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Antioch
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 6:18 pm 
 

Excellent!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 9:38 am 
 

But the Myspace URL on label's page (as its website, not in "links") is not fixed yet.
e.g. http://www.metal-archives.com/labels/Negatorium/22807

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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 11:03 pm 
 

Webmaster notified. Good catch.

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Andre Gaius
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:17 pm 
 

I'd like to make two requests for you guys to add mod warnings.

The guy below works with TV and cinema (and in a strongly christian country btw), so he doesn't want his real name to be disclosed (once I removed his alias and someone added his real name, so I added the alias again). To be removed the alias as real name should be added a mod warning

http://www.metal-archives.com/artists/Lord_Mephyr/91460

And this one just doesn't want his age to be exposed.

http://www.metal-archives.com/artists/M ... sar/283573

I have no screenshot, email or something to prove such requests 'cause they're friends of mine.

Thanx in advance.

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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:34 pm 
 

done

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Torquia
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 11:47 pm 
 

Digipack or digipak? I've seen some moderators writting "digipak" in the Version desc.

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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 11:55 pm 
 

As mentioned in the other versions thread, it is "Digipak." That is the patented nomenclature used for the format. Anybody using "Digipack" should be corrected.

There were actually hundreds, even thousands of these being labeled wrong, but we ran a script to change all instances of "Digipack" to the correct one. There are only a handful of them left, but please change them if you ever run into them, as the flow of incorrectly-entered information is endless.
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Torquia
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 10:16 am 
 

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As mentioned in the other versions thread, it is "Digipak." That is the patented nomenclature used for the format. Anybody using "Digipack" should be corrected.


Ok, I was writting digipack until yesterday!

What about the "Version desc" field, regarding countries? I use to add the country edition there and then the format in the additional notes: digipak, slipcase, coloured vinyl...

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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 12:58 pm 
 

You seem to be doing everything fine (please capitalize each term separated by commas though) except!

DO NOT add the country tag by default. ONLY do this in two instances:

1. To separate two otherwise identical versions only differentiated by region

2. Japanese pressings. Always add "Japan" because it is important to separate these due to consistent differences

Many are copying verbatim from Discogs, and I admit to adding the country tags by default at first as well, but we quickly phased that out when we (or at least I) realized that there isn't much accountability on Discogs' part in this regard. People just add multiples of the same version, and oftentimes just add the country they are from because that is where they bought the album and figure that makes a difference. Okay great... but many times it is the same version, same cat # and everything but you will see a half-dozen entries for an album all with different countries - but to us it is just one single version.

We need to stop doing this, as it is redundant to put "Mexico" in every Scarecrow Records release, for example. Actually, the fact that not everyone is adding the country field is adding more imbalance than it is worth. Just toss the whole thing save for the exceptions mentioned.
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MasterOfSin
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 12:14 pm 
 

Hi,
A tag "Not to be confused with:" can redirect to band that isn't on Metal-Archives?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 12:16 pm 
 

Yes, but only if the band is from the same country. You can also link to the band's website in the name, but that's optional.

example 1
example 2
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 12:20 pm 
 

Ok,
I undertsand, i saw this one http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Continuum/78832 redirecting to a Facebook of another band isn't on MA and seems strange to me.

Ok, Thanks
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MasterOfSin
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 3:36 am 
 

Hi,
Isn't posible to add lineup to a compilation album?
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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 3:55 am 
 

Nope, feel free to detail it in the additional notes for the time being, we are possibly looking into a revision of this section (for obvious reasons).
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Antioch
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 3:55 pm 
 

Only yesterday did I actually know that such entries - live album/video - were to be combined.

E.g. Scorpions

World Wide Live Live album
World Wide Live Video
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MTV Unplugged in Athens Live album
MTV Unplugged in Athens Video

Or am I wrong here? Not quite sure to be honest. Diamhea?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 11:56 pm 
 

Hey, would this !T.O.O.H.! thing Z terária do kolumbária be considered a release that could be added to the database? It was a 2004 demo unreleased by the band, but they've posted links to it as a Mediafire download, and it has a solidified tracklist. The download link no longer works, though. Here's a Discogs entry on it, which was the only way I was able to ascertain the titles of the tracks (since I only found the links after they were already dead - I can't remember how I actually got the files): http://www.discogs.com/TOOH-Z-Ter%C3%A1 ... se/6665953 I figured it was an ambiguous-enough case to justify asking.

EDIT: Right, this Facebook post has a link to a working download: https://www.facebook.com/tooh.info/post ... 3082639303
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 8:23 pm 
 

That's a valid release.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 10:33 pm 
 

Alrighty, I went ahead and added it. Thanks. :)
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:47 am 
 

In the Related links section, wich is the difference between Homepage and Offical Website?
Usually i put the website of the band as Homepage and the link type as official, in the case of bands wich i should use?

And when we find a link that redirects to nothing and there's no new link, we just erase it?
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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 11:16 am 
 

Either one is fine, up to your personal preference.

If you find a dead homepage link, at least try to recover it using wayback machine. That is why we have that separate autofill option for the links tab that says "Official site @ archive.org"
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 3:14 pm 
 

Diamhea wrote:
"Official site @ archive.org"


How does that actually work?



Personally I'd use "Homepage" for a page that (re)directs to various social media websites yet contains no sub-links, thus no media or info (images, mp3s, videos, tour dates, etc.). There's quite a lot of them these days.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 6:36 pm 
 

MasterOfSin, Cast Iron Music isn't a label, man. Thought I'd make it clear, lest you should add it again. It's just a manufacturing/production company, but not a label. The CD was released independently.
https://www.facebook.com/Semsoriun/phot ... =1&theater
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 7:18 pm 
 

Antioch wrote:
Diamhea wrote:
"Official site @ archive.org"


How does that actually work?

http://archive.org/web/web.php
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 7:22 pm 
 

Diamhea wrote:
That is why we have that separate autofill option for the links tab that says "Official site @ archive.org"

Personally, I prefer using "Old Site @ Archive.org" so it doesn't look weird seeing a current/different site in the links list of "Homepage" for entities that're still active and have new domains. Seeing one "live" homepage listed beside one "archived" homepage kinda gives the impression they're two different versions of what's ultimately the same content.

Also, it's good practice to include the month and year in brackets after the archived link's name to inform the reader when the last capture was. Just so they can get a quick impression of how old the material in question is. E.g.
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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 11:26 am 
 

That's a good idea to add the month/year. I'll start doing that

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:34 am 
 

If an intro isn't exactly instrumental, yet contains no lyrics, do we mark it as such?
E.g.
http://lucreciacz.bandcamp.com/album/prisoner
http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Lu ... ner/246353
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In this case, yes.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 1:44 pm 
 

For Russian speakers or anyone who can use the internet better than I can. "Udarnyja". What kind of instrument is that? I'm assuming "drums" but then that's "barabany". Anyone?

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 1:53 pm 
 

It's actually Belarusian, and appears to mean "drums/percussion."

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 1:57 pm 
 

Percussion!! That's it. Well, Malediktum has already changed it. For a second I thought it could be some kind of a drum sequencer.
@Az: Thanks for the tip.

Thought I'd try it =P
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Is there a crucial difference between https and http links? Does it matter which one's used?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 12:36 pm 
 

Not sure this is the right thread, but hey.

Sidinei Falcão (a.k.a. Sidinei "Grim" Falcão, Sid)
Brazil Putrid Semen, Eternal Sacrifice, Disrupt Christ, Keter, etc.
http://www.metal-archives.com/artists/S ... A3o/294456
Grim Melin (Sidinei Falcão Almeida)
Brazil Blessed in Fire, Arkhôn Tôn Daimoniôn, Eternal Sacrifice, Aborym
http://www.metal-archives.com/artists/Grim_Melin/230981

Both have the same name and nickname "Grim". Should they be merged or are they really two different people? Anyone?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:36 pm 
 

Hungarian artists tend to write their last name first. Not all but most.
Please make sure you switch the order when applicable. It's not hard to recognize which one's a given name and which one's a surname.
E.g. http://www.metal-archives.com/artists/K ... A1n/470163
and a thousand more.
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Practise has been *first name surname* for the artist entry and *surname first name* for the real/full name field (compare Cyrillic names).
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Antioch wrote:
Not sure this is the right thread, but hey.

Sidinei Falcão (a.k.a. Sidinei "Grim" Falcão, Sid)
Brazil Putrid Semen, Eternal Sacrifice, Disrupt Christ, Keter, etc.
http://www.metal-archives.com/artists/S ... A3o/294456
Grim Melin (Sidinei Falcão Almeida)
Brazil Blessed in Fire, Arkhôn Tôn Daimoniôn, Eternal Sacrifice, Aborym
http://www.metal-archives.com/artists/Grim_Melin/230981

Both have the same name and nickname "Grim". Should they be merged or are they really two different people? Anyone?


Duplicate entry for sure.

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Andre Gaius wrote:
Duplicate entry for sure.


Any solid proof? Not sure whether mods are interested in tackling this one.
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I noticed that the entry for EMI-Odeon label was deleted. Surely you wanted to avoid all the filial branchs of this multinational. But in this case, the origins of the label goes back to the 60s, when Odeon and EMI merged, so it was not a simply domestic filial. They have releases from a lot of catalogues, not only from EMI. I doubt that will be correct, for example, to add the original label (Harvest, Purple Records, etc.) when the album was actually released by EMI-Odeon. Those mentioned labels have not released overseas some of their releases but labels like EMI-Odeon.

Source: http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMI

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Antioch wrote:
Andre Gaius wrote:
Duplicate entry for sure.


Any solid proof? Not sure whether mods are interested in tackling this one.

Same name, same alias, same state, same city, "both" involved in the same band (Eternal Sacrifice)...

His facebook profile if someone wants to confirm:

https://www.facebook.com/sidineifalcao

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^Merged them.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 6:50 pm 
 

So, 80's albums by the Soviet Russian band Облачный Край were originally released on something like this:
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Which format should I choose? :p

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