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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 5:13 am 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Pe ... ark/206474 (additional notes)
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aeternus1990
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 6:41 am 
 

Azmodes wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Pentsign/Cacophonous_March_of_the_Dark/206474 (additional notes)


Repaired.

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yentass
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Joined: Sun Nov 23, 2003 9:28 am
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Location: Israel
PostPosted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 4:25 pm 
 

Snow Listener wrote:
Azmodes wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Arallu/The_Demon_from_the_Ancient_World/74680

Hebrew part in the last song is fucked.

Actually this is a big problem. I managed to recover the lyrics from v1, but the order of the words is totally fucked up in both v1 and v2. The correct lyrics should read (Note that Hebrew is written from right to left)
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But when I copy and paste, since the default writing order in MA is left-to-right, the words are reversed! Look at the first line. In MA, the leftmost words are פורצים צבאות (incorrect), which should be the rightmost two words (correct).

The words are properly arranged (gave it a tiny aftertouch to reflect the arrangement of lines of the translation).
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MorbidEngel
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 11:18 pm 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Fea ... ion/127307 (alternate spelling)

Posting for someone more versed in Russian.
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Fulgurius
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Location: Ukraine
PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 7:35 am 
 

MorbidEngel wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Fear_Corporation/127307 (alternate spelling)

Posting for someone more versed in Russian.

Done.

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Snow Listener
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Joined: Thu Apr 12, 2012 12:13 am
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:12 pm 
 

A simple task for those who have time. Go to advanced search --> search songs, in the lyrics, search *�* (including the asterisks), you will list a list of more than 2000 songs that contain this "placeholder for unknown characters" �. In most cases, the lyrics are in English, and this � is usually the apostrophe (') (most often), or quotation marks ("), or dash (-), or ellipsis (...) and it should be very clear which is which. If someone could take care of this shit, I can focus on more technical recovering of mojibaked lyrics, mostly for bands from Eastern European countries.

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Another equivalent deformation is � (you should search *�* in lyrics). In English lyrics, it is ALMOST ALWAYS the apostrophe ('), which should be quite clear from the context. But in other languages (e.g. Spanish, German), it can be letters with diacritics, so one needs to very careful. If someone could take care of the shit in English lyrics, that will be great.


Last edited by Snow Listener on Sun Jan 19, 2014 10:46 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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TadakatsuH0nda
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Joined: Wed Jun 23, 2010 3:37 am
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Location: Canada
PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 4:42 am 
 

Snow Listener wrote:
A simple task for those who have time. Go to advanced search --> search songs, in the lyrics, search *�* (including the asterisks), you will list a list of more than 2000 songs that contain this "placeholder for unknown characters" �. In most cases, the lyrics are in English, and this � is usually the apostrophe (') (most often), or quotation marks ("), or dash (-), and it should be very clear which is which. If someone could take care of this shit, I can focus on more technical recovering of mojibaked lyrics, mostly for bands from Eastern European countries.


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insAnum
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 1:51 pm 
 

MalignantThrone wrote:
aeternus1990 wrote:
[*]"Then" is always a conjunction - leave it as lowercase.
[*]"Than" is always a preposition - leave it as lowercase.[/list]

This is an old post, but applies to what I'm doing right now. I'm a little confused, but I want to get this right. Bear with me. Another post made 5 days ahead of yours (viewtopic.php?f=17&t=93525) refers to this as the guideline:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia ... ion_titles

In it are the rules for what not to capitalize:
"- Short coordinating conjunctions (and, but, or, nor; also for, yet, so when used as conjunctions)" - "then" is not mentioned in this list, and I have a reason to believe this is the full list of conjunctions, as it doesn't say "etc." the way it does with the list of prepositions below it.

I didn't go through the whole list of words in your post, but at least "than" can be used both as a preposition and conjunction, so it shouldn't be in lowercase every time.

I just want to make sure we're all on the same page here, and not giving out contradictory info to people. I found your post via the search, and other people might too. This means other people might start to follow these rules, although I think the post by Morrigan (link above) is the "official" one.

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MutantClannfear
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 7:26 pm 
 

(I'm the same guy you're replying to, under a different account.) I reserve the right to be wrong (I noticed back then I said "but" is never capitalized, but if you use it as an adverb meaning "only" it is - e.g. "He Was But a Child"), so I'd defer to Wiki's guidelines for now unless you can find a source that directly addresses the definition of a "short conjunction". I must admit, though, that I thought the capitalization guidelines for conjunctions were the same as those for prepositions, i.e. only capitalize the ones with <4 letters, and a word like "than" or "then" being capitalized would look strange to me.
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insAnum
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:54 am 
 

MutantClannfear wrote:
I must admit, though, that I thought the capitalization guidelines for conjunctions were the same as those for prepositions, i.e. only capitalize the ones with <4 letters

This is exactly what I thought too. I still have to remind myself of it every now and then, as I sometimes have no idea what's a preposition and what's not, until I look it up from Wiktionary. Yesterday I looked up a list of all the English prepositions, and it had words such as "amid" that (to my surprise) should also be in lowercase. The archives are just full of surprises when you get deep enough into it.

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false_icon
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 3:03 pm 
 

A few more mojibakes in artist names:

czech
http://www.metal-archives.com/artists/L ... 8Fa/293357

japanese
http://www.metal-archives.com/artists/H ... %A3/202955
http://www.metal-archives.com/artists/J ... BDq/399475

belarusian
http://www.metal-archives.com/artists/A ... aja/142474 (pretty sure there's no ñ in belarusian language)
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MutantClannfear
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 3:18 pm 
 

The one for the goulash-eating neo-Soviet despots is now fixed beyond a reasonable doubt.
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aeternus1990
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 3:34 pm 
 

false_icon wrote:
A few more mojibakes in artist names:

belarusian
http://www.metal-archives.com/artists/A ... aja/142474 (pretty sure there's no ñ in belarusian language)


Fixed.

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mjollnir
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:59 pm 
 

Somebody reported that the below artist had died. The band's facebook page does not say anything about it and the person in question has submitted a report to say he is very much alive. Can this be taken care of?

http://www.metal-archives.com/artists/Mark_Sugar/270519
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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 12:12 am 
 

mjollnir wrote:
Somebody reported that the below artist had died. The band's facebook page does not say anything about it and the person in question has submitted a report to say he is very much alive. Can this be taken care of?

http://www.metal-archives.com/artists/Mark_Sugar/270519


Wrong thread mjollny. I resurrected him, if anything because there is a significant amount of doubt cast on the validity of the original report, certainly not enough to warrant the status now. Maybe some proof will surface.
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mjollnir
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 12:19 am 
 

Oops. My bad. Carry on with your regularly scheduled programing. ;)
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 4:22 am 
 

For the record, I demoted the user who added that. He already had a history of sloppy edits (including guessing people's date of death, it would seem...).
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theunrelentingattack
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 4:47 am 
 

That's such a weird thing to put in randomly. And I can't find any false news about it either. On the other hand, it only took like a day to get back to the artist that he was dead. MA's got some nice visibility!
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Snow Listener
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:29 am 
 

false_icon wrote:


Fixed. Also fixed the two related Japanese bands. About the Belarusian name, in the artist page, it says the real name is Анастасия Черпинская, then it should be Cherpinskaya.

I feel disappointed to see that the mojibaked Japanese names were added by experienced users. These names were obviously wrong. No one will use a name like Žá—Ñ’B–ç (this is 若林達也 encoded with Shift-JIS, wrongly decoded with Window-1252). When the users do not know how to recover them, they should just leave it. After all, what good does it have to collect a bunch of gibberish, meaningless strings?

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Derigin
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 1:02 am 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/report/vi ... 3/show/all

As per that report, if someone could please fix the Estonian.

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