSoaSS review, the best one I've read for that album.
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deadtome
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 12:21 pm 
 

I'm currently reading through the annals of "AMG takes on Nazi's"

So far this comments wins:


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AMG is the absolute worst. Writers who barely like metal and comment sections full of ballwashers who can't wait to agree with whatever the review score is, good or bad. With that said, more power to them for whatever editorial policies they want to enact. I sure hope they will back their new policy up with copious amounts of research into every band they decide to review from here on out - going through past releases, checking on whether the labels have released any "problematic" bands during the last 20+ years, checking whether the bands they review have ever played a festival with a "problematic" band, or share members with one, and so on.

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Rottir
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 1:18 pm 
 

I visit the site regularly and more or less enjoy their reviews, but they definitely tap into that dorky shitlib fanbase that sees Nazi boogeymen in every corner.

There was a recent example where some European band (forget the band, but they threw some hilarious shade on Panzerfauts for using German artwork) issued a promo photo where one member was looking through the okay sign and some snowflake in the comments immediately went off the rails concern trolling about white supremacy, etc. Literal brainrot. Like going after 1914 because you're too stupid to understand which world war had Nazis in it.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 1:29 pm 
 

I like this Incantation ranking they did recently (probably cause I agree that Diabolical Conquest and not Onward to Golgotha is the best Incantation album hehe)

https://www.angrymetalguy.com/amg-goes- ... cantation/
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 9:09 pm 
 

^ Yah that's a pretty giant spread they did.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2023 2:52 pm 
 

I visit the site regularly just to see if there's anything I haven't heard of yet. I find the groupthink about reviews somewhat laughable, people trip over themselves to agree with whatever the reviews say. Not a fan of the 5 star rating system either, but that's just because I find a percentage based scoring system superior. 3 out of 5 stars is not "Good" in my world.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2023 3:06 pm 
 

Thexhumed wrote:
I'm specially fond of his SSoaSS review, the best one I've read for that album.


I read it again and it's not that good, I don't know what was I thinking
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deadtome
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2023 4:28 pm 
 

MeltedFace wrote:
I visit the site regularly just to see if there's anything I haven't heard of yet. I find the groupthink about reviews somewhat laughable, people trip over themselves to agree with whatever the reviews say. Not a fan of the 5 star rating system either, but that's just because I find a percentage based scoring system superior. 3 out of 5 stars is not "Good" in my world.

I agree, there is a quite a bit of 'reach around' going on between the posters/fanboys and 'writers'.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:27 pm 
 

MeltedFace wrote:
I visit the site regularly just to see if there's anything I haven't heard of yet. I find the groupthink about reviews somewhat laughable, people trip over themselves to agree with whatever the reviews say. Not a fan of the 5 star rating system either, but that's just because I find a percentage based scoring system superior. 3 out of 5 stars is not "Good" in my world.


Eh, I don't know if I'd attribute that sort of consensus between writers and users as "groupthink". There's a cohesion there that happens on these sorts of discussion forums (even MA) that is inevitable. AMG has been around a while that its audience knows the writers' tastes and preferences enough to anticipate them and engage on that level.

Ultimately, they serve a great purpose which is introducing a lot of metalheads to bands they didn't know about.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2023 10:46 am 
 

Metal_On_The_Ascendant wrote:
MeltedFace wrote:
I visit the site regularly just to see if there's anything I haven't heard of yet. I find the groupthink about reviews somewhat laughable, people trip over themselves to agree with whatever the reviews say. Not a fan of the 5 star rating system either, but that's just because I find a percentage based scoring system superior. 3 out of 5 stars is not "Good" in my world.


Eh, I don't know if I'd attribute that sort of consensus between writers and users as "groupthink". There's a cohesion there that happens on these sorts of discussion forums (even MA) that is inevitable. AMG has been around a while that its audience knows the writers' tastes and preferences enough to anticipate them and engage on that level.

Ultimately, they serve a great purpose which is introducing a lot of metalheads to bands they didn't know about.


I certainly agree with the second part of your comment. Found some pretty interesting/cool things because of AMG. Personally, I find the reviews fluffy, inflated and written to impress the writers. I get it though: 'writers are going write' and fulfill their craft....I guess it's a little contrived for me, which I guess is the point especially if you went to college for just that :)
It seems they have a recipe/format they follow in terms of number of words. I also understand the artists solicit the reviews: can anyone else confirm that?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 10:28 am 
 

Rottir wrote:
I visit the site regularly and more or less enjoy their reviews, but they definitely tap into that dorky shitlib fanbase that sees Nazi boogeymen in every corner.

There was a recent example where some European band (forget the band, but they threw some hilarious shade on Panzerfauts for using German artwork) issued a promo photo where one member was looking through the okay sign and some snowflake in the comments immediately went off the rails concern trolling about white supremacy, etc. Literal brainrot. Like going after 1914 because you're too stupid to understand which world war had Nazis in it.

Porta Nigra! A band I only found because of that site and an album that is probably going to be top-3 AOTY for me. That whole "controversy" was pretty funny though, although to be fair, those accusations only came out in the comment section.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 10:32 am 
 

deadtome wrote:
Metal_On_The_Ascendant wrote:
MeltedFace wrote:
I visit the site regularly just to see if there's anything I haven't heard of yet. I find the groupthink about reviews somewhat laughable, people trip over themselves to agree with whatever the reviews say. Not a fan of the 5 star rating system either, but that's just because I find a percentage based scoring system superior. 3 out of 5 stars is not "Good" in my world.


Eh, I don't know if I'd attribute that sort of consensus between writers and users as "groupthink". There's a cohesion there that happens on these sorts of discussion forums (even MA) that is inevitable. AMG has been around a while that its audience knows the writers' tastes and preferences enough to anticipate them and engage on that level.

Ultimately, they serve a great purpose which is introducing a lot of metalheads to bands they didn't know about.


I certainly agree with the second part of your comment. Found some pretty interesting/cool things because of AMG. Personally, I find the reviews fluffy, inflated and written to impress the writers. I get it though: 'writers are going write' and fulfill their craft....I guess it's a little contrived for me, which I guess is the point especially if you went to college for just that :)
It seems they have a recipe/format they follow in terms of number of words. I also understand the artists solicit the reviews: can anyone else confirm that?

They have to receive the album (for free) from the artist, but they do not get paid to review albums, if that is what you mean. These are their requirements: https://www.angrymetalguy.com/angry-met ... d-revised/

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deadtome
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 5:04 pm 
 

nakzox wrote:
Rottir wrote:
I visit the site regularly and more or less enjoy their reviews, but they definitely tap into that dorky shitlib fanbase that sees Nazi boogeymen in every corner.

There was a recent example where some European band (forget the band, but they threw some hilarious shade on Panzerfauts for using German artwork) issued a promo photo where one member was looking through the okay sign and some snowflake in the comments immediately went off the rails concern trolling about white supremacy, etc. Literal brainrot. Like going after 1914 because you're too stupid to understand which world war had Nazis in it.

Porta Nigra! A band I only found because of that site and an album that is probably going to be top-3 AOTY for me. That whole "controversy" was pretty funny though, although to be fair, those accusations only came out in the comment section.

Yah, I liked Port Nigra too and might not have found them if not for Dour Metal Guys
They should really consider a name change lol

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:34 pm 
 

deadtome wrote:
MeltedFace wrote:
I visit the site regularly just to see if there's anything I haven't heard of yet. I find the groupthink about reviews somewhat laughable, people trip over themselves to agree with whatever the reviews say. Not a fan of the 5 star rating system either, but that's just because I find a percentage based scoring system superior. 3 out of 5 stars is not "Good" in my world.

I agree, there is a quite a bit of 'reach around' going on between the posters/fanboys and 'writers'.


I also have to agree with this.

The people that write reviews are practically treated like Rock Stars in there. It's bizarre.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 1:34 pm 
 

CoconutBackwards wrote:
deadtome wrote:
MeltedFace wrote:
I visit the site regularly just to see if there's anything I haven't heard of yet. I find the groupthink about reviews somewhat laughable, people trip over themselves to agree with whatever the reviews say. Not a fan of the 5 star rating system either, but that's just because I find a percentage based scoring system superior. 3 out of 5 stars is not "Good" in my world.

I agree, there is a quite a bit of 'reach around' going on between the posters/fanboys and 'writers'.


I also have to agree with this.

The people that write reviews are practically treated like Rock Stars in there. It's bizarre.

I know man! It is weird AF and I'm glad someone else has validated my opinion on that. It's all subjective too as we know.
However: I'm not as interesting as I think I am LOL

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deadtome
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2023 11:59 am 
 

It turns out I am actually even less interesting than I ever thought you knew that I thought I was, even before I had an idea of what you thought about. :brick:

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 11:35 pm 
 

CoconutBackwards wrote:
deadtome wrote:
MeltedFace wrote:
I visit the site regularly just to see if there's anything I haven't heard of yet. I find the groupthink about reviews somewhat laughable, people trip over themselves to agree with whatever the reviews say. Not a fan of the 5 star rating system either, but that's just because I find a percentage based scoring system superior. 3 out of 5 stars is not "Good" in my world.

I agree, there is a quite a bit of 'reach around' going on between the posters/fanboys and 'writers'.


I also have to agree with this.

The people that write reviews are practically treated like Rock Stars in there. It's bizarre.


Not quite. They do get shout outs from some members of the bands they review every now and then but they give harsh reviews to big name bands all the time...and get a fair bit of dissent going in the comments. Case in point being this Candlemass album;

https://www.angrymetalguy.com/candlemas ... om-review/
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