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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:09 am 
 

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Being Irish obviously Irish comedians appeal to me and Scottish people generally share a very similar self deprecating dark humour that the Irish do so I find a lot of Scottish comedians to be excellent. I like a good few English ones, probably my favourite is David Mitchell his rants are fantastic. American comedians never did it for me though, I just don't get it.


You've sort of touched upon the answer there. Stand-up comedy doesn't travel particularly well for the most part (see the below list for a few exceptions). Brit comedians don't do too well in America as cultural references tend to be lost, and the majority of US comedians seem very unsubtle to dry British humour. The interesting anomaly was Bill Hicks, who stormed it in the UK, but was mostly ignored in the US until after his death.

Some good ones: Simon Munnery, Rob Newman, Andy Zaltzman, Henning Wehn, Mark Steele, Tony Law, Daniel Kitson, Mark Thomas.

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I tried to get in to Louis C.K. over the weekend, but his pessimism just really puts me off.

"'Maybe something nice will happen.' Why would anything nice ever happen? What are you stupid?"

That's what enhances it to me. I usually tend to lean more towards the more pessimistic stuff lol
Never really heard anyone actually complain about it or point it out as off putting, that's a new one to me
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MalignantTyrant wrote:
Wilytank wrote:
I tried to get in to Louis C.K. over the weekend, but his pessimism just really puts me off.

"'Maybe something nice will happen.' Why would anything nice ever happen? What are you stupid?"

That's what enhances it to me. I usually tend to lean more towards the more pessimistic stuff lol
Never really heard anyone actually complain about it or point it out as off putting, that's a new one to me



He's just a giant downer, going on about how much his life sucks. I prefer Carlin's misanthropic and nihilistic approach.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 8:16 pm 
 

Louie CK stopped being a downer and is now fully into his family friendly kick. He could be on Full House at this point. Stanhope is more of a downer than anybody but he makes the best points about it.

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Louie CK stopped being a downer and is now fully into his family friendly kick. He could be on Full House at this point. Stanhope is more of a downer than anybody but he makes the best points about it.

not entirely true at all
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If you have Netflix and you like comedians who are funny you need to watch the new Azis Ansari special "Buried Alive". I think it's his best yet. He does some incredible crowd work.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:15 pm 
 

Yeah Aziz Ansari is great. I was initially skeptical just because he was such a young dude, but after a few of his specials on Netflix I am now solidly a fan. Great stuff. The part about the modern ghosts was just hilarious.
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Hmm, I'll have to check those Netflix specials out. I think I saw a Comedy Central Presents thing of his a few years back and wasn't very impressed at all. He must've improved since then.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:11 am 
 

The only stuff I've seen of Ansari's is his grapefruit bit, which is moderately funny, but I have been meaning to investigate more of his work for comparison's sake. I also saw him on that James Franco roast thing and thought he was one of the better presenters.
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I never liked Aziz's specials. Initially, I had heard of the 'Hedberg ripoff' rants and then I saw why. It became quite evident the more jokes I heard. This was a few years ago. I think I watched some of his recent work and overall, I wouldn't say it's really bad, it's just uninteresting to me. His joke delivery seems to be the same all the time, much like how Jonah Hill talks in all his movies :/

I'll look for that 'modern ghosts' joke, never heard that.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 4:53 pm 
 

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Stanhope is more of a downer than anybody but he makes the best points about it.

His bit about comparing life to animal porn is one of my favorite suicide advocacy quotes... "It's not for everyone, If you've sat through half the film and every minute has just fucking sucked, I don't blame you for walking out early"
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 12:53 pm 
 

Do any of you Stanhope fans happen to follow his podcast? That 2-part Nowhere Man and Whiskey Girl series that just dropped was brutal.

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I never really understood what's so appealing about standups. They're not really that funny. A lot of the "good ones" aren't necessarily unfunny, but I'd expect more from guys on stage with huge audiences and fanbases. I laughed more in normal conversations with people than I've ever laughed at standups. I'm not sure what I'm missing here. The funniest one I've seen so far is Brian Regan. But even his recent stuff isn't that good.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:25 pm 
 

^Yeah, I guess that some people do find some standup funny which is what this thread is about...
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:27 pm 
 

I just watched Aziz Ansari's latest special (forget what it's called...taped April of this year in Philly) and it was...ok. Most of his longer, pre-written bits were kind of meh, and I don't really like his hyperactive delivery all that much. His best stuff by far was his improv stuff riffing off the audience; the part about the dick texts where he was talking with the woman in the audience about it was much funnier than the follow-up pre-written make-believe dick text routine, for example. That shows a real bit of talent, and the guy's young so hopefully he'll stick with it and improve as he ages.
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iamntbatman wrote:
I just watched Aziz Ansari's latest special (forget what it's called...taped April of this year in Philly) and it was...ok. Most of his longer, pre-written bits were kind of meh, and I don't really like his hyperactive delivery all that much. His best stuff by far was his improv stuff riffing off the audience; the part about the dick texts where he was talking with the woman in the audience about it was much funnier than the follow-up pre-written make-believe dick text routine, for example. That shows a real bit of talent, and the guy's young so hopefully he'll stick with it and improve as he ages.


I like Aziz a lot for completely narcissistic reasons. The way he tells his stories and delivers his punchlines is very, very similar to the way I do it, so of course I like him for reminding me of myself. Even disregarding that, I just think he's funny as hell. His first and third special are great, and I agree that his improv stuff with the audience was the highlight of his latest special, but for the love of all that is holy stay away from his second special if you can. That whole time he just comes off as an ineffectual wiener whining about why girls don't like Nice Guys and the only part that I laughed at was a bit about his cousin Harris, which was obviously a huge bit in his first special. I almost wrote him off as a fluke after that, but his last special totally makes up for it.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:29 pm 
 

I always love it when standup comics are baffled by how weird the audience is - that's hilarious to me. There's that bit in the new Aziz special when he's talking to that couple about how the husband proposed and they throw him for a loop. It's great.

He doesn't make me laugh with every line but he's likable and I like his delivery quite a bit. Enjoyable.
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I kind of hate......Carlin....for their annoying libertarianish preaching



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Well, Stanhope's far more guilty in that regard, but Carlin was definitely preachy as hell about his shitty old man views on the way things ought to be.



Ugh, fuck off.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:14 pm 
 

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Richard Dawkins yet.





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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:18 pm 
 

^Hmm ;)

I watched Louis CK "Shameless" a few nights back. Seriously, his description of the worlds saddest handjob had me losing my shit. Love how disturbing and completely fucked his ideas are...
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Earthcubed wrote:
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I kind of hate......Carlin....for their annoying libertarianish preaching



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You know it to be true. Way too preachy, and his condescending tone wouldn't bother me that much if he was actually funny. Hard to be funny though, when your act is mostly a rally devoid of any actual jokes. Highly overrated. He does seem like an intelligent man but he comes off as a pseudo-everything in his shows and people actually take him seriously.

Louis CK is great. Pablo Francisco makes funny noises.
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Oh I understand the preaching part of it, it's the libertarian part that had me confused. He openly stated libertarianism was bullshit and on a few occasions espoused the idea that government should be more heavily involved in providing people food, shelter, universal employment and healthcare, which would put him at odds with pretty much every strain of libertarianism I can think of except perhaps for a few of Hayek's and Friedman's more narrow policy recommendations. About the only straight-forward libertarian critique of his I can think of involved a phrase he didn't use (regulatory capture) but he clearly enunciated the same concept without using the "proper" terminology. But the thing is, regulatory capture was a libertarian theory/criticism of state-moderated economies with so much evidence supporting it you can't really call it libertarian, it's accepted by everybody now even if few want to talk about it. It might be libertarianism's most substantial contribution to economics, as even Marxists acknowledge the evidence is there.

I won't argue about Doug, that would be a losing argument.



I tend not to watch too much stand up comedy or listen to it either, so I can't really add much. I'll just say that I think Carlin's best material was about language rather than politics. His bit about airline announcements should be more legendary than any humorous political criticism he ever did. :lol:
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Geez, fuck this. We've come along way as humans, there's plenty of reasons to feel hopeful. Things generally have never been as good as they are today. And they keep getting better and better, as the bad recedes. We're slowly heading to a paradisiac world because of science. Nothing sets me off as much as those hopeless cynics. Of course change is gradual, and sometimes too slow. But we're moving forward and that much is undeniable. Look around, we're not in 12th century anymore. You don't see witches getting burned or people getting tortured, people dying from the tons of previously incurable diseases, etc, etc, etc. Fuck him.

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Nebster173 wrote:
We're slowly heading to a paradisiac world because of science


As dull as cynicism may be, naivety is usually worse. Have you not heard of this thing called climate change?
People who assume that science will save us from everything seem to have blinded by the glare of their iphone. . .
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Acidgobblin wrote:
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We're slowly heading to a paradisiac world because of science


As dull as cynicism may be, naivety is usually worse. Have you not heard of this thing called climate change?
People who assume that science will save us from everything seem to have blinded by the glare of their iphone. . .


That's not science. That's the misuse of the applications of science by our short sighted leaders. I'm not sure if the damage is irreversible, but if it isn't, science surely has the answer. It WILL save us from anything savable. Just look at its enormous track record.

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Nebster173 wrote:
Geez, fuck this. We've come along way as humans, there's plenty of reasons to feel hopeful. Things generally have never been as good as they are today. And they keep getting better and better, as the bad recedes. We're slowly heading to a paradisiac world because of science. Nothing sets me off as much as those hopeless cynics. Of course change is gradual, and sometimes too slow. But we're moving forward and that much is undeniable. Look around, we're not in 12th century anymore. You don't see witches getting burned or people getting tortured, people dying from the tons of previously incurable diseases, etc, etc, etc. Fuck him.

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Nebster173 wrote:
That's not science. That's the misuse of the applications of science by our short sighted leaders. I'm not sure if the damage is irreversible, but if it isn't, science surely has the answer. It WILL save us from anything savable. Just look at its enormous track record.


To an extent, you've missed my point. I'm more pointing out the naivety of a notion of "heading to a paradisiac world" which really does not seem to be especially accurate, regardless of causality. Surely utopianism is as misguided as weary cynicism. Just less funny.
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Acidgobblin wrote:
To an extent, you've missed my point. I'm more pointing out the naivety of a notion of "heading to a paradisiac world" which really does not seem to be especially accurate, regardless of causality. Surely utopianism is as misguided as weary cynicism. Just less funny.


This isn't naive. This isn't faith. You can see this happening. Life expectancy is the highest it's ever been. People are as healthy as they've ever been. Eventually, we'll cure all diseases. We'll find better cures for already curable diseases. As we advance in genetics, no one will be born sick. As we advance in nanotechnology, no one will even get sick. With aging control, you'll live as long as you want to. Eventually, machines will replace every human job(possibly even maintenance). Money will become obsolete. There will be no poverty. You'll be able to get anything you've ever wanted or needed for free. You'll get an extra 8-12 hours in your day to do actual meaningful things with your life. As people, we're constantly getting less prejudiced and more accepting and understanding. How we're conversing right now would blow anyone's mind a couple of decades ago. So many things we've grown accustomed to today would astound any person who lived in the past. We're progressing at an accelerating rate. I don't need to go on. You can look at it from any angle you want and see the vast strides we've made. Utopia isn't just plausible, it's inevitable.

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Wow, you're the single most optimistic person I've come across for a long time. I wish I could share you optimism, but I think you've read one too many Isaac Asimov novels.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.
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I'm nowhere near as much of an optimist as Nebster there, but I just don't find Carlin's "weary cynicism" to be funny at all. It's just that - weary. Also, loads of his "jokes" are based either in total ignorance or in some more obvious logical fallacy; for example that tirade about voting makes no goddamn sense whatsoever. He says he gets to complain because he didn't vote and therefore isn't responsible for the actions of whoever's in power; but the thing is he could've voted for someone else. It's just such an obviously stupid line of reasoning that it sort of baffles me how anyone could see eye-to-eye with his views and further, get any enjoyment out of his silly rant as if it's some sort of comedic performance.
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Carlin has moments where his pessimism gets a bit much, but so does Louis CK, as someone else mentioned. Personally I find them both entertaining when I'm in the mood. Carlin doesn't always tell actual jokes, but his delivery and sardonic personality are entertaining to me. And Louis, well you know everything pessimistic he says is with a wry grin behind his eyes anyway. Recently got into Doug Stanhope too, he's also good - sort of like Carlin where he just blows shit out of proportion and rants a lot, but it's enjoyable to listen to.

batman did have a point about the voting bit; I always thought the same thing. Doesn't change my view of his overall material.
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iamntbatman wrote:
He says he gets to complain because he didn't vote and therefore isn't responsible for the actions of whoever's in power; but the thing is he could've voted for someone else.

Sure, if you are so inclined you can drain the funny away like that, but maybe the silly reasoning was the joke. I very much doubt that he would've ever used that argument in a serious context to prove his point, so it's kind of pointless to argue against it like he was doing that.

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Having a balanced, down to Earth viewpoint isn't funny. The reason Carlin and Stanhope go so over the top with their politics is because taking a definite stance and going all the way with it is a more clear way to work some jokes in then saying "oh, well, both sides have their points, and I recognize and respect them." Whether or not that's funny to you is certainly subjective, but there you go - it's basically like Necessitarian said above. I doubt that's really what they think in real life.
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Well, Stanhope actually inserts jokes into his routine, whereas Carlin's more politicized rants are essentially just obnoxious, ill-thought-out blog posts read by a charismatic guy. They're like proto-YouTube talking head videos. "It's funny because it's true!", except for it's not true. Stanhope's politics are infinitely shittier though, so despite being an actual comedian he's just as insufferable.
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iamntbatman wrote:
Stanhope's politics are infinitely shittier though, so despite being an actual comedian he's just as insufferable.

What exactly do you mean by Stanhope's politics anyway? The all-drugs-should-be-legal, pro-abortion, maximum amount of personal freedom type of stuff?

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The latter part especially.
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Nebster173 wrote:
Acidgobblin wrote:
To an extent, you've missed my point. I'm more pointing out the naivety of a notion of "heading to a paradisiac world" which really does not seem to be especially accurate, regardless of causality. Surely utopianism is as misguided as weary cynicism. Just less funny.


This isn't naive. This isn't faith. You can see this happening. Life expectancy is the highest it's ever been. People are as healthy as they've ever been. Eventually, we'll cure all diseases. We'll find better cures for already curable diseases. As we advance in genetics, no one will be born sick. As we advance in nanotechnology, no one will even get sick. With aging control, you'll live as long as you want to. Eventually, machines will replace every human job(possibly even maintenance). Money will become obsolete. There will be no poverty. You'll be able to get anything you've ever wanted or needed for free. You'll get an extra 8-12 hours in your day to do actual meaningful things with your life. As people, we're constantly getting less prejudiced and more accepting and understanding. How we're conversing right now would blow anyone's mind a couple of decades ago. So many things we've grown accustomed to today would astound any person who lived in the past. We're progressing at an accelerating rate. I don't need to go on. You can look at it from any angle you want and see the vast strides we've made. Utopia isn't just plausible, it's inevitable.


This for of utopianism is actually quite funny, so i retract my earlier remarks.

Seriously though. Your post is pure science fiction. I could rebutt basically all your points but arguing against fiction is futile. Sure, many things are getting better in the world (particularly the western world) but look at whats happening in less 'developed' nations (such as the ongoing situation in the Phillipines). We're talking about people having to filter water with clothing to remove dirt, this happening in 2013 in a world that is apparently heading towards pardise. Yeah right....
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Acidgobblin wrote:
This for of utopianism is actually quite funny, so i retract my earlier remarks.

Seriously though. Your post is pure science fiction. I could rebutt basically all your points but arguing against fiction is futile. Sure, many things are getting better in the world (particularly the western world) but look at whats happening in less 'developed' nations (such as the ongoing situation in the Phillipines). We're talking about people having to filter water with clothing to remove dirt, this happening in 2013 in a world that is apparently heading towards pardise. Yeah right....


I didn't say we're there, we obviously aren't, but we're clearly heading in that direction. You citing contrary examples doesn't disprove my point, because the overall state of the entire world is still way ahead of where it was. You wouldn't have been able to say they were less developed if the development standard wasn't set, and what sets that is our constant advancements forward.

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