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casusluciferi666
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 7:07 pm 
 

I'm looking for some prog (prog rock, prog metal, doesn't matter!) with the most insane rhythms possible, like Meshuggah, Dream Theater, and maybe Opeth or Suffocation. The kind of shit that takes dozens of listens to memorize the patterns.

Things I'm NOT looking for: Deathcore, djent, or anything else "core".

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 7:15 pm 
 

Maybe Deathspell Omega, if you don't mind prog black.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 7:21 pm 
 

Fuck yeah I do, I've heard of them, but I'm glad I heard just how good they are.
As long as its proggy and not core, I'll love it.
Jazz influence would be a plus too, and it would be quite a treat to maybe hear some doom in there.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 7:27 pm 
 

You'll like Disillusion, great prog metal akin to Opeth. You should check In Mourning, Augury and Gojira (you're probably familiar already though). I could continue with a lot of recs but I'm lazy, enjoy this 14 minutes song for now!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 7:33 pm 
 

Disillusion was fucking awesome, and I love Augury and Gojira, but I'll check out In Mourning.
Other shit I dig is gutturals as opposed to high screams (outside of black metal of course).
I'm also a big fan of Enslaved, if that means anything.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 7:40 pm 
 

This aesthetic is pretty common in the Jazz Fusion/Prog Metal hybrids. In example, Exivious: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joUiwaglBmo

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 7:45 pm 
 

Oh, I know about them, as well as Trioscapes and a few others.
Just be warned, I really was underwhelmed by Animals As Leaders and their side projects, especially on AAL's first album.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 7:53 pm 
 

Tech-throom pioneers Confessor pretty much began the rhythm-centric "math metal" thing in my book, if you don't already know them. Kobong was probably the first Meshuggah-influenced band, and as such they take after their pre-djent sound. Early metallic math rock like Breadwinner and Buzzard should work too. Oh, and Blotted Science is obligatory too.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 8:05 pm 
 

You need some Pain Of Salvation.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 8:14 pm 
 

Surprised no one mentioned the ubber technical Spiral Architect album. Really, it's the definition of your request OP.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 11:06 pm 
 

Abigor's Time Is the Sulphur in the Veins of the Saint is one of the most satisfying albums I've heard in terms of rhythmic complexity.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 11:20 pm 
 

You're aware that Meshuggah are basically djent, correct? Would recommending djent bands who clone Meshuggah as much as possible be okay?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 11:50 pm 
 

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You're aware that Meshuggah are basically djent, correct? Would recommending djent bands who clone Meshuggah as much as possible be okay?



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Things I'm NOT looking for: Deathcore, djent, or anything else "core".



I was coming in to also meantion Lioncloth who is basically Confessor minus vocals.

And I was really shocked/happy to see some Breadwinner up in here. Also if you want to branch into that vein also I would recommend the Rescue : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ek5Z1v5IOnQ -vocals will probably kill it for most people. they were one of the first bands I did shows with long long long ago.
some Don Caballero?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2B60EMlp0Q it just layers and layers

some heavier recommendations that still not quite metal
Last of the Juanitas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc4tmlX7vFI

Sweep the Leg Johnny
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXDBDktSRa4

the Mass
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrYt7s70BnE
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:29 am 
 

MalignantThrone wrote:
You're aware that Meshuggah are basically djent, correct? Would recommending djent bands who clone Meshuggah as much as possible be okay?

No, they are not djent.
Djent is deathcore meets Meshuggah ripoff, ie shit.
Don't you dare use such blasphemous words to describe Meshuggah.
I did however like everything else I heard.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:53 am 
 

casusluciferi666 wrote:
MalignantThrone wrote:
You're aware that Meshuggah are basically djent, correct? Would recommending djent bands who clone Meshuggah as much as possible be okay?

No, they are not djent.
Djent is deathcore meets Meshuggah ripoff, ie shit.
Don't you dare use such blasphemous words to describe Meshuggah.
I did however like everything else I heard.


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Check out the new Hateure album for some straight Meshuggah worship.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJKVZkhsmJw

I can't tell if Pathways is tr00 enough for you or not, but they've got plenty of great rhythms and awesome leads to boot. Don't miss out on the sweetness at 2:28.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtnXa1JVFBc
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:54 am 
 

heheheh, dude, Fredrik Thordendal coined the "djent' term and it's obviously the main influence of the genre. Perhaps Meshuggah is not djent itself (that's debatable) but bands like Periphery aren't quite far from their sound. But yeah, it's shit.

"Blasphemous words" :lol: :lol: :lol:
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casusluciferi666
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:20 am 
 

Metantoine wrote:
heheheh, dude, Fredrik Thordendal coined the "djent' term and it's obviously the main influence of the genre. Perhaps Meshuggah is not djent itself (that's debatable) but bands like Periphery aren't quite far from their sound. But yeah, it's shit.

"Blasphemous words" :lol: :lol: :lol:

While yes, they are the main influence on the genre, they are different than the bands that fall under "djent", they're more groove metal oriented and breakdownless, so...
Pathways was pretty cool though, I don't care about "tr00" shit.
If its not core-y, I'll pretty much like it.
I mean I listen to black metal, that's about as talentless as it gets.

EDIT: After listening to all of Pathways' stuff, they're waaaaaay too core.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:00 am 
 

Shubend - Synergism
These guys totally ripped on Meshuggah circa Destroy Erase Improve, but they did it well. Also this was from 2002 so most core bands were busy raping Slaughter of the Soul at the time.

You could also give Keelhaul and Craw a go, both come from a more Noise Rock direction.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OTEoq7rdiA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqKu2Km2v9c
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:53 pm 
 

Defeated Sanity. It's like Suffocation taken to the next level of brutality and technicality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roVBNQc0Sew
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:55 pm 
 

Hayisforhorses wrote:
Shubend - Synergism
These guys totally ripped on Meshuggah circa Destroy Erase Improve, but they did it well. Also this was from 2002 so most core bands were busy raping Slaughter of the Soul at the time.

You could also give Keelhaul and Craw a go, both come from a more Noise Rock direction.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OTEoq7rdiA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqKu2Km2v9c

Really good shit, all of it.
Also I love Defeated Sanity, I just wish they were faster and more prog.
My perfect band would be Suffo/DS brutality and technicality, but with the rhythmically progressive edge of Meshuggah, plus DT style composition and melody, as well as their instrumental duels and solos, along with Gojira/Meshuggah grooves, black metal influence, jazz fusion, folk/oriental shit and all types of extreme vocals used (minus core) as well as aggressive cleans.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 4:59 pm 
 

Crowpath is pretty rythmically chaotic, mainly due to the drummer's extremely hyperactive style: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UN7_T0ZzVA

They broke up a few years back and formed Tellusian which is the same style with the craziness scaled back a bit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huO1qoiM3Lg

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:10 am 
 

I must say Disillusion and Tellusian was pretty damn interesting, thanks to the people who recommended them!

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:05 am 
 

693 wrote:
I must say Disillusion and Tellusian was pretty damn interesting, thanks to the people who recommended them!

Agreed.
Any more jazz fusion out there?
I really dig this new band Trioscapes, as well as Panzerballet, Mestis, and T.R.A.M.
AAL is iffy though, they're more just metal with a jazzy bit thrown in every once in a while.

EDIT: Of course Exivious too.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:56 pm 
 

Well Coprofago is pretty much Meshuggah with great tasteful jazz sections worked in so maybe try that out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDF-DBRq5Xw

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 4:09 am 
 

Inspector_Satan wrote:
Well Coprofago is pretty much Meshuggah with great tasteful jazz sections worked in so maybe try that out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDF-DBRq5Xw

Pretty sweet.
Anything Suffo styled?
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