I still haven't played it but I feel like I have because I've watched literally hours of it on YouTube while bored at work.

Can't believe there's no PC port .

I just bought it. I'm kinda lost for now, but the game seems to have a lot of stuff, so I'll probably catch up with it later on.

Dragon's Dogma is deeply flawed, but a shitton of fun. I hope you got the Dark Arisen version, Xlxlx. The Dark Arisen expansion is by far the best part of the game, though don't tackle it until very late game or you will get slaughtered.


Are you fucking kidding me? How is this even a thing?

Hype deflated. Now even that $2 seems like too much for such a ridiculously stupid concept.


Hmmm what is VATS exactly? Can I use whatever that is to bypass this stupid dice roll system?


Why do they do this? You can make a full-blown RPG without resorting to shit like this. So stupid.

Oooof, don't ever play Vampire The Masquerade: Bloodlines, then...

(even though you should, because it's awesome)

Well, take into account that what Diamhea said is completely false. If you aim a gun at a guy and the bullet hits him, it counts as a hit. It's not bloody Morrowind!

It rolls for damage, not for whether you hit a guy, when you're not using VATS.

VATS basically pauses the world and lets you aim for specific body parts with a % chance to hit based on your RPG stats. You can't use it endlessly (unless you build that way) but still it does seem pretty OP, but it also has awesome animations. Basically if you're good at FPS, you can go around sniping dudes regularly, but if you're not, you can go the VATS route and let it be more of an RPG. Or some mix of both, usually.

I see... still dumb but not as infuriating I guess...


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Thanks for clarifying; yeah it's been a while.

I'm afraid it's the vanilla version. The DA edition of the game was also available, but at twice the vanilla game's price, and I just can't really afford that right now

So just don't use it? The game is perfectly playable without it.

Yeah I never used VATS...didn't really hamper the experience at all. That can safely be ignored (hope I'm actually right this time..).

I was hoping that it'd be something that let me bypass the stupid dice roll system is all. But it's possibly worse.

Man I don't know anymore, I was ready to let myself get convinced but even for a measly price I fear I'd get frustrated by such a combat system.

The combat system without VATS is that you shoot at guys or hit them with things and they die. It's no different from Borderlands.

Now I'm confused.... seems to directly contradict what has been said prior.

Uh no, Fallout 3's FPS combat is far, far inferior to Borderlands's; guns have no real kick or weight to them what-so-ever and enemies require little-to-no ammo management. Braindead A.I. doesn't help matters.

I'd still take New Vegas over Borderlands because cell-shading gives me a headache but, eh, Borderlands has unquestionally superior combat.

Welp. Bought. I'm even more confused but whatever. It's the price of a coffee, so I might as well try it and see what it's like I guess.

....In three days, probably, since I'll be gone for the week-end.

If nothing else, New Vegas has one of the most impressive voice casts ever assembled for a game... excepting Matthew Perry of course .

Dunno who Perry is, but that is indeed an impressive cast! No Templeman makes me sad though.

...you've never watched/been subjected to FRIENDS? I envy you. Thankfully, Perry has a very small (albeit important) role in the game, so you won't have to hear him much. Zachary Levi, Felicia Day and Danny Treyo are all party members and each turns in a fantastic performance.

can someone just please gift her New Vegas so she can play it herself.

EDIT: Oh you bought it, good. PLAY IT FOR YOURSELF!

Are you incapable of reading two words into my posts?

I'm going to bed.

Man, who gives a shit about the voice acting in New Vegas? I pretty much always read the dialog on the screen and then hit the space bar to skip through the slow-ass audio. The real problem with the game is that the challenge basically falls off a cliff about 4-5 hours in, and the game gets very, VERY same-y before you reach the end of the massive main quest. Some of the DLC is much much better in that regard. Old World Blues in particular was tons of fun and just about the right length.

Yeah, I need to get back and actually play the damn DLC. Also, said crusing-through-the-later-sections was brought to an abrupt halt for me when

Then you missed out on fantastic voice direction/acting that contributed to the game in ways mere reading simply couldn't. And Michael Dorn. Don't forget about Michael Dorn.

"Yah, could I BE any more of a house?!" Perry is certainly no John Goodman in the three disc game of Rage.

Last of Us confirmed for good, I dig it. Am I'm not really an Uncharted fan at all, the gameplay in this is way better.

That's because, as I said, the information Diamhea told you is exactly incorrect. There are RPG-ish stats behind how much damage you do, like how good the gun is (a busted-ass rusty musket isn't gonna be as good as a pristine Barrett .50 cal rifle), whether you've upgraded it, etc. along with your character stats and perks that affect gun performance, same as in Borderlands. In other words, if you put zero points at all into explosives and focus on energy weapons, you're not going to be able to totally wreck dudes with a rocket launcher compared to a laser carbine or something even though the rocket launcher is a rocket launcher. So...same as Borderlands. The only time dice rolls come into play in terms of if you'll hit something or not is when you use VATS, which is a totally optional RTWP sort of system that you can build for or not.

I agree with darkeningday that the general gunplay doesn't feel as smooth and natural as in Borderlands, but mechanically the games play similar combat-wise (other than the optional VATS system that I mentioned). Then of course Fallout has things like NPC's and dialogue and choices and different approaches to solving problems and whatnot. Oh, and there are actual melee weapons, so there's more melee variety than just default character attacks or pistol whips or whatever like in Borderlands.

Eh, whatever, just play the damn thing!

Can we stop reiterating the fact that I never research before I post shit and move on....please!

Man, Friends is dope. Matthew Perry can be in all my media if he wants. That being said, I'd say the majority of the voice acting was fucking terrible, while some of it was really good. I usually skip a lot of the side quest dialogue as a lot of it is boring, but I usually try to listen to it as it helps with immersion.

Morrigan, I totally get why you have such an aversion to "dice roll" RPGs, but I happen to love them. My love of cRPGs comes from a tabletop RPG background, I guess you were never a big role player?

Anywho, the real draw to newer Fallout (especially New Vegas) is the exploration, environments and roleplaying aspects. The combat is sorta secondary. Like fsm said, the difficulty drops off pretty quickly. My current character is level 29, a silver tongued gunslinger who can talk or shoot his way out of any situation, but is not very good at sneaking/hacking/repair stuff. He's been able to blast his way out of any problem since lever 20 or so without much issue. I find myself using my massive stock of jets and med-x simply to use it up. Which reminds me, my guy is addicted to jet... I should take care of that before the whole battle of Hoover Dam thing.

edit: oh and the soundtrack's pretty good too. Once you get sick of the old timey radio, the ambient music is really well executed.

Charming, technophobe gunslinger addicted to one of the cheapest drugs you can find. Note to self: next time I have to write a character for a story, use a Fallout build as a template. Should make for interesting ideas.

On another note, Unturned is a pretty fun alternative for those of us whose computer would self-destruct tryinng to run DayZ. Still unfinished, but it's getting there and it has been pretty fun so far.

Risen 1 is $2.49 on Steam. People should buy it, play it, then tell me how shitty my taste in games must be since I consider it to be one of my favorites of all time.

Considering half of New Vegas just reuses old Fallout 1-2 music?

For the best. They better bring Mark Morgan back for any sequel coming up, I thought Fallout 3's music was awful. Thank goodness for mods... I put Fallout 1-2 music in that one as well and it does wonders.

I also finished up The Last of Us tonight (PS4). It was really addicting and awesome. I wouldn't put it above Bioshock Infinite (my roommate always compares the two since they came out the same year, and the parallels to Ellie and Elizabeth game design wise are interesting). But yeah pretty damn good, and again I'm not huge on Uncharted or even zombie stuff in general. The melee combat was brutal and reminded me of Condemned more than anything... it's almost disturbing witnessing how much of a monster Joel is himself. But, can't blame him.

And on a final note there, I absolutely loved the ending. Really did not see that coming at all and I'm glad it was not cliche' and they didn't take the easy route.

I don't think people need to play anything more to tell you about your shitty taste...

To be fair, Risen 1 (on PC) is a legit good game and probably the highlight of Piranha Bytes' more reputable catalogue (though most would say Gothic 2, which is certainly on-par). I can't vouch for darkening's taste in general, but he is on the mark here. For under $3.00, that's a bloody steal.

I've been playing Skyrim lately on my Xbox 360. Never thought I would get into it much but so far it's been pretty good!

I will never be vindicated for admitting I like Dragon Age. Although, curiously enough, mainly by people who haven't actually played any of the DA games themselves...

Isn't the first Dragon Age widely praised, though? Can't imagine you'd get much flak for that. The second game perhaps. Not sure what reputation the new one is building. I haven't played any of 'em myself, but it has never seemed like a particularly controversial franchise to me.

It was, but not here.

Amusingly enough when it first came out, Shutdown could not stop jizzing over it week after week; in fact, he was the whole reason I bought the game in the first place. Later on he not only disowned it but referred to it repeatedly as "dogshit."

Personally, I'd recommend the first game especially since you can find it for pennies these days (was even free for a while not long ago) and it's extremely PC-centric; the RTWP-combat is serviceable, but the real strength of the game is in its fantastic quest design with a borderline insane number of options for literally every quest in the game, and an astonishingly well-realized world that manages to both be a piece of standard Tolkienian genre fiction while also managing subverting many of those tropes without ever approaching bullshit Cabin in the Woods-style "subversion for the sake of subversion" hipsterism. The whole premise of the game lead writer David Gaider set out to make was one which was outwardly cliche and simplistic, but inwardly rich, detailed and unique, subverting conventions only when they would strengthen the narrative. It's a lovely game, and is certainly the highlight of Bioware's games from a writing perspective.

You know, Darkneningday, I believe that I'd be much more prone to taking into account the things you praise if you didn't trash something I like in the process every single time And I don't say that in a petty, "stop hating what I love" kind of way, but it's more like, whenever you speak highly of something, I think "alright, this sounds interesting", and right after that I immediately remember that my standards for quality and just overall taste are massively different from yours.

Call me prejudiced, but that's how I feel.