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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:27 pm 
 

I discovered Blood Axis yesterday which I was told is Martial Industrial/Neofolk..

I am not familiar with this style but it is pretty cool.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 4:01 pm 
 

droneriot wrote:
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Anyway, can someone recommend some neofolk like Forseti? Very melancholic, without any industrial/martial influences, using only acoustic guitars and traditional instruments like flutes and violins.

I'm assuming you know the second Ulver album and Empyrium's "Where at Night the Wood Grouse Plays"? Just asking, to be on the safe side.

I replied to this but apparently my post isn't showing, what the hell

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 4:05 pm 
 

I have many rec's no one mentioned.

EDIT/NOTE: Check out the compilation "Whom the Moon a Nightsong Sings", lots of good, relevant bands. Now, back to the rec's...

First, a few Finnish favorites (I'll also note that, yes, everyone and their mother should listen to Tenhi):

Nest

Valkyrend Variete

Taival

Shamaani Duo

Also, Agalloch, with their 2008 output, as well as songs from 2001 are mostly neofolk:

Maybe try some Art of Empathy

Finntroll went neofolk in 2003, for example: Svart Djup

The October Falls albums Marras and Sarastus may be of interest...

And finally, a band that perhaps isn't quite neofolk (listed as dark ambient/gothic on MA), but should definitely be ear-pleasing to the neofolk crowd - I give you the wonders of Öröm [I suggest listening right to the end on that one, it really builds beautifully].
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 4:19 pm 
 

Marag wrote:
Anyway, can someone recommend some neofolk like Forseti? Very melancholic, without any industrial/martial influences, using only acoustic guitars and traditional instruments like flutes and violins.


Shot in the dark here, but maybe The Soil Bleeds Black's Quintessence? If you don't mind a bit of medieval influence (nothing over the top or anything). One of my favourite neofolk albums, utilization of traditional instruments is plentiful, and a nice blend of male and female vocals.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7UaNdL5Jxs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exsS83xzbQc

Also, was only a matter of time before I name dropped these guys in this thread. Despite only having one album I could ever really get into, they're a definite favourite of mine when it comes to neofolk. I'm pretty sure one of the Riddick brothers' 1390572 side projects is in a similar vein to Quintessence but the name escapes me.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 11:17 pm 
 

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Especially that last piano music album.

:lol: At least he's trying something new with each album. But damn, that was awful.
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Here's my attempt at an introduction post for those new to neo-folk. Neo-folk emerged in the early 1980's as a musical genre blending traditional folk/singer-songwriter style acoustic music with the then new industrial and post-punk movements. Lyrically, it tends to focus on Europe (its history, its culture and perceived decline and fall of European culture), history, war, and religion. Imagery wise, both in terms of album art and live aesthetics, neo-folk bands often feature militant imagery, or classical European style sculpture and architecture, though this is not always the case. Other bands tend to go in a more nature and Germano-Norse pagan inspired direction. In both cases an adoration of European ideas and aesthetics is the overall theme. Fascistic imagery and themes are also fairly common. Though there are a number of modern neo-folk bands that eschew the militant imagery and lyrics.

Death in June is generally seen as the first band to play neo-folk, with Current 93 and Sol Invictus following shortly after. Members of all 3 bands collaborated with each other throughout the 80's and early 90's.

Here, then, is my list of albums to check out for those new to the genre:
Death in June - The Guilty Have No Past
Death in June - Brown Book
Death in June - The Wall of Sacrifice
Death in June - But, What Ends When The Symbols Shatter
Death in June - Rose Clouds of Holocaust
Current 93 - Thunder Perfect Mind
Sol Invictus - Sol Veritas Lux
Sol Invictus - Death of the West
Sol Invictus - In A Garden Green
Rome - Flowers From Exile
Of The Wand And The Moon - Nighttime Nightryhmes
Blood Axis - Blot: Sacrifice in Sweden
Sixth Comm - Content With Blood

I do love Death in June's Nada album as well, but I would say it's not the best starting place. It's quite a mixed bag musically, especially with the electronic goth dance songs, so I don't think it's a good introduction to the genre as those tracks are certainly not typical of neo-folk!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 4:45 pm 
 

got to quote myself to give you guys a "chance" to look if you can help me out with this request. Seems like it drowned a bit in the beginning discussion of what neofolk is about. However as this thread is also about martial ind./military pop, maybe someone knows something which suits this:

grauer_mausling wrote:
on a sidenote: One of the reasons I kind of turned my back ((apart from those bands I already knew) few years ago on newer acts I discovered in the martial ind. genre was the fact that most acts just were plodding along. This kind of brooding, ample ladden atmosphere was just too boring for me. I just need a pop-structure and not 14 minute long songs which lead nowhere. A few bands like Triarii stuck positvely out as they (he) had shorter songs with actual repeating melodies, choruses etc.

...and while we're at it - I could need some recs myself ;) I'm looking for stuff like Derniere Volonte (of course I know In The Nursery). Not like their very old stuff but in the vein of their "Les Blessures De L'Ombre" and later albums. Bascially military pop per definition so to say ;) Synth-ladden, strong "marching" drum-beat and soothing vocals and (important) an actual song structure with reocccuring choruses or certain melodic lines.


In addition here are some links to check out some songs of DV in said style to give you a better idea what I'm looking for:
http://soundcloud.com/dieguedeza/derni- ... a-promesse
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x81uy1 ... -lau_music
http://soundcloud.com/dieguedeza/derni-re-volont-ami
http://www.amazon.com/Les-Orages-du-Crime/dp/B001A9XTLW (very short sample unfortunately)
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:48 pm 
 

@grauer_mausling:

You may know Puissance's latest album? Straightforward military pop, rather orchestral film-scorish synths, definite focus on choruses.
Sample: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_PEM6Fwgb0

Also, this might not be quite what you're after, but have you heard Weihan's Symphonies of Divination? I haven't listened to them as much as I should have to make a certain rec here, but they seem similar to what you're after.
Sample: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEU_L9q8sYs
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:07 pm 
 

grauer_mausling, are there any other bands you can compare what you'd like to? I don't know Deniere Volonte very well at all because the language of their lyrics bothers the hell out of me, only listened to a small handful of songs once and had to turn it off immediately. Such a terrible language.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 1:19 pm 
 

KerberosOfHades wrote:
@grauer_mausling:

You may know Puissance's latest album? Straightforward military pop, rather orchestral film-scorish synths, definite focus on choruses.
Sample: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_PEM6Fwgb0

Also, this might not be quite what you're after, but have you heard Weihan's Symphonies of Divination? I haven't listened to them as much as I should have to make a certain rec here, but they seem similar to what you're after.
Sample: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEU_L9q8sYs


Yes, I do know Puissance. However I've not listened to them for some years and think I should revive them. Thanks for the reminder. Weihan is unknown to me and I will give them a try in the next minutes. Thanks.

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grauer_mausling, are there any other bands you can compare what you'd like to? I don't know Deniere Volonte very well at all because the language of their lyrics bothers the hell out of me, only listened to a small handful of songs once and had to turn it off immediately. Such a terrible language.



Hmm, I can't really compare them with any others that good. Maybe think of early 80s synth pop with a military feel (esp. in the drum section section) and atmosphere to it. Some kind of OMD, Erasue as if played by a troop of the Fremdenlegion, haha ;)
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Why do most neo-folk bands have such huge discographies. I'm looking for neo-folk bands with a relatively smaller discography. I don't want any industrial element though. Extended use of violin, mandolin and accordion would be a plus. I love Agalloch's The White, last two Empyrium albums and :Of the Wand and the Moon:. I don't like Tenhi though.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 5:08 pm 
 

@u_sir:

I recced them somewhere at the beginning of this thread - Neun Welten. They only have two albums and two EPs (from which one contains only demo material for one of the full albums). "Destrunken" is a quite fine piece of neo/pagan/whatever folk and chances are goo you might like them due to liking Empyrium...

Also Solblot is really, really good and not unequal to OTWATM. They only have a 3-song 7" and just this year put out a full length called "För Mig Finns Ingen Väg Från Hemmets Dörr". Btw - Kim of OTWATM is appearing as a guest musician on it... some sparse use of violins are to be found, too...

Furthermore Forseti (3 full lengths, I guess?) could be sth for you. Very calm, and soothing, mainly acoustic guitar driven.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 11:59 am 
 

u_sir_r_a_faggot wrote:
Why do most neo-folk bands have such huge discographies. I'm looking for neo-folk bands with a relatively smaller discography. I don't want any industrial element though. Extended use of violin, mandolin and accordion would be a plus. I love Agalloch's The White, last two Empyrium albums and :Of the Wand and the Moon:. I don't like Tenhi though.


You may or may not know them already, but I suggest Sonne Hagal. Very melancholic neofolk, and there is quite a bit of violin, accordion and other folk instruments. They have ten releases altogether, which isn't "small" but not nearly as big as some other bands.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:26 pm 
 

droneriot wrote:
LokiGoddess wrote:
Especially that last piano music album.

:lol: At least he's trying something new with each album. But damn, that was awful.

:(
I liked it, a lot actually.

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I was wondering if you guys know of any neofolk albums that focus on electric guitars instead of acoustic? I was listening to a David Tibet interview and he was talking about one of C93's albums that had a focus on electric guitar instead of acoustic, which got me curious.
Also, since I'm pretty new to C93, could I get some rec's of your favorite C93 albums as well? Their discog is massive and I don't feel like picking a bunch of album's at random to try. I already own Thunder Perfect Mind and the Om/C93 split. Thanks in advance!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:19 pm 
 

Grimbeard wrote:
I was wondering if you guys know of any neofolk albums that focus on electric guitars instead of acoustic? I was listening to a David Tibet interview and he was talking about one of C93's albums that had a focus on electric guitar instead of acoustic, which got me curious.
Also, since I'm pretty new to C93, could I get some rec's of your favorite C93 albums as well? Their discog is massive and I don't feel like picking a bunch of album's at random to try. I already own Thunder Perfect Mind and the Om/C93 split. Thanks in advance!


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Current 93's Horsey works too. Perhaps that's the album Tibet was referring to, since it is primarily based on electric guitar.
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droneriot wrote:
Current 93's Horsey works too. Perhaps that's the album Tibet was referring to, since it is primarily based on electric guitar.


Oh my God, that is perfect! Thank's a lot! David Tibet didn't really mention which album he was referring to in that interview. Songs from that album sound great though. Loving the Lucifer over London tracks too.
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I need something like Death in June's "The Guilty Have No Pride", I've already heard the band's other early releases. Love the bass in TGHNP.
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Have you heard Above the Ruins, the band Tony Wakeford formed after leaving Di6/before forming Sol Invictus?
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Z0MBIE wrote:
I need something like Death in June's "The Guilty Have No Pride", I've already heard the band's other early releases. Love the bass in TGHNP.


You may be interested in Nancy's Place. They're an obscure noisy post-punk/industrial/experimental band from the UK who have released an extensive discography over their 25 year existence. Not many samples to choose from, and their sound varies wildly, but if you like early DiJ you should love them.

http://www.myspace.com/nancy39splace/

http://www.myspace.com/vanitasqoheleth

http://www.nancysplace.net/

You won't find any downloads online, but their material can often be bought cheaply on ebay from one of the band (ebay name darkhawk666). As a starting place I'd recommend the albums "Born In Blood", "Next Time Will Be The First Time", "Owl Erotica" and "1335 Days of Blood".


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All of their recent discography (10 albums) is now available to stream/download on BandCamp. The earlier albums will be added soon:
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:32 pm 
 

Nope! I'll check it out, thanks! I'm not really into that kind of music, just listened to TGHNP today and enjoyed it quite a bit, but didn't know where to go from there, so please keep on recommending!
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Nancy's Place sounds pretty much like TGHNP era Di6, Above the Ruins was alright too, keep 'em coming guys!
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I'm looking for something that would probably fall under the banner of neofolk; simple, sparse, "spooky"-sounding acoustic guitar tunes, kind of like dirgey DSBM/goth riffs played acoustic. Solo or with minimal accompaniment. Nothing too complex, the 1st example below is probably as complex as I want to go. Preferably full albums/EPs, but the odd intro/interlude is fine too.

1st example is the intro to the debut album by USBM band Azrael:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm4_Nm_CXzo

2nd is a track from a strange project called Olga:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbBKgYHNKaU

O genies of the MA forums, fetch me more like these.
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iAm wrote:
I'm looking for a Neofolk band, only instead of European Folk I'd rather it be American. I should go on to say I'm not looking for bands like 16 Horsepower.

I'm actually looking for the opposite: a European 16 Horsepower, if you will. Most neofolk in the Death in June school is too lethargic for me, I'd like something more melodramatic and rousing but still linked to European folk. Current 93 is (sometimes) great, what other bands stray from that dispassionate Di6 sound?

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Can someone point me in the way of some Medieval Neofolk? Preferably on the musical rather than atmospheric side of things, but it doesn't matter much. I'd especially love something with choral sections.

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Ok i am looking for some recomendations for some neofolk in the vein of the more folky sounding blood axis martial

Besides Death in the west what other Sol Invictus albums should i check out?

I like my neo folk very dark and prefer sung vocals( mainly in english as i am not learned in other languages) as opposed to spoken word . any ideas in general?

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ClaymanOnFire wrote:
Can someone point me in the way of some Medieval Neofolk? Preferably on the musical rather than atmospheric side of things, but it doesn't matter much. I'd especially love something with choral sections.


hmm, medieval - try Solanaceae (a project by OTWATM's Kim). Not huge on choirs though. For choirs stuff like Parzival ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parzival_(band) ) might work...
Also L'Effet C'est Moi is highly recommended (somewhere between martial, medieval and neo-class. music).

Oh, and def. try Gea Bold & The Chruch Of Fand. "John Barleycorn Must Die", "Tintagel" and "La Ballade De L'Ankou" should suit your needs perfectly.

edit: the more I think of it - Gae Bolg may possibly be a bit too "weird" and trumept-like sounding... anyway - try them ;)

and perhaps Oda Relicta (Ukraine) could also work
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Can someone recommend me an album by some bands/artists in the vein of Tenhi, Wardruna, Empyrium, etc. Basically, ambient folk music. Doesn't necessarily have to be on MA, just a really good album.
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Any consensus on Der Blutharsch's best non-rock output? I have The Pleasure's Received in Pain and like the medieval neofolk thing that it has going on, but I'm looking for something a bit more martial.

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ThrashingMad wrote:
Any consensus on Der Blutharsch's best non-rock output? I have The Pleasure's Received in Pain and like the medieval neofolk thing that it has going on, but I'm looking for something a bit more martial.


any of the first 3 albums.
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I highly recommend Majdanek Waltz and Ritual Front.

Here's a song by Ritual Front that you may like:

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any of you guys know of some decent worship of LJDLP's "melodic/accessible" stuff (not the noisy sample stuff!)?
I was pretty into the whole martial ind. genre a few years ago so I probably now most of the classic artists. However as I lost
track of it due to lack of interest, maybe there are some new artists of the last 3 or 4 years?

I'm looking for stuff like these songs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJohrNsGCDM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCHexSVMDKI
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ThrashingMad
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:02 am 
 

Have you heard Toroidh? The Testament album has a similar melodic/ambient feel as some of LJDLP's stuff.

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c_zar
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:29 am 
 

Looking for recommendations for grand and driving martial industrial music.

I'm not into projects/bands like Toroidh, Von Thronstahl, Puissance, Death in June, Arditi, Der Blutharsh, etc., and overall I prefer the driving martial industrial or classical martial sounds over the folk and ambient stuff and pop industrial that it is grouped with.

I like every single Triarii album (especially Muse in Arms and Exile), some Argentum, Ante Bellum, Nihil Novi Sub Sole, (new) Kreuszweg Ost, L'Effet C'Est Moit, Across the Rubicon and want grand stuff in this style. Thanks!

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:57 pm 
 

@ c_zar:
Hmm, quite difficult. Sorry, I don't have any recs yet as you already listed many of the top acts (imo). All others coming to my mind are
way to "pseudo ambient" like and just put some war samples here and some drums there.
Ah, but wait, while writing two acts came to my mind - maybe you like Apoptose's "Blutopfer" and "Nordland" as well as
Cold Fusion's "Simmetria"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3vyZiZCj0o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTZh_sqGRMU
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:25 pm 
 

grauer_mausling

Cold Fusion sounds cool--- I ordered the CD. Thanks!

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